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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:11 AM
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Town Bans Bottled Water Sales
CONCORD, Mass. -- The town of Concord has banned the sale of bottled drinking water in town beginning in 2011.

"We only have one planet and I just don't want to see it spoiled," said Jean Hill, who introduced the measure at Concord's Town Meeting.

Hill said that New York, Illinois and Virginia, as well as more than 100 cities, have taken action to cut spending on bottled water.

The measured passed by Concord would allow the sale of refillable containers of water, which could still be sold and delivered in town. Only plastic bottles that companies cannot reuse would be banned.

"Water is something we can get from the faucet. You can't turn your faucet on and get soda," said Selectwoman Virginia McIntyre, explaining why other plastic bottles would not be banned.

Read more: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/23320994/detail.html
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:21 AM
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1. So if I am driving through Concord Massachusetts and need to hydrate myself
I have to go someplace with a faucet and beg for a drink of water? Because although I drink water from reusable containers at home, if I am on a trip, I can't practicably carry enough water so I buy bottles of water as I need them. And the water that comes out of soda dispensers always taste nasty, like ultra diluted soda. Ick.

How are they going to take care of the needs of people who do not have access to a convenient faucet?
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:27 AM
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2. Any gas station or rest stop has a faucet
that you can fill your reusable bottle from and be on your way.

Jeesh!

You do realize that selling water in bottles is a relatively new activity, don't you?

People didn't die of dehydration before the "convenience" of packaging and hauling around plastic bottles of tap water became common.

You'll all survive.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:24 AM
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6. Many of the rest rooms are so nasty I would not want to drink water from their taps
Far too many of the taps have soap build up and have obviously not been properly cleaned in ages. Believe me, I have looked at them.

And I do remember the days when getting a clean drink of water was difficult outside your own house. The one time I visited California they were in a drought and I had to go through twenty questions at every meal to get a glass of water at the table. I've had days when I could not find anywhere to refill my water jug that I carried with me - and ended up dehydrated as a result when I was traveling. Some places would give a complimentary cup of water - 4-6 ounces, barely enough to be a swallow.

No one seems to be proposing banning sodas in plastic bottles. Why not go back to charging a nickel for each container? Then people would have more incentive to return them, they could be re-usable and that could solve a lot of problems.

Other than when I am traveling, I do not purchase water in bottles. But I would hate to go back to the time it was a major hunt to find clean water to drink.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:33 AM
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8. Actually in CA we have just that (CRV). Not sure how much it is helping
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:36 AM
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9. Soda
Edited on Wed May-05-10 02:37 AM by malletgirl02
I agree, with you on the soda point. If water plastic bottles are banned so should soda bottles, because you can get soda about of the fountain machine. Plus, soda is not healthy. I only really drink bottle water when I'm at work or traveling, but I make sure I recycle the bottle when I'm finish.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:43 PM
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24. The last time we went on a trip, the back seat of the truck
Was half full of bottles - mostly Mr. csziggy's soda bottles, since I would fill my big jug with ice wherever I could get it and top it off with water as I emptied it. We bring home all our recyclable trash and make sure it gets recycled.

Same thing at home - Mr. csziggy drinks soda or flavored fizzy water. Three quarters of our home garbage is his bottles and cans. He doesn't want me to buy him a SodaStream home fountain to cut down on the garbage. I may do it anyway - I'd bet once we have it he would like it - and like how much it cuts the recycling garbage.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:40 AM
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10. Every gas station soda fountain machine has a water tab.
You can grab a paper cup or reusable container and use that. Don't be so dramatic.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:47 AM
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12. Every gas station has an outdoor faucet.
I've never had a problem getting permission to fill up my camping jugs. Most grocery stores and every mall has a bathroom that aren't filthy like gas station bathrooms.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:35 PM
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21. Yes, and the water that comes out of them tastes like diluted soda
I get tired of not getting good water from those things. I've also had the employees accuse me of stealing a soda. Some places charge for a full size drink and only allow the cups that are purchased from them (usually foam or plastic) to be filled at their soda fountains, even if all you are getting is water.

I have tried every variation of getting water - restroom faucets, outside faucets, complimentary mini cups, paying for cups of water at restaurants and stores, taking my own container into stores (and still being required to purchase water), carrying ten gallon Igloo coolers from home, buying water in the one gallon containers from the grocery store, etc.

Here is the deal - I buy maybe a half dozen individually size bottles of water a YEAR. I don't travel much and when I can I carry water from home. But there are times when I need water that the alternative methods are not available. I also resent a blanket prohibition of bottled water when NOTHING is being said about cutting the use of bottled sodas.

