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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:06 AM
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NPR's Scott Simon humiliates Daniel Schorr over baseball
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 10:09 AM by Enrique
It's at the very end of the segment, Schorr obviously doesn't know anything about baseball, but he wants to say something about that new pitcher in Washington.

I say who cares how much he knows, it's just a game, let Schorr play.

Simon says to himself, baseball is very important and we can't have ignorant people joining in the fun so I'm going to make this 94-year-old man squirm:

http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=127790289&m=127790251
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:08 AM
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1. Scott helped foist George W Bush on Amerika.
That's truly more evil than anything Daniel Schorr's done.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:38 AM
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2. Daniel Schorr interviews Fletcher Prouty on CBS News - (7/11/75)
Correct as usual, Octafish.

Scott Psymon probably resents the fact that, unlike Scott's support for all things neoCon, Daniel Schorr will be proven to have been on the correct side of History.

Probably not coincidentally Daniel Schorr was fired from CBS News shortly after that interview...

http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_8_review.html
...Ford decided to use the 1975 murder of a CIA officer as a way to squelch and smear any further investigation. Richard Welch was the CIA station chief in Athens. The CIA and Ford blamed his death on the fact that his name had been exposed by an American journal called Counterspy. In fact, the leftist rebel group who killed him had issued a communiqué beforehand that revealed they knew his name then. (Schorr, p. 191) In a classic case of political propaganda, Ford and the CIA pulled out all the stops in using Welch's funeral as psychological warfare against the committees. Welch's body was flown into Andrews Air Force Base. But the plane circled the base for 15 minutes to time the landing for the morning news shows. (ibid) Ford attended the chapel service. But the press was barred in order to suggest that they were to blame for Welch's murder. Colby issued a statement saying that Welch's death was the result of a "paranoiac attack on ... Americans serving their country." David Phillips was interviewed by CBS and said, American agents are in less danger today from the KGB than from the "moral primitives" who "condemn my label". (ibid) Welch's body was buried at Arlington with full military honors. His coffin was carried on the same horse-drawn caisson that carried President Kennedy's. Colby gave the flag draped over it to Welch's widow. As Schorr wrote, "This is the CIA's first secret agent to become a pubic national hero." (ibid)

It worked. Henry Kissinger jumped on the committees: "I think they have used classified information in a reckless way ... " (ibid p. 194) Both committees closed up shop shortly after. Ford and the CIA held veto power over what could be published. When Otis Pike defied that agreement, Congress bottled up his report. A copy was smuggled to Daniel Schorr. As he was arranging to have it released, his boss, Bill Paley, lunched with Bush. (ibid, p. 201) The Pike Report was published in a special issue of The Village Voice. Forgetting his own use of classified material for his Oswald book, Ford now proposed an FBI investigation to find out who gave the report to Schorr. (ibid, p. 208) After Paley's meeting with Director Bush, Schorr was taken off the air by CBS. After a two hour impromptu interrogation – during which he was not represented by counsel – Schorr was fired by the network. He was later investigated by the House but refused to reveal his source for the report...

More » http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black468c.mp3

Daniel Schorr interviews Fletcher Prouty on CBS News - (7/11/75)

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:07 AM
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4. Welch assassination spurred domestic operations disguised as 'counterterrorism.'
Thank you, MinM. A most interesting cast of characters fills the airwaves, nearly all of whom had no interest in truth.



CIA Censors Books
Bush Perfects the Cover-up
excerpted from the book
Secrets
The CIA's War at Home


by Angus Mackenzie
University of California Press, 1997, paper

EXCERPT...

A continuing series of scandals had eroded the CIA's public credibility. In November I975, Frank Church's Senate committee reported that the CIA had tried to assassinate Cuban leader Fidel Castro and had engineered the murder of Patrice Lumumba, the prime minister of the new Republic of the Congo. The Church Committee also contradicted the sworn testimony of Richard Helms by revealing that the CIA had helped engineer the I973 coup in Chile. Moreover, several former CIA operatives-Victor Marchetti, Philip Agee, and Stanley Sheinbaum-had joined the CounterSpy advisory board to help consolidate the outside pressure against the CIA.'

The CIA was not without resources, of course. In I975, former CIA officers, including David Atlee Phillips, organized the Association of Retired Intelligence Officers to undertake a public relations campaign to enhance the Agency's image. Phillips also operated behind the scenes. He told Marchetti, whose name was on the CounterSpy masthead, "Get your name off. We're going to land on them." Marchetti respected the CIA's power and took the warning to heart. He withdrew from the magazine and talked others into leaving with him.

