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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:54 AM
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DNC to Free Republic: CEASE AND DESIST!
Edited on Fri May-11-07 08:14 AM by johnfunk
I know, I know -- many of us have been saying it's about f$#@ing time to play hardball with the stooges:
A post by "coffee260" on "Freerepublic.com" today states that this morning, on the "Quinn & Rose" show on XM, co-host Jim Quinn stated that DNC CHJairman Governor Howard Dean had called Gov. Kathleen Sebelius &lquot;around 5:00 a.m. one morning after a tornado had destroyed the town of Greenburg, Kansas and discussed with her what to say["]... The statements quoted above are false and defamatory, are libelous and slanderous... [C]ease and desist from further dissemination of the above-quoted statements or any statements similar in substance and (ii) immediately post a retraction...
Read it all here.

MORE: Looks like these posts are still live on Free Republic, here and here.
MORE MORE! Ha! another -- from Quinn! XM also got hit with a C&D.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:57 AM
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1. This is Hugh!!!!
Series!!!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:57 AM
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2. They are so screwn!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:58 AM
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3. Keep me posted! I'll be in the shower!!!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:58 AM
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4. Silly who would believe that?
--
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:02 AM
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6. Dumb GOPigs would believe it.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:29 AM
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17. Your right and they can vote.
:crazy:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:32 AM
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20. You'd be surprised
a caller to a progressive talk show in Hartford (CT) yesterday started spouting off about Sebelius and how she was getting talking points from Washington DC... so, if it's made it all the way to a small city in New England, it's been pretty widely circulated.

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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:35 AM
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22. Call/email that show's producer with an update...
... I'll bet they rerun yeaterday's turgid call followed by the letter.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:49 AM
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27. Can I debunk some of the caller's other points, though?
The caller also said that kansas had enough national guard and equipment to do the job.

I'm sure the caller had his facts wrong, but I do like to verify facts before submitting a letter, or following up with a phone call.

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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:13 AM
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36. Did you see this?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:16 AM
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37. Yes, and I read the whole thing
But, it does not debunk the Freeper talking point that, while short of equipment overall, the Kansas National Guard had enough equipment to do the job in that town.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:36 AM
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40. No one with an ounce of intelligence or common sense..therefore ALL members of FreeRepublic.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:02 AM
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5. Eh
Free Republic is best ignored. Whoever reads that crap is beyond help anyway.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:02 AM
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7. Looks like somebody tattled to the spocksman
:rofl:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:08 AM
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11. Now, now... don't go casting asparagus.
We just don't know at this point!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:05 AM
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31. casting asparagus??
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:06 AM
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33. Hadn't heard that one yet?
Another in a long, long line of Freep malapropisms.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #33
41. I know... did you look at the picture on the post?
or just read the post title?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:02 AM
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43. LOL I did just read the title.
That is hilarious.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:11 AM
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35. Your (sic) right, that would not be a good
jester! :rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:05 AM
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8. Good! Now go after Faux News, and their lies!
It's about time somebody put this bullshit to rest.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:30 AM
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18. Go after Sean Hannity on Fox.
He was repeating the same lies yesterday on his radio show.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:04 AM
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44. He's more than happy to spew lies, but $1000 says he won't "spew"a correction.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:07 AM
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9. A few lumps
in Jimbo's too much salt/no truth gravy train, eh? Good for Howard.


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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:08 AM
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10. Who Is Jim Quinn???
Spewing all that venom on the "Satellite of Love" to all the 4 people (including mom & the producer) who were tuned in?

So the sin here is that the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee talked with the Democratic Governor of Kansas and discussed the situation that just happened in her state? How dare he! Whose he think he is? Karl Rove?

Hopefully the fine work of Gov. Sebelius and the arrogance and mismanagement of the boooosh regime is being noted by Kansas voters.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:20 AM
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13. Jim Quinn used to be part of the famous - Banana Don and Jim Quinn
morning radio show here in Pittsburgh. Before becoming an esteemed right-wing commentator, he was best known for fart jokes during the rush hour commute. Although the show was cancelled in the late 80's over a sexual harassment suit - who would have guessed.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:30 AM
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19. I knew it! I knew his name was familiar--weren't they on B-94?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:09 AM
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12. The DNC doesn't have much of a case against the website or the poster if
the radio host actually said this. The only fact that the poster is stating is the radio host said something. If the host did, they the poster is within his rights. OTOH, if the host did say this, the host himself would be liable.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:34 AM
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21. Actually, they do...
... once they produce phone records. In fact, I'd wager Joe Sandler already has the phone records in hand.