So don't accuse me of being dramatic - I have been there done that on just about every method of getting water to drink - including drinking from a natural spring by getting down on my knees and sucking the water directly.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:38 PM
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23. I guess you'll have to boycott that town.
I'd hate to see how you react to getting a paper cut. Damn.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:46 AM
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3. Verily. The human population perished before the convenience of the plastic bottle.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:53 AM
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4. No it didn't
But, gas stations and other places used to provide somethings free of charge as a service -- like free air for tires, water for your car radiator, etc
Hell, you can't even use the bathroom without spending money at many stations
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:29 AM
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7. It's scary- People want things to go back to the days when thousands would die every day
From lack of bottled water. They obviously hate America.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:55 AM
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14. bottled water became ubiquitous in approximately the 80s. before that people
drove across the us, both ways, & the california & arizona deserts, & survived by carrying their own water or getting water at stops.

i think it's still possible.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:46 PM
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27. Thank you for saying this....I agree.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:16 AM
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19. OMG, I know- how did people EVER survive before bottled water?
Concord is going to be littered with people dying from dehydration.

We've got to stop this!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:36 PM
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22. +1
:-)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:45 PM
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25. Just keep on driving 'til you get to West Concord.
Know'm say'n?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:57 PM
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31. Or Lexington. Can't take more than 10 minutes to get out of Concord in most directions
Edited on Wed May-05-10 03:58 PM by Gormy Cuss
and Lexington already has businesses designed to serve parched customers from the dry towns of Belmont and Arlington.
:P
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:08 PM
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35. ROFL! Ya'll already runnin' the moonshine trail??
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:03 AM
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5. k & r - Unless more measures such as this
are taken, we will trash this planet. It's time to give up some conveniences and look at the big picture. Where is all of our trash supposed to go?
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:44 AM
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11. Good! I hope more towns follow their lead
I bought one of those steel bottles at Sprouts market and haven't bought one bottle of water since.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:51 AM
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13. good. it's one of the stupider things on the market.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 05:45 AM
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15. Bring back public water fountains where the water is free.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:47 AM
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20. +1. I took my stainless steel bottle to a Nats game last year...
had a hard time locating a drinking fountain. Eventually, after climbing up to the peanut gallery I was successful. It's highway robbery what they charge for a plastic bottle of water at that stadium.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:55 PM
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39. You cannot get into Angels stadium w/ water unless
it is still in its sealed plastic water bottle.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 06:47 AM
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16. I hope they banned bottled soda and beer too which are a bigger seller and fill the streams and
oceans with garbage
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:54 PM
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28. + 1000
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:46 PM
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38. I can't help but believe soda and beer companies are behind this
people are drinking water because it is healthier
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:57 PM
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32. Exactly. Seems hypocritical not to. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 06:53 AM
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17. A Lot Of People Will Just Buy Other Drinks That Come In Plastic Or Glass Bottles
What am I missing?

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Crabitha Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:10 AM
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18. Tell them to send them to Nashville. There's a clean water shortage n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:45 PM
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26. So what about all the bottles of Soda, Juice, Tea and other beverages
Most of them use the same type packaging as bottled water.

Instead of banning bottled water why not better your recycling system. Or even put a deposit on the bottles to help ensure they get returned to a recycling center.
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lefty2000 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:55 PM
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29. Bring Back the Soda Fountain!
Let's buy our beer by the bucket, and our wine by the cask.

Speaking of which, I have a fine Amontillado in the cellar. Would anyone care to taste it?

Only one at a time, please....

;)
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:56 PM
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30. Let's hope they never experience a blackout, hurricane, blizzard or tornado..
I'm sorry but banning bottled water just seems fascist to me.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:59 PM
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33. Amen to that. After 3 hurricanes in 2004 we went through gallons of bottled water.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:07 PM
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34. Same here--will never, ever forget that summer.
BAM. BAM. BAM.

Who could've guessed one would be out of power for nearly two weeks in an area where the hurricane didn't really pass through, just the tornadoes??

We keep two weeks worth of water on hand for us and the pets because we know that shit happens!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:13 PM
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36. There are some second thoughts today
after the recent "boil drinking water" emergency. Concord wasn't involved this time, but next time ...who knows?

According to what I heard...one of my bosses lives in Concord...there isn't enough second though to turn it around.

The vote has to be approve by the state before it becomes law, of course.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:16 PM
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37. They would be wise to reconsider.
Natural/man-made disasters really do require a stockpile of water and access to emergency water.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:41 PM
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40. don't forget earthquakes
here in california we are told to store water for that very reason.
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