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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:03 PM
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>>>Official Gonzogate Thread 7-due to bugs I apologize if a dupe
cspan coverage
http://www.c-span.org/

due to bugs previous threads not listed
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:04 PM
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1. other links
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:23 PM
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2. What ever..............
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:25 PM
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5. Some posts have disappeared from this thread-Tammy Baldwin has
read details about the USA Biskupic prosecution of Georgia Thompson and its reversal, she is tying Sensenbrenner to it
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:23 PM
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3. Thread 7's kinda a dud.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:23 PM
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4. glad to be back again!!!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:25 PM
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6. At least for the moment......
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:25 PM
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7. I haven't been able to post
is this happening to anyone else?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:26 PM
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8. That's why this thread is here, dud or not.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:52 PM
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64. thank you for trying.
DU is too much hard work anymore.

I appreciate your efforts.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:26 PM
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9. I wonder If * Will Pull A "rummy"?
You know, . . wait till it's waaaaaaaaay tooooooooo laaaaaaaaate . . .
There's no waiting this time, or there ought not ot be. Someone has to step in.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:26 PM
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10. (who was the guy that was YELLING at alberto about half an hour ago
or 45 minutes ago?)
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:28 PM
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11. Congressman Robert Wexler (D-Florida)
http://www.truthout.org/GonzalesAgain.shtml

1:43 PM EDT

Congressman Robert Wexler (D-Florida) questioned Gonzales about how David Iglesias, the former US attorney for New Mexico, appeared on the list of fired prosecutors. Wexler engaged in a heated exchange with Gonzales, going through a list of names of various Justice Department officials who were known not to have been responsible for placing Iglesias's name on the so-called list. Gonzales said he accepted responsibility for carrying out the firing, but Wexler said he did not care about Gonzales's accepting responsibility for the dismissals because he was more concerned with who was responsible for selecting Iglesias for termination. Gonzales told Wexler that Iglesias's name "was forwarded to me." Gonzales's former Chief of Staff Kyle Sampson "was in charge of coordinating this effort," Gonzales said. "I have not spoken to Mr. Sampson about this." Wexler responded angrily to what he perceived as Gonzales withholding information from the committee, saying "you won't tell the American people who put Mr. Iglesias on the list to be fired. It's a national secret. You know who put him on the list, but you won't tell us."
- Jason Leopold
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:29 PM
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15. that was when i first tuned in--he was WONDERFUL. thanks for the answer n/t
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:54 PM
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67. Wexler was bouncing up and down in his seat while Gonzo blathered.
I was afraid would lose it and strangle Gonzo. He was great.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:28 PM
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12. Tammy Baldwin also stated that the USA firings need Congressional investigation, she
did a great job.

Now some Texas Rep. is gushing about being "judgemental"
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:29 PM
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16. He's calling Gonzo "General"!!????
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:31 PM by karlrschneider
:wtf:
edit: meant to reply to post 13
:eyes:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:28 PM
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13. What the hell is this Texan talking about?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:30 PM
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17. he wants a double standard: go ahead and call alberto a liar but
not sanchez

(besides that, i don't get his reference)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:49 PM
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54. he wants a double standard: go ahead and call alberto a liar but
not sanchez

(besides that, i don't get his reference)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:29 PM
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14. Why WAS there a bug for some and not others?
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:31 PM by WinkyDink
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:31 PM
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20. Skinner said at any given time a third of us are not able to access...
I guess it's a "rolling blockout." :shrug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:32 PM
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22. Ah. Okay, thanks!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:33 PM
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24. Bothers me that Gonzo seems so carefree about his statements.
and confident. Doesn't look like a guy going down...looks like he knows he's secure and his disdain for the Judiciary Committee is disgusting.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:41 PM
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35. He isn't going anywhere.
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:41 PM by fooj
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10gonzales.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

Just ask Chuck. He is quoted at the bottom of this article as stating that it "really doesn't matter anymore if he stays or goes..."

