Would Elton John play at a wedding for Fred Phelps' family?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

seriously, what's the difference?

Both are massive hatemongers. One is simply deemed acceptable by the corporate media.

Rush can go the radio and celebrate people dying of AIDS, applaud inaction onwhat he mocked as merely "a gay disease," and call homosexuals every name in the book - but he's OK, because the rich and famous like to go to his cocktail parties.

Phelps is a buffoon who hurts his cause and his outlandish rhetoric really doesn't infiltrate society as he would hope..
If anything, Rush is more dangerous than Phelps because he's given legitimacy by the media and the things he says are allowed to be taken seriously.

Hate is hate, regardless of whether it has money behind it or not, and Elton should be condemned for celebrating those who push it.

[Faygo Kid]

1. Well said.

[hlthe2b]

2. Oh, I think it would be wonderful if Elton played for the wackos

Like Michael Moore and his pink "homo" bus full of Family Phelps antagonists when they came to visit during an episode of his last tv show, Fred would learn quite a lesson, I'd bet. And, I would imagine Elton would take major advantage of the situation. :evilgrin:

Winning on THEIR turf, can be real poetic justice.

[LibDemAlways]

3. Elton certainly doesn't need the money. How he could associate himself

with a slimebag like Limpballs is beyond me.

Playing at the wedding of any rightwing hatemonger sends the message that $$ trumps everything.

[StopTheNeoCons]

4. Sir Elton is just another whore...for money, he'll do anything for anybody...nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Rush Limbaugh is just another whore... for money he'll say anything about anybody...nt

[whopis01]

40. Both comments are spot on. n/t

[elfin]

6. If the price is right -- eom

[awoke_in_2003]

26. +1000 nt

[tularetom]

7. Why does anybody care what Elton John does?

He'd play anywhere if the price was right.

His music sucks and he's a whore. Of course he'd play for Phelps if he got paid enough.

[Oedipus W. Bush]

8. Agreed. Too few people see Limbaugh for what he is: a professional hate monger.

Limbaugh and his supporters often go to great lengths to emphasize that he is just an entertainer, especially after one of Limbaugh's more egregiously hateful comments. But he is nothing more than a professional hate monger with an abundance of bigotry, some crude wit and mimicry skills and an ever present eagerness to lie. If more people would recognize this no decent person would associate with him.

[MindandSoul]

9. Unfortunately, it sounds like he would play for just about anyone! Dissapointing!

[Jamastiene]

10. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. n/t

[foxfeet]

11. Elton John's Charity Work, Events and Causes

Sir Elton John has seen many of his close friends die from HIV/AIDS over the years, and established the Elton John AIDS Foundation (EJAF) in 1992 to try to stem the destruction the disease causes around the world.

SNIP

“I have lost many dear friends to this terrible disease,” he said on the EJAF website. “In the mid-1980s, I began channeling my grief into efforts to help raise money for the pioneering charitable organizations that formed during those dark, grim years to fund AIDS research and provide vital services to people with HIV/AIDS.”

Since its founding, EJAF has raised over $125 million to support programs in 55 countries around the globe through prevention and education, elimination of prejudice and discrimination, and providing services to people living with the disease.

The singer also gives large amounts of his personal wealth to charity. In 2004 he donated over $43 million to organizations around the world, making him the most generous person in music for that year – a title he retains year after year. Earlier this year he donated 120 motorcycles to the African nation of Lesotho, to be used by doctors and nurses to visit patients in remote areas, and in 1997 he raised $40 million for charity through sales of Candle In The Wind, the single released following the death of Princess Diana.



Read more: http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/62-elton-john#ixzz0q7htPy16

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. +1

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

15. then why celebrate a man who mocked AIDS victims?

the first time I heard Limbaugh was back in 1993 (I was 16). Jurassic park was the big film of the year, and some conservative rag had a cartoon where a group of dinosaurs were carrying gay rights signs. The caption read "The real reson the dinosaurs died out." Limbaugh was chortling on the air for a half hour about how funny he thought this cartoon was.

Limbaugh has always been a homophobic bigot. He may be a little more slick about his delivery as times change, but he's never apologized for all the remarks he made about AIDS in the 80s and 90s. And he still demonizes advocates for marriage equality.

And his hate doesn't end with gays. Asl any minority, or women for that matter, what they think of him.

Elton may do good work, but by celebrating Limbaugh he's legitimizing a bigot with one of the biggest public platforms in the U.S. Such a person deserves to be shunned - as is the case with Phelps.

They certainly don't deserve their own personal, private concert.

But it's easy for Sir Elton, from his gazillion-dollar home with security and celeb friends to see this as a harmless matter. He no longer has to deal with this hatred in every day life and feel its effects. He doesn't have to worry about losing a job because of anti-gay views of a an employer. He doesn't have to fear assault or beating due to his orientation. Matthew Sheppard's fate is something he only reads about in the news. It doesn't hit home with him.

The views of Limbaugh and his ilk have a long way to go before they work their way up the ladder to affect him, And he think that makes it OK. To those in the lowly masses who have to deal with continuing hate and discrimination, Sir Elton has basically said (for $1 million in pieces of silver), "I've got mine. Fuck you."

[left coaster]

17. +1,000 nt

[foxfeet]

21. Kindly spare me the lecture.

I'm gay, HIV+ and old enough to be your father. I don't give a flying fuck one way or the other whether you do or do not enjoy Elton John's music; that is a matter of personal taste. It is impossible to deny, however, that Elton John has used his wealth and celebrity to give generously to many causes, not only those that benefit the GLBT community. If he can make a million bucks for the cause while serenading a pig, that's just fine with me. It's a transformative way to use the money Limbaugh has gained from spreading hate.