It's not so much FR as Jim Quinn who is in a heap of trouble.

If you are an XM subscriber, call XM and complain.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:37 AM
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24. It seems to me that they're going after the radio show, not FR
:shrug:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:47 AM
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26. They are going after both!
Golly , I wonder what crack Free Republic legal team member Bry... er, Dean Hinnen would say about that after the Wikipedia debacle?

Oh -- that's right -- he's not a member of Free Republic's legal team!
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 05:19 PM
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55. the threads had titles like "DEAN TOLD SEBELIUS TOLIE" and so on
you actually had to read deep into them to see it was quoting the show, but the headlines were allowed to stand by FR as fact
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:23 AM
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14. The story sounds bogus, but FR has a right to talk about it, if it's out
in the public sphere, which it is. I would certainly hate for us not to be able to speculate that Cheeeeeney is on the DC Madam's List--true or not. (Please let it be true!)
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:24 AM
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15. The Color Commentary Sounds Like Wayne Madsen
Edited on Fri May-11-07 08:27 AM by ribofunk
You have to question the source -- who would be privy to the details of several private conversations between top political figures?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:27 AM
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16. I think that every single time that a statement
such as this is written or spoken thru the media, that is false and slandereous the same should be done.

I know it is annoying to go thru this, time consuming and expensive but it has to be done. They have to know that their slander won't be tolerated. I just wish someone has the balls to do the same to rush limpaugh and glenn beck, adding CNN to the suit. With the lack of investigation and the stuff they give out as news they should be at the top of the list.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:36 AM
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23. K & R
:kick:
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:41 AM
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25. Um, if coffee260 is quoting that Quinn & Rose alleged this, then how the hell is FR responsible?
Edited on Fri May-11-07 08:42 AM by mainegreen
Seems highly irresponsible on the DNC part here. And pointless.
Am I missing something?
Go after the show only.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:52 AM
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28. They are propagating a provable falsehood
Now that they are aware that the DNC is prepared to demonstrate that Quinn's lying lie is a lying lie by a liar, they have every right to have their lawyers tell FR to yank the lying-lie-based lies in the form of posts.

It's not an uncommon practice in potential libel/slander cases.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:58 AM
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29. But they clearly state that this allegation was made by Quinn & Rose.
How is reporting what someone else said, in the context that person Y (and not me) alleged something, libel? I could understand if the poster simply made the allegation himself as opposed to reporting that someone else made the allegation.
It seems like an attempt to suppress news via lawyer, something I never like no matter who is doing it to whom.
:shrug:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:02 AM
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30. Jeez, I've read a lot of things on DU that were potentially libelous and slanderous...
Kind of a slippery slope huh?
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:06 AM
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32. The difference: in this particular case, bank on Dean/DNC having a cut-and-dried case
I bet they have their ducks lined up.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:29 AM
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39. we have intelligent moderator's ,posters,and guys who run this site
i pointed out to the administrators that a person they put in the top ten idiots killed himself and they pulled the story within a few minutes..that`s why we have an alert.
it`s up to those guys to decide but that does`t happen at free republic
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:48 PM
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53. That's kind of what I was thinking.
Are they planning to sue everyone who mentions what was said on the radio program? This seems like a pretty tricky legal task to me.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:07 AM
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34. Quinn?
What a flaming asshat. The guy is the biggest "nobody" in radio.
Hey, Jim, how did you get out of going to Nam?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:22 AM
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38. ever read the list of organizations
that have placed cease and desist? it`s a long one, plus there are sites that they are forbidden to link to.

no one moderates free republic but rimmy`s and his fluffers
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:39 AM
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42. lol!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:13 AM
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45. Slightly off topic -- Photoshop fun with JimRob
Edited on Fri May-11-07 10:15 AM by johnfunk
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:15 AM
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46. so are the freepers trying to say that FEMA was there right after the Tornado
And doing a spot on job????