Lovely.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:32 PM
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21. Don't know, don't believe in coincidence in this case-maybe when the replay is on
we can do better.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:30 PM
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18. Didn't Gonzo tell the Senate that he didn't know
recall the phone calls from Domenici? That's NOT what he just told Wexler.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:31 PM
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19. LOved to see Tammy Baldwin zap it Gonzo (too little time for her)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:33 PM
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23. All I know is: Gonzo is slick, and hasn't given one inch to any inquisitor, in any forum.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:33 PM
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25. Repug. Gohmert up
I'm seeing a war going on. The rethug panel are creating diversion as the dems look dumbfounded.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:33 PM
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26. why did du go down the most important time?????????? this is the first i can post or
see on du..it went down when Wexler was on!!

why every time it is important is DU going down??????????

don't known if i will be able to post again..that is why i am asking here...

fly
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:40 PM
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32. DU has been buggy all day, before this started.
Maybe it's the heat, maybe the humidity....
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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38. DU is ALWAYS buggy lately.
It MUST be the weather.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:59 PM
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71. water bugs are hungry?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:40 PM
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don't know why it was down. it went down & up for me and then down again
du is GoInG CrAzY
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:38 PM
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27. some Dem just told Gonzo he should RESIGN!!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:39 PM
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29. Adam Schiff?
Cool!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:40 PM
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33. AGAG was shaking, literally.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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39. He responded the same way when Wexler questioned him.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:43 PM
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41. Was it? I used to live in his district
nice to know if he grew a pair, so to speak.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:39 PM
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30. He worked as an US attorney for 6 years.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:40 PM
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34. Some rethug told him
virtually to shut the fuck up
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:38 PM
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28. Gonzales again asked to resign.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:40 PM
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31. Wexler helped some...
...but I'm tellin' youse, we're getting the stuffing kicked out of us. I am disheartened.

I hate to say this but: the Republicans are showing us how to be an effective minority. They are sticking to their guns, using procedural methods, whatever it takes to lift up the foundering AGAG. Our side, not so good at it whether we are in the majority or the minority, as today's hearings have amply showed.

And why don't they have a rule that a hearing stay on topic? If they had such a rule and enforced it, 90% of the Republican grandstanding would have been eliminated.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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37. Well, I disagree. I think we're doing fine and Gonzo is looking like the
prevaricating horseshitter that he is. The GOP, IMO, is looking like a bunch of whiners. If they aren't waving Clinton's penis about, they're crying about Reno--and I seem to recall they had the clout on the Hill when she was in Gonzo's job...
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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The dems are letting the rethugs
ask, divert and tell the dems to shut up as if they are still in charge. Fuck dems fight back!!!!!!!!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:42 PM
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40. "how to be an effective minority" Bullshit they are merely good NAZIs.
Any rational, free-thinking person can see this smarmy power play.

It's time for "Impeachment for Gonzo!" :applause:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:23 PM
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76. "Any rational, free thinking person"...
...well, as Adlai Stevenson famously remarked, "Yes, but I need a majority!"

See, it's not whether it all holds together logically. I can see he's a smarmy lying asshole. I can see that the Republicans are engaging in a coordinated effort to deflect the issue and defend the AG. But they are being effective, which is an entirely question from whether they are good guys or not (we already know the answer to that anyway).

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:41 PM
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36. I really like Adam Sciff! He's a very sharp attorney, and it shows!
I sure could tell he was a very successful USA! I don't live in Ca. so I don't know if I can send him a congrat note, but I was IMPRESSED!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:43 PM
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42. Cannon is acting
like Mr. Gonzo defender super-hero-type guy.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:45 PM
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46. This is how crazy people act right before the men in white take them away.
Gawd, it's entertaining to watch the republicans seemingly de-compensate. These authority worshiping bastards are on their way OUT ... in a big way. :evilgrin:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:47 PM
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51. NO I WILL NOT YIELD!
Good for the Congressman from Alabama.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:49 PM
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57. I bet that pissed off the republicans.
:evilgrin:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:44 PM
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43. How much time is left? Are we not over the time?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:44 PM
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44. FIRE DRILL?? n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:45 PM
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45. He didn't EVEN ADMIT he knew about Domenici during the Senate Hearings
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:46 PM
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50. Are there any Democratic Senators that have had concerns on US attorneys
Gonzales.......NO
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:46 PM
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47. Chair recognizes Archer Davis from Alabama-bells going off
Davis hones in on Domenici "Is it your practice to sample the opinion of US Senators regarding USA?"

