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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:30 PM
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What exactly is it that CEOs do that gets them 300 times more pay than their workers?
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 02:38 PM by ck4829
For every dollar you get, the CEO gets 300.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walmart-ceo-pay-hour-workers-year/story?id=11067470

In the 1970's, for every dollar you got, the CEO got 30. Sounds a lot more reasonable. What changed?

Makes you wonder if there is some sort of secret double life behind our CEOs...

Do they go into parallel universes and do things like stopping Bambi's mom from getting shot?
Do they save the Earth from vicious extraterrestrial invaders and sweep exotic aliens off their feet on a daily basis?
Do they go back into the past to save the space-time continuum from threats that would try to disrupt it?

No? Then what do they do to earn that colossal pay?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:32 PM
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1. They make a killer martini, and have excellent golf posture.
each of those is worth $400,000 a piece and $6M worth of stock options.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:28 PM
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21. Destroying the middle class and environment is HARD WORK!
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:35 PM
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2. Cut worker pay to ensure profits
Suck senator dick to ensure contracts (or simply call up contacts, as GWB had to do heading up a company)

They are worth every penny to shareholders, or otherwise, the unjustified expense would not be paid out.

Their pay is a symptom of the system, not some problem coming out of the blue.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:37 PM
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3. That's not 300%
That's 30,000% if I'm doing the math right.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:39 PM
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6. You're right, 300% would simply be 3 times
Typo.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:37 PM
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4. That's not 300%--that's 300 TIMES
Three hundred percent is only three times, as you will see if you enlarge a PDF to 300%.

It would almost Maoist economics if CEOs made only 300% of what the average worker makes.

But anyway, yeah, the gap is outrageous.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:38 PM
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5. That's actually 30000% And the answer is nothing
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:39 PM
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7. Yeah, whoops on my part.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:55 PM
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8. "the answer is nothing"
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 02:56 PM by Oregone
Why would shareholders pay that expense for no reasonable ROI? That goes against the fundamental tenants of capitalism really, and it is the executives who are operating primarily to advanced the capitalistic system (that being, their main job function is to ensure the profits of their shareholders). It seems nonsensical that the expense wasted on these people undermines the very function of their job.

Id assert, there is always a return on this money. Whether the executives know people and enable commerce through those channels, exploit workers, or just reorganize a business, they are always there "doing" something that, on average, results in more revenue than is spent on their pay.

The only exception would simply be if the position is a hand-out to the well-connected son of a rich politician, but mind you, that has a pay back too. Shareholders are not just running a charity
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:11 PM
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12. or they royally fuck up like that Shearson Lehman guy did
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:26 PM
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19. Today's corporations practice anything but capitalism.
Socialize the losses. Maintain obscene bonuses despite the fact the company nearly collapses.

All of this is merely the result of at least 30 years of enabling government to whore itself to big business.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:55 PM
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9. what changed?
money manipulation became a sport..a game. and it;s winner-take-all..
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:47 PM
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16. And only if you are "Too Big To Fail" are you offered a
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 04:49 PM by truedelphi
Winning ticket entry. The American people, who actually gave away Main's Street Money for the Big Boys antics, can never ever receive a winning entry.

Though, mark my words, our Social Security monies will be next.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:07 PM
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10. Bribe the government, oh I mean lobby n/t
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:11 PM
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11. More responsibility.
Har.

Har har.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:15 PM
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13. And Har! n/t
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:20 PM
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14. They lie, deceive, run from responsibility & screw consumers
And destroy the environment, use slave, overwork children, buy officeholders, get huge subsidies among hundreds of other immoral and unethical things. CEOs and executives are mostly overpaid buffoons and con men. In general, the more an executive gets paid the less they deserve it and the more corrupt and immoral they are. If bet the psychological profiles of business leaders are virtually identical to the criminals behind bars in our prison system. Hell I bet thugs on death row are better people than sociopaths like Tony Hayward.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:26 PM
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15. If they did that stuff they wouldn't be CEOs.
They'd be contractors. CEOs contribute by deciding stuff, like a decider.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:49 PM
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17. Blow smoke up each other's asses.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:59 PM
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18. They insure that workers are squeezed to the max.....
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 05:00 PM by blindpig
that the investor/vampires might suck all the more blood from them.

They are debased monsters, serving greater monsters.
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cojoel Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:27 PM
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20. They decide how much everybody makes
and guess who wins out on that deal.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:31 PM
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22. Sorry but the board is responsible for CEO compensation, ask them.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 05:34 PM by Stevenmarc
Obviously they perceive some return on investment.

And that's the problem with modern corporations the CEO is considered an asset while the employees are considered an expense.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 07:10 PM
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23. Appoint their golf buddies to the corporate board... that's what they do.
And those geniuses reliably vote for the CEO's 300X salary.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 07:54 PM
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24. Easy - they find people willing to do the menial jobs at their company for 1/300 of what they make.
Let's see you go out and try to do the same thing.



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