Just before Christmas I975, a tragedy had provided an opportunity to shift the scrutiny away from the CIA scandals. In Athens, Greece, the CIA chief of station Richard Skeffington Welch was assassinated on December 23, gunned down as he returned to his house from a party at the U.S. ambassador's residence. His death focused attention on the danger inherent in publishing the names of CIA agents. Welch had been identified as a CIA officer in a letter to the editor published by the Athens News a month earlier on November 25. The letter, signed by the "Committee of Greeks and Greek Americans to Prevent Their Country, Their Fatherland, from Being Perverted to the Uses of the CIA," denounced the CIA for its role in the installation of a reactionary Greek government. While Welch's assassins most likely learned about his CIA affiliation from this letter (or from his decision to live in an Athens house well known as a CIA residence), most of the blame for his death was aimed at CounterSpy, which also had printed Welch's name.

In the midst of the Senate vote to confirm George Bush in January I976, intelligence officials were making no secret of their outrage over Welch's death and their fury at CounterSpy. A well-known reporter told editor Tim Butz that his own life had been threatened by angry former intelligence officers, and Butz began to carry a gun. Members of the New York intelligentsia, who had been drawn to CounterSpy by Norman Mailer, began to keep their distance. It was unseemly to be contributing money to a magazine accused of having blood on its hands.

Even though CIA critics were put on the defensive by the Welch assassination, it did not take Bush long to appreciate that he had his work cut out for him when it came to casting the Agency in a positive light. Less than a month after taking over, he had to answer questions about a report by the House Select Committee on Intelligence. Although the House had voted to suppress the report at President Ford's request, someone leaked it. The whole report, known as the Pike Report after U.S. Representative Otis Pike, Democrat of New York, was reprinted in the Village Voice issues of February I6 and z3, I976.
The Pike Report was shocking because it provided the first official overview of CIA excesses: the Agency ran large propaganda operations, bankrolled armies of its own, and incurred billions in unsupervised expenses. The report revealed that top CIA officials had tolerated cost overruns nearly 400 percent beyond the Agency budget for foreign operations and 500 percent beyond the budget for domestic operations, for years concealing their profligacy from Congress. The CIA also was said to have secretly built up a military capacity larger than most foreign armies; the CIA and FBI between them had spent $I0 billion with little independent supervision. Further, the CIA's single biggest category of overseas covert projects involved the news media: it supported friendly news publications, planted articles in newspapers, and distributed ClA-sponsored books and leaflets. The phony CIA dispatches had often found their way into domestic news stories, thus polluting with inaccuracies the news received by Americans.

SOURCE: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CensorsBooks_SecretsCIA.html



It used to be easier to find these things online. That's why people should read your journal MinM.

PS: Thank you for the kind words, my Friend. Have you seen this swag?

Lies Of Our Times

Issue 33 is pertinent to the our circumstances: Lots still left in the Covert Action Quarterly Archive.

PPS: Bottom line: The BFEE secret police serve Big Money and that's bad news for America, freedom and Democracy. We the People? Fuggedaboudid.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:55 PM
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9. From use of classified material in an Oswald book » to outing Valerie Plame...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 02:08 PM
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10. Before Diem assassination, CIA bigwigs hung out Saigon station chief for business' sake.
They were "furious" at Washington Daily News for reporting what everybody in Hanoi knew.

'Arrogant' CIA Disobeys Orders in Viet Nam

Remember who they sent looking for oil in Vietnam, just before Tet?

No Shocker: CIA Docs show H.W.'s Oil Co Emerged w collaboration Covert CIA Officer

Capitalism's Invisible Army cares about protecting the wealthy few, first and foremost, the ownership class.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:56 AM
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3. oh the humanity
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:39 AM
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5. a long time ago
I liked Scott Simeon. I can't stand him. Can't figure out if it was his marriage, the kids, but he has definitely become a first class putz.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:13 PM
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7. I couldn't believe he was serious this morning when he said Obama's use
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 12:15 PM by Sal Minella
of the word "ass" was just tew tew vulgar, and beneath him -- Scott thinks Obama could have made his statement more eloquently by using words like "hellfire" and "damnation."

I guess SS was serious -- maybe he actually believes that words referencing myths of afterlife found in one particular religion are more powerful than words of immediate physical threat.

Edit: tyop
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:54 AM
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6. Don't pick on Shorr too much
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 11:55 AM by 90-percent
He was an acquaintance of my hero Frank Zappa and did an epitaph for Frank on NPR when he died back in 1993.

Linda Ellerby did something like that for Frank, also.

-jim
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:24 PM
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8. Dan Schorr has let himself be ridiculed over his ignorance of all sports
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 12:50 PM by Sal Minella
news for years -- I think it's a form of self-deprecation that he deliberately uses so as to seem less pontifical when people ask him to interpret events and trends.

To Simon, Dan is exhibiting his dunderheaded ignorance in sports matters.
To Schorr, sports are of little to no consequence in the affairs of the world.

i.e.,
"Tell us who's going to win the World Series tomorrow, Dan."
"Okay. Who's playing?"

I love Dan Schorr.

Edit: clarification.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:39 PM
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11. OTOH Liane Hansen is very good on the Sunday Morning Edition
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