Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Austerity in UK will help Private Sector, including health care...education, damn

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:43 AM
Original message
Austerity in UK will help Private Sector, including health care...education, damn
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 10:25 AM by maryf
Oceania is well on its way to becoming a reality, must have the same hc for everyone, right?? Private HC for the UK!!! ooohooo!! :sarcasm:
These people better start the fight now...

Austerity Drive Will Hand Billions to Private Sector
Outsourcing firms are preparing for bonanza of contracts to provide everything from binmen to back office bureaucrats

by Robert Booth, Richard Wachman and Jeevan Vasagar

A government efficiency drive aimed at slashing spending in town halls and boosting productivity in the health service is likely to deliver billions of pounds of new business for private companies, the Guardian has learned.

<snip>

Andy Burnham, the shadow health secretary, said: "Some private operators are going to have a field day, making a fortune from a system which will offer less public accountability." The appetite for outsourcing is so great that private firms are even vying to help set the curriculum and educational ethos of academy schools.


<snip>

The US health giants Humana, UnitedHealth, Aetna and MCCI are all understood to be interested in healthcare contracts that could flow from a new commissioning system in which GPs may be given the power to buy in services from any health group or hospital that is properly accredited. Minnesota-based UnitedHealth has already become a key adviser to primary care trusts and is running two GP practices in Derbyshire and three in London.

<snip>
"Private health already has a small role in the NHS , but we don't want it to grow," said Karen Jennings a spokeswoman for Unison, the public services union. "The danger is that private companies will become so powerful that they will be able to determine what services are provided and how much they charge."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/16/austerity-drive-billions-private-sector

the private companies have to be fought in England as here...

editted to fix link...read the whole thing folks!! (thanks to a favorite spectre)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:45 AM
Response to Original message
1. The Global Shock Doctrine is in full effect......
nt


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. "The private sector likes the clarity it has seen from the new government,"
said James Hulme, spokesman for the New Local Government Network.

Gives me major chills...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:05 AM
Response to Original message
3. We've had private healthcare companies here
since at least the '70's. AMI was the first from memory. So its nothing new. OK for some particularly those who want individual room accomodation. Personally I'd rather have others to chat too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. This article is about England, of course we've had private health care
but this refers to our health insurance companies going for the UK's National Health Plan, and privacy striking all the public sector's in England...my garbage collector is private here, education is becoming more and more private here, and we all know about health care. The private sector is scoping out other countries. Please read the whole article at the link! thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I had read it
I'm English and I live here. Some privatisation has been going on for years - particularly under our previous crack pot government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. Gotcha...
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 02:54 PM by maryf
you know more about than I do, but does seem the NHS is under serious attack...problem with text, things get misunderstood! :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bloofer_Lady Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:17 AM
Response to Original message
4. It looks like our corporations now want a big slice of your pie....
....and your government is going to give it to them. Shameful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Thanks I'm in the US...
but my sympathies, concerns, are global. I hate to see all the good public systems in other countries be decimated by the private corporations...a friend of mine is moving to England to get decent health care, hope he doesn't have to move again...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bloofer_Lady Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. Hopefully people will protest in Europe over this.
If they don't speak out they are going to end up just like us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. Have you been following the Greek protests?
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 02:58 PM by maryf
Weekly at least for months...will try to get you some links later...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bloofer_Lady Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. I have seen those on tv.
One thing that the Europeans excel at is protesting. A lot of the people in the US would just sit on their asses and say 'Oh well.'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. Covering their eyes...
...or maybe saying "Oh just wait and see..." How do we get the people out there? How do we get them to see how bad its gotten? Its like the frog in the pot, drop him in already boiling water he hops out; heat him slowly he's cooked...are we done yet? Have we had enough???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:21 AM
Response to Original message
7. This thread should be read for parallels on austerity
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:58 AM
Response to Original message
10. Without free NHS the UK will become the worse dumpster in europe to live n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. This is nothing
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 02:12 PM by dipsydoodle
to do with the NHS being "free". Our NHS has used some private facilities for years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. We don't have a NHS...
Except for Medicare and the VA System, which have been fantastic, of course they are trying to decimate them too...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
11. Not enough money in the US?
Our private companies must now resort to invading others.

K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Never enough money
never enough power...privatization, profit mongering knows no borders...those are just for the peons to keep them from joining together...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:24 PM
Response to Original message
13. k & r
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Wonder if your pirate man will try to "help out"
with the education curriculae over there...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Oh I'm sure.
He's a helper! lol I know I've read articles on charter schools starting in England. There is probably a very short chain of connection, at any rate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Very likely
but not as short as the ones around our necks... :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:07 PM
Response to Original message
21. k
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:53 AM
Response to Original message
24. k&r
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC