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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:45 AM
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Republicans: "What could happen?"
What will it take for America to learn? Republicans get it WRONG, every damn time. A few examples:

1. Counter-terrorism before 9/11: "Nobody would dare attack us on our own soil! What could happen?"
What they feared instead: "ICBMs from rogue nations."

2. Wasting the surplus on massive tax cuts for the wealthy: "Tax cuts always increase revenues! What could happen?"
What they feared instead: paying down the national debt too quickly.

3. Privatizing Social Security: "Private investments give better returns! What could go wrong?"
What they feared instead: Social Security as "some government program."

4. A mess of an Iraq occupation: "We can take Saddam out in a few weeks and be greeted as liberators! What could go wrong?"
What they feared instead: Terrorist gas station owners.

5. BushCo's outsourced jobs, soaring national debt, economic smoke and mirrors: "We're the wealthiest country in the world. What could happen?"
What they feared instead: John Kerry windsurfing.

6. Bank regulations: "Businesses don't need the government telling them what to do! What could possibly happen to the banks?"
What they feared instead: Big Government bossing the poor banks around.

7. Offshore drilling and oil regulations: "What could happen? There won't be any accidents!! Drill, baby, drill!"
What they feared instead: Barack Obama and Joe Biden replacing two oil men.

Now they don't believe there's anything to worry about regarding global warming, lack of affordable health care, or the massive power of greedy multi-national corporations.

(Besides, if anything DOES happen, they'll just scream at the Big Bad Government.)
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:50 AM
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1. Republicans Wrong Every Time
is common knowledge. Yet the media and the powers that be pretend that is not the case, pretend that they actually have something positive to bring to the table that would promote democracy, fairness, and the betterment of human life.

But that is a goddamned fallacy, they are the spawn of Beelzebub. Every fucking one of them.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:52 AM
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2. They are wrong
So how is it they keep getting elected?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:57 AM
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4. It's an uneducated public
Destroy the public education system and no one can think themselves out of a box.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:11 AM
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5. That's too simple of an answer
The current administration isn't exactly impressing people with its education policies, and the destruction of the public education system continues.

There have to be other reasons, patriotism, religious beliefs, the idea that if you support the corporations that some of the scraps might fall off the table!

I'm beginning to believe that those who support the Republicans, truly want to be a peasant class.

Because kowtowing to the neo-nobility is something that they all do so well.

Just another opinion

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:14 AM
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7. Simple answer?
Who counts the vote?

The vote is the lever which endows one politician over the other.

So, who counts the votes?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:17 AM
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8. I think that you are also correct
I think that many of them believe that one day they will be one of the billionaires and that's why they support them. It's a flawed theory and they don't get it.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:26 AM
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10. 40 Year Preplanned Dumbing Down of Americans...
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 09:30 AM by PJPhreak
Its easier to control a uneducated public than a public armed with Education.

The ongoing Repubby/Corporate meme "Education Breeds Liberalism Dont'cha Know".
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:29 AM
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12. Wedge issues,
Abortion, immigrants, gays.

Finding scapegoats.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:00 AM
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14. Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition
Jost, J. T., Glaser, J., Kruglanski, A. W., & Sulloway, F. J. (2003). Political conservatism as motivated social cognition. Psychological Bulletin, 129(3), 339-375.

System Justification Theory

We have shown above that most traditional personality theories
about the functions of conservative ideology, especially theories of
authoritarianism, dogmatism, and anxiety reduction, stress egodefensive
or ego-justifying aspects of conservatism, that is, the
satisfaction of individual needs for security, obedience, and projection
(e.g., Adorno et al., 1950; Altemeyer, 1981, 1988;
Rokeach, 1960; Wilson, 1973c). Although ego-justifying motives
constitute an important part of the appeal of conservatism, there
are also group-justifying and system-justifying motives that are
satisfied in a particularly efficient manner by right-wing ideologies
(Jost & Banaji, 1994; Jost & Thompson, 2000). Social dominance
theory, for example, stresses the emergence of conservative legitimizing
myths as group-justifying attempts to rationalize the interests
of dominant or high-status group members (Sidanius &
Pratto, 1999). System justification theory focuses on the motivated
tendency for people to do cognitive and ideological work on behalf
of the social system, thereby perpetuating the status quo and
preserving inequality (e.g., Jost, 1995; Jost & Banaji, 1994).