:wtf:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:17 AM
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47. LOL what morans!!
Sure, a liberal Democratic Governor is going to call up a conservative Republican Senator and confess to an opportunistic attack against the leader of the senators party. Riiight.

When I saw this, I immediately out the whole story in the trash bin."

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:17 AM
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48. Interesting.
So internet defamation can be pursued?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:21 AM
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49. I'm sure the law firm would like to know that FR still
hasn't complied with the requests. It's now after 11 on the East Coast, and their deadline was noon, wasn't it?

LOL,
Julie
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:47 AM
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50. Anyone registered to post at Free Republic should try this...
Edited on Fri May-11-07 10:51 AM by johnfunk
To threads
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1831816/posts
and
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1831454/posts

post

<img alt="Cease and Desist Letter to Freerepublic.com" src="http://www.apj.us/images/TOL20070510frc-and-d.gif" ; > (remove semicolon first)

To thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1831291/posts

post

<img alt="Cease and Desist Letter to XM" src="http://www.apj.us/images/TOL20070510qc-and-d.gif" ; > (remove semicolon first)

If that does not raise a lot of blood pressure on the right, nothing will...
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:57 AM
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51. Delusional FReepers refuse to believe they've been fooled again
To: jsh3180

I like this poster at Hot Airs response

Interesting.

Im willing to believe this until/unless disproven.

Jones Zemkophill on May 10, 2007 at 6:57 PM

47 posted on 05/11/2007 8:17:40 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com )
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

Interestingly, the moderators at FR deleted the HotAir excerpt by proven FReeper "legal team" liar and fraud Bryan Hinnen:
Update: Brownback says no, making it 3 for 3.

Update: The DNC just emailed me two documents, one a letter to XM and the other a letter to Free Republic. In both letters, the DNC denies without equivocation that the conversation between Dean and Sebelius ever took place. Both are C&D notices from the DNCs lawyers.

The statement made by Mr. Quinn is demonstrable, unequivocally, and absolutely false. Governor Dean had no such conversation with Governor Sebelius, ever.

Thats about as flat a denial as one can get, though its interesting that they would resort to C&D notices to combat this story and characterize it as libelous and slanderous and interfering with the DNCs operations and ability to solicit support and raise funds.

Of course, Bryan is being a complete hypocrite because he is a huge fan of "cease and desist" letters, at least when quite clearly hiding behind a sockpuppet identity while trying to intimidate people he disagrees with:
Wikipedia Sockpuppet Theatre -- Page 2
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.apj.us from:
Dean Hinnen

At the following URL address on your website, the following metadata can be found:

http://www.americanpolitics.com/070699deaththreat.html

American Politics Journal

==================================

I am a member of the legal team for Free Republic LLC and FreeRepublic.com. An article by that you have previously reproduced on this page is libelous. You are responsible for reproducing this libel and disseminating it to a much larger audience for many years, and it was removed very recently.

does not display this article on his website. The only place on the Internet where the article might be found is your website.

Let me clarify that while a few parts of the article are true, others are false and defamatory and we will not tolerate further defamation.

If you restore this article or any libelous part of it for public viewing, I will immediately recommend to our clients, Jim Robinson and John Robinson, that we should consider legal remedies against your site for this libel, dating back to the first day it appeared on your website.

Regards -- Dean Hinnen

Dear Dean... or is it Bryan? ...

For a real laugh, read the entire takedown od Bry... er, "Dean" Hinnen here.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:08 PM
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52. "I am a member of the legal team for Free Republic LLC and FreeRepublic.com. "
Possibly the funniest one-liner ever to appear on that sorry excuse for communication!

Deluded self-importance, anyone? :rofl:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 04:51 PM
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54. They will spin this around to make it a political move instead
of a move based on the facts, and inaccurate statements made on this site. This is slander in written form, and the owner is liable... Look for them to scream Partisan Politics though.....
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. They already are...
I'd be interested to hear if Quinn & Rose made any mention of the C&D on their show today. If they got ratf$#@ed by one of their unimpeachable sources, they'd be wise to start counter-ratf$#@peachment.
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