Davis isn't allowing evasion.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:48 PM
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52. Our boys and girls are now kicking some AG butt!
:applause: :thumbsup:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:46 PM
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48. Arthur Davis
is doing it right.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:46 PM
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49. It's getting OLD. Notice the rise in emotion of Dems.
I hate liars and sneaks.

What is it going to take to break this RACKET!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:48 PM
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53. Davis has asked for a Minnesota U study to be admitted into record
Davis is citing Georgia Thompson case
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:49 PM
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55. Conyers is letting Gonzo blather. WTH?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:51 PM
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59. Quite frankly, Conyers dissappoints me.
Oh wait...Let's COMMEND the AG for his patience...

Fuck! WTF?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:05 PM
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73. I emailed a friend earlier about this. Conyers is really beginning to worry me.
First, Impeachment off the table and now his shortness with the Dems and deference for Gonzo?

Placing my :tinfoilhat: firmly on, I think someone has something on Conyers.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:15 PM
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75. Conyers must have woken up with a horse's head in his bed.
I can't figure out why else he's tucking his tail between his legs, if that isn't the case.

He also hasn't pushed the issue about "secret" computerized voting machines.

Something has to be up.

:kick::kick::kick:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:32 PM
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77. Yup, I Wouldn't Doubt His Life & Others He knows Have Been threatened (nt)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:49 PM
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56. Davis asking about Georgia Thompson
I dig Mr. Davis.

Poor Al. he can't answer the mean man's real questions without lying.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:52 PM
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63. Good thing Gonzo's wife is not present for this mean old man would make
her cry a la Alito posturing. :P
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:50 PM
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58. Aaaand C-Span3 goes mute during Davis' query.......
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:52 PM
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62. Went back up JUST IN TME for Conyers COMMENDING the AG!
Lovely.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:51 PM
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60. "May I commend the AG on his endurance on this grueling day?" OMG.
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:52 PM by WinkyDink
I'd like to test his endurance in Abu Ghraib.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:54 PM
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66. IMO, Conyers is way too nice ... I say figuratively go for the throat and don't let go.
Edited on Thu May-10-07 01:54 PM by ShortnFiery
:evilgrin:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:54 PM
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68. Heh. I'd like to watch *that*!
:applause: Good one!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:51 PM
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61. Recess until after vote
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:53 PM
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65. * press conference on C-Span (while the vote is being recorded)
same ole, same ole.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:57 PM
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69. short recess for House vote-MORE to come "several members" yet to ask
questions per Conyrs
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 01:57 PM
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70. When Wexler was on the bugs hit hard-I hope there is a replay
AGAG also got hammered by Waters, Baldwin, Davis, and Waxman.

They all took it to the White House involvement, the politicization and corruption.

Shiff again asked AGAG to resign.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:02 PM
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72. I've got limited tech, I started this thread when the bugs lessened
so if anyone would start an official thread 8 before the recess is over please do so.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:14 PM
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74. Someone should start thread 8 before the recess is over, the bugs are htting my pc
off and on-and I'm old school
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:37 PM
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78. Back on!!!
Conyers speaking now.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:41 PM
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80. come on Conyers, tell him to resign, fuck it, I'm going to call my
reps and senators and tell them they need to be impeached!!!!!!!!!! What BS!!!!!!!!!!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:41 PM
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82. And KICKING ass, too. "Hatch Act may have been violated..."
Now the ranking member is gonna try to ameliorate.

Good luck. This stinks, and even an idiot can smell it.

We'll see what Monica Goodling has to say...will she protect the boss, or will she roll over and tell the truth?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:39 PM
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79. Conyers is laying down the law to Alberto.....
Saying he has not been honest with the committee.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:43 PM
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86. does Gonzo have that smirk????
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:41 PM
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81. is this a replay from this morning? or new, after the break?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:42 PM
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83. New, live and in color (I'm not watching, just listening, though!). NT
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:42 PM
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84. Maybe so.......sorry if it is
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 02:43 PM
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85. New thread
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