One of the central goals of system justification theory is to
understand how and why people rationalize the existing social
system, especially when their support appears to conflict with
other important motives to maintain or enhance self-esteem and to
maintain or enhance group standing (e.g., Jost & Banaji, 1994; Jost
& Burgess, 2000; Jost & Thompson, 2000). The theory draws
partially on Marxian and feminist theories of dominant ideology
and on sociological theories of legitimization to explain the acceptance
of conservative ideas and practices (Jost, 1995; Jost et al.,
2001). It also draws on ideas from cognitive dissonance theory
(Festinger, 1957) and just world theory (Lerner, 1980) to argue
that people are motivated to perceive existing social arrangements
as fair, legitimate, justifiable, and rational, and perhaps even
natural and inevitable.

~snip~

The strongest form of the system justification hypothesis, which
draws also on the logic of cognitive dissonance theory, is that
under certain circumstances members of disadvantaged groups
would be even more likely than members of advantaged groups to
support the status quo (see Jost et al., 2003). If there is indeed a
motivation to justify the system to reduce ideological dissonance
and defend against threats to the system’s legitimacy, then it may
be that those who suffer the most because of the system are also
those who would have the most to explain, justify, and rationalize.
One way to minimize dissonance would be to redouble one’s
commitment and support for the system, much as hazed initiates
pledge increased loyalty to the fraternity that hazes them (e.g.,
Aronson & Mills, 1959) and, presumably, to the fraternity system
in general.

An additional hypothesis that may be derived from system
justification theory is that people should be motivated to defend
the existing social system against threats to the stability or legitimacy
of the system. If there is a defensive motivation associated
with system justification, then it should be more pronounced under
circumstances that threaten the status quo. This is a possibility that
was suggested by early accounts of authoritarianism (e.g., Adorno
et al., 1950; Fromm, 1941; Reich, 1946/1970; Sanford, 1966), but
situational threats have received much less attention in recent years
in comparison with the measurement of individual differences (but
see Sales, 1972, 1973). Thus, we hypothesized that situations of
crisis or instability in society will, generally speaking, precipitate
conservative, system-justifying shifts to the political right, but only
as long as the crisis situation falls short of toppling the existing
regime and establishing a new status quo for people to justify and
rationalize (p. 350, 351).
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:17 AM
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15. That's a lot
Forget all that. All you need is one word, one name: Diebold
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:46 AM
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16. No, ES&S.
Diebold became Premier Election Solutions and then was sold off to ES&S. ES&S will be counting 80% of the vote this November, DoJ be damned.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:52 AM
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17. You are a minority
And I applaud your intelligence.
Yours is a rare commodity on DU when it comes to what counts our votes.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:55 AM
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3. wish I could rec this a thousand times-- and yet, this is only a partial list of their sins.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:11 AM
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6. Right Now, the Republicans are so hell bent on "belt-tightening"
while the economy is still fragile--only more proof they
would just as Hoover, throw us into another Recession-Depression.

Each of their proposal is the same old same old Conservative
Economic Fundamentalism. This is exactly what took us into
the ditch.

Democrats had best do a better job of pointing out the Republican
Failure and why they will do the same thing if given power.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:24 AM
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9. The original 'who could have thought' girl:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:28 AM
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11. And when will the voters ever learn
to think for themselves, ignore the pundits and quit letting the media inflame them with wedge issues.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:38 AM
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13. Older example: St. Ronald (9/21/80 presidential debate)
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 09:40 AM by JHB
And so the plan that I have proposed -- and contrary to what John says, my plan is for a phased-in tax cut over a three-year period -- tax increase in depreciation allowances for business and industry, to give them the capital to refurbish plants and equipment, research and development, improved technology -- all of which we see our foreign competitors having and we have the greatest percentage of outmoded industrial plant and equipment of any of the industrial nations – produce more and have stable money supply and give the people of this country a greater share of their own savings.

"What could happen? They use the money to go on a merger and buyout binge, and build plants in cheap-labor countries rather than refurbishing the ones here? Pshaw! What are the odds of that happening?"


edited to add source link:
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/9.21.80.html
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 07:49 PM
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21. And it continues!
Tax cuts for corporations create jobs, because of course they'll keep the jobs here and not try to make obscene amounts of money for their top fatcats. And tax cuts for the wealthy increase revenues, because of course they just spend spend spend, and every yacht counts!!

(Also, unfunded wars help the economy. What deficits?)

But $300 for unemployed "hobos?" Can't afford THAT.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:05 AM
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18. But Republicans have the wonderful filibuster which overrides any attempts to fix things.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:06 AM
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19. The Republicans have the THREAT of a filibuster.
I think we should make them use it. Every fucking time.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:58 AM
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20. Ah yes. You're right. It only takes a threat and Reid will never require them to act.
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