Radio host Kevin Price: Receive government benefits... lose your right to vote

[LuckyTheDog]

In the early days of the Republic, people had to be property owners and even taxpayers before they were allowed to vote. Furthermore, the federal government was very limited in what it could do. With only seventeen enumerated powers and those voting having a vested interest, frugal government was much easier to achieve and maintain.

(SNIP)

The classical economist john Stuart Mill advocated the bold proposition that, if people received any government assistance, they would have to turn in their right to vote until they were no longer on the government dole. This policy would apply to the mega rich, the very poor and everyone in between who were getting direct government assistance. People seem to be concerned about "influence peddling." They warn about lobbyists and political action committees throwing money at politicians in order to get their vote on key issues. Yet, influence peddling runs both ways -- it is a two sided coin. Politicians who want to get reelected make all sorts of promises of money, goods, or services in order to buy votes. If the voter became disenfranchised while on the government's budget, politicians would have to find other ways of getting our votes.

http://www.bizplusblog.com/

Ummm... wow. So now it's OK to talk openly about denying citizens the right to vote.

This is no fringe whacko. Here is how this Price describes himself: "Kevin Price is Host of the Price of Business radio show on CNN 650, CBS Radio, AOL Radio, and Yahoo Radio. He is Publisher of USBusinessDaily.com and its affiliates. He is an award winning author of several books and his articles appear at USAToday.com, Reuters, and Chicago Sun Times. Kevin speaks frequently on business, political, and cultural issues. He is often seen on FoxNews.com's Strategy Room. He has a BA in economic history from Abilene Christian University."

[Lasher]

1. DUer Lasher: Host a rightwing radio talk show, lose the right to speak.

Lose the right to do anything except STFU.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Well, a BA in economic history from Abilene Christian University--

who are we to question him, with creds like that? :crazy:

[sinkingfeeling]

3. You know that's funny! Who would be left? About a million?

[DBoon]

8. the unibomber?

or a few folks like him who receive no government subsidies

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Not the unibomber, he's in a federal prison.

[DBoon]

20. another welfare bum! No vote for him!

[arbusto_baboso]

4. So, according to Price, in order to save democracy, we have to destroy it?

Fuck, these loons just don't have any sense of irony, do they?

[LuckyTheDog]

32. This shows John Dean is right

There is an anti-democratic, authoritarian thread that runs through right-wing thinking.

[arbusto_baboso]

33. Funny thing is, ultimately, it's also self-defeating.

Okay, so we don't let anyone vote who gets government assistance.

That means those who are left voting would abolish most forms of government assistance.

Then you'd have pretty much all of the "undesirables" voting again.

Price didn't think this through, did he?

[gmoney]

5. Yeah, Boortz says that all the time...wouldn't that rule out most of the red states entirely?

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html

[wilt the stilt]

15. Boortz=Racist n/t

[bbgrunt]

6. If you include indirect benefits such as tax breaks, no one would be left.

[laughingliberal]

17. If you include bailed out Wall Street and Bank execs, it has possibilities.

Throw in a ban on lobbying by them and I might sign on. :)

[gratuitous]

29. Certainly not radio yakkers

Using the public airwaves as they are, and not paying fair market value.

[joeybee12]

7. Ok, tell the right-wingers to stay the fuck home and off those public roads

if they wanna vote.

[leftstreet]

9. So our politicians couldn't vote?

Sounds good

[Blue_Tires]

10. that means pretty much all of the military and government employees are out...

corporate execs, too (but they don't even need to vote; they just buy congresscritters)


so what is this proposal supposed to solve? I'd rather see some campaign finance and primary format reforms...

[wilt the stilt]

12. I always use this argument when I hear this shit

All homeowners receive a subsidy by having a mortgage deduction. That only leaves renters to vote. Shuts them up real quick.

[jmowreader]

23. It doesn't leave renters either

Rental property is partially subsidized through an IRS deduction on passive loss. Point out renters don't pay property taxes and someone will immediately scream "it's built into your rent payments!" so...obviously if they're paying the property tax they're also receiving the deduction for passive loss through the proxy who actually owns the building. Hence, no renter would be allowed to vote.

Basically, the only people who COULD vote are rich people who own their homes outright.

[wilt the stilt]

26. Renters don't actually take it

the owner of the property takes it on his business taxes.

[jmowreader]

34. That's true, in a sense...

but rental rates would be higher if the deduction didn't exist. (Just as in conservative dreamland rates would be lower if there were no property taxes on rentals--in reality, if you're renting a house for $1000 per month and there's a $1200/year property tax on it, the rate isn't going to drop to $900/month if the property tax suddenly vanished.)

[wilt the stilt]

36. the renter does not get it as a deduction

on their taxes. That is the only way it is a subsidy. secondly, I rent property and it's different than you think. It really isn't a factor when you rent.

[librechik]

13. 47% of salaries in the US paid by US govt (if I'm not mistaken)

And many of the rest are on SS or Medicare. That's a big hit. What an idiot.

[tonysam]

14. Who DOESN'T receive government benefits?

Somebody fell off the turnip truck.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

16. Sounds about right.

USA! USA!

[frylock]

18. why does kevin price hate the troops?

[Sebastian Doyle]

19. If corporate welfare and tax "cuts" for non taxpaying billionaires were included

I might be tempted to side with this asshat. At least for one election, just to see what happens :evilgrin:

[Zoeisright]

21. Hey, so banksters can't vote! Great idea!

What a fucking idiot. I despise repukes more every day.

[11 Bravo]

22. So Sarah Palin can't vote?

[Scuba]

24. No police or fire protection for you Kevin...

...and stay off the roads, out of the libraries and parks. Eat only non-inspected food, and get your healthcare from guys like Rand Paul who set up their own boards for certification.

[county worker]

25. Have public funded elections and you achieve the same end.

[SoxFan]

27. NO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR YOU!

[undeterred]

28. I would like to make him my slave.

He can start by cleaning the bathroom.

[Xicano]

30. Hey asshole! Do you drive on roads paid for by the government? Then I guess you don't get to vote.

n/t

[Initech]

31. What about troops who use VA services? A little hole in the theory there!

[Odin2005]

35. So this asshole thinks that disabled people getting SSDI shoudn't be allowed to vote?

FUCK HIM!!!