Oh, and just so you know, the term "AIDS victims" went out of polite use long ago. The preferred term is "people living with AIDS/HIV."

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

22. you are quite right about the terminology

and i apologize.
but my point stands.
I think at, best, Elton is blind to the effects of Limbaugh, or , at worst, feels the money outweighs the costs of legitimizing them.
Hopefully, you're correct and he'll make the best use of the worst gig he ever played. But I remain skeptical.

[donco6]

25. And then he goes and fucks it up by cozying up to LImbaush.

What an ass.

[msanthrope]

29. Is it possible he thinks this would help soften Limbaugh?

Look, Elton John championed Ryan White when no one else had the courage to.

I think Elton John had done enough good that he might have earned a breath before the rush to condemn him...

[donco6]

31. Nope. Sorry.

He doesn't get a pass on this. No Fucking Way. I don't care what else he's done. By sucking up to that fascist, homo-hating, domestic terrorist, he's decided money is more important than any iota of principle he might have once possessed. No way.

[msanthrope]

32. I understand. I do. n/t

[donco6]

33. Thanks - sorry to get all frothy there.

Because I really loved Elton. I have all his albums. This just sucks.

[msanthrope]

36. Not at all. I am disappointed, too. n/t

[donheld]

38. I'm right there with you

[LynneSin]

47. Sorry, the guy just whored himself to a man who degrades the GLBT community

nuff said.

[foxfeet]

49. Well, I guess the DU Inquisition has spoken.

[LuvNewcastle]

12. I know I won't be attending

any Elton John concerts. If he wants to make money, he can play at Rush's house or at the home of some other odious right-wing commentator. After all, as was pointed out above, his music sucks anyway and people should find better things to do than listen to that pop-drivel.

[izquierdista]

13. I bet the 'Deliverance' band would

[CBGLuthier]

50. Deliverance band? Are you talking about the movie?

The nice but doomed guy (Ronnie Cox) from the city plays along with the freaky looking backwoods kid. That is not a band and one of them was not really a redneck. Have you even seen the movie? It is not exactly a course work in southern culture.

[Diamonique]

16. What's the problem?

Elton John has said many times that he will play anywhere for anyone for one million dollars, and that the money goes to AIDS research.

I don't see a problem here.

The WTF moment for me came with the realization that someone would actual marry Limpblob. Eeeeeww!

[glitch]

20. Rush Limbaugh indirectly paying for AIDS research works for me.

Very creepy thing for Elton to have to go through though, he deserves some credit.
Like performing for zombies. :scared:

[guitar man]

18. Eh

A gig is a gig I guess.

[Canuckistanian]

19. I asked a similar question earlier

What are his limits?

If Sir Elton lived in Rush's "ideal world", he be locked up as a "moral deviate".

But of course, no questions are asked of Rush's private peccadilloes, are there?

[donco6]

23. How much do they pay?

I'm sure it can be arranged. And he'll have a really nice press release about it, too.

[Bluebear]

24. Donnie McClurkin is a hatemonger too

[msanthrope]

27. When Elton John performed with Eminem, people said the same shit.

But Marshall and Elton learned from each other.

I don't like it...but maybe Elton John saw this as a way to persuade. I can't disregard all he's done, and cut him off based on this.

[joeybee12]

45. I'd try to persuade someone for $1 million also...yeah, Marshall learned...

:crazy:

[canetoad]

28. During the worst days of the French Revolution

The crowds seized a woman who sold umbrellas to aristocrats at the gates of Versailles. Her feet were nailed to a board and a fire lit under her.

A baker who supplied pastries to the rich was basted in butter and roasted in his own oven.

Just sayin.

[Captain Hilts]

30. Would the president invite a hate monger to say a prayer at the inauguration? Yes! nt

[Maru Kitteh]

34. Seems like a valid question to me.

[Hempathy]

35. No, he wouldn't.

Because they couldn't afford his fee.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

37. My wedding gift--sung to the tune of "I guess that's why they call it the blues."

Humping like Pig-fucks, lying like liars
Shitting on people like ass-sucking shit-bags
And I guess that's why you're kind of a whore.

***Copyright pending. You must get permission to use these lyrics on Hallmark cards and/or all other Disney/Nickelodeon products (I can repost because I own the copyright).

[Bluebear]

39. It was only one song!!1

:cry:

[joeybee12]

41. If there was enough money at stake, yeah, he's a whore...

an over-rated classless whore.

[LynneSin]

42. I don't care how much money I was paid - I would not show up to that monster's wedding

I almost could understand Carville, he is married to a repuke. But I will not give another dime to Elton John, I don't care how progressive he is. He would celebrate a wedding like this makes me sick!

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Could Phelps afford him?

[AnArmyVeteran]

44. If Charles Manson had the money Elton John would play at his birthday party too...

I lost all respect for Elton John. He doesn't need any money. And to play at a wedding of a hatemonger who even attacks Elton John and other gays is beyond belief.

I agree with you. Elton John should be condemned. Just the thought of him in the same room with Limblah is disgusting.

[Iggo]

46. Yeah, for a million bucks.

[meegbear]

48. No, because Phelps couldn't afford him

[Wizard777]

51. Probably. Elton has always been a class act. He wont hate somebody just because they hate him.

As far Elton is concerned. If he does that then hate wins and everybody loses. He sang a duet with Eminem who's supposedly homophobic when he's not being homo suggestive in his video's. Elton seems to be more about bridging gaps. Not making them wider and deeper.