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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:49 PM
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If you can unilaterally fire all the teachers in a school, you sure as HELL can fire ...
The MMS, EPA, and for that matter the whole lot of these ignorant, lazy, self-dealing, UNPATRIOTIC BUsh-era hires & appointees.

The President shouldn't HAVE to ASK (!) OSHA, FEMA, NLRB or any other department or agency to prettyplease do your job, please.

Every dammned agency we have exists - in one way or another - to protect We, The People.

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:57 PM
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1. Civil Service protection...
...is the only reason why there are any non-Bush-mole Federal employees.

This cuts both ways -- and the Democrats will not be in power forever.

Dumb, and illegal -- the DU Way.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:02 PM
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2. Teachers have unions.........
what is the difference??
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:07 PM
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3. Collective bargaining agreements...
...aren't Federal law.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:25 PM
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4. Just so I understand
Federal employees are covered under federal law but not a union contract.

State and local employees if unionized are covered under a union contract.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:26 PM
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5. the republican secretary of defense has civil service protection? didn't know that nt
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:32 PM
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7. You're being willfully obtuse, or trolling.
Secretaries, undersecretaries, their staffs, some counsel, etc. are fireable. But the proportion is small, for example, only 10 people in the MMS that are subject to service at the president's pleasure. The rest are protected.

There are 350,000 civilian civil servants in the DoD, give or take. Approximately 130 of them are in the Plum Book.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:38 PM
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8. Yeah, forget it, becasue only the top people can be fired.
Gee. THAT might help. Let's try it.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:09 PM
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11. Getting rid of whistleblowers doesn't seem to be a problem.
The fuckups they blow the whistle on.. not so much..
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:32 PM
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6. Does this mean we have to fight to prevent these people from any accountability for their jobs?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:44 PM
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9. As surely as the sun rises in the east...(n/t)
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:06 PM
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10. hey, let's turn healthcare and finance reform and carbon tax and ....
maybe if we work hard we can spend all our stimulus funds hiring more government employees that we can't fire.
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