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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:02 PM
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DC Madam interview on 20/20 now, 9pmCT. nt
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:07 PM
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1. I'm watching with you
It has been interesting so far.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:08 PM
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2. Pizza, my ass
Or so they say.
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:08 PM
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3. Please post names as you learn them I don't have a tv
:popcorn:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:10 PM
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6. Just said the men weren't newsworthy
and it doesn't look like they will name names.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:11 PM
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10. did their lawyers get to ABC?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:14 PM
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18. I guess what we consider newsworthy and what the media considers newsworthy are different
For example I didn't think it was newsworthy that Clinton got a blow job but the media did. I think clients who work for the government and are using a fantasy sex service (thereby opening themselves up for blackmail) is newsworthy but the media doesn't.

Of course, I didn't think the Bush video of him looking for WMD's around the WH was funny but the press did. And I thought Colbert was hysterical but the press didn't.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:09 PM
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4. west coaster here, hope you'll share. Our show isn't on for another 3 hours.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:09 PM
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5. Ullman was an ass and the girls complained about him.
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:10 PM by Mabus
edited to add, Ullman wrote the book "Shock and Awe"
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:10 PM
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8. thanks. waiting on the edge of my seat.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:10 PM
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7. Legalize prositution. Let people control their sexuality
as use it as they wish. Consenting adults should do whatever they want with their sex organs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:13 PM
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17. I totally agree
as long as my DH isn't on any lists!:D
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:19 PM
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32. You realize you're saying "legalize slavery for women."
And yes, for men in the case of gay male prostitutes, but mostly for women.

There is no way you can sell something like sex without exploitation. No matter how many European countries you drag into the argument or how many phony testimonials you produce. A person who uses a prostitute is encouraging slavery and abuse of women. I know. My brother did. I will never speak to him for the rest of his life.
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:24 PM
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39. I gotta go with legalization too
You disowned your brother for having sex with a prostitute?

I'm not for it or anything I certainly wouldn't be a hooker, but it is the world's oldest profession so I don't think it's going away. If we legalize it at least it would be more transparent and out in the open.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:25 PM
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40. No. We're saying: Admit it exists and regulate it.
Be as moral and concerned as you like, there will ALWAYS be prostitution. It CANNOT be eliminated. So if you have the smallest real concern for those women, and men, you will champion legalization so that they can be protected by laws, by unions, with all the rights of legally working citizens.

Moral outrage gets them NOTHING. They're still there.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:28 PM
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43. Exactly.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:27 PM
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42. I disagree
There are many escorts in this country who have CHOSEN to do what they do because it pays better than a "normal" job and they are comfortable with it. I have a very close friend who did it for a while to meet a financial goal she had, and she was in control of it. I made my best to find other options for her, until she asked me to stop because she was fine with what she was doing. Also had a friend who was a stripper who basically let men grab her naked body all over and she was fine with it because of the money she got.

Nobody is advocating slavery of any kind over here. Many sex workers do it because they choose to, and sadly many other don't. Forced prostitution is something all societies should fight against.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 09:47 PM
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55. I don't agree.
Many, if not most of these woman do it out of their own free will, making a lot of tax free money.

We are way too uptight about sex.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:10 PM
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9. "Thousands" of names, and NONE in the Bush Admin? Lies. One already resigned!
"Democratic lobbyists"?
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aspencer Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:11 PM
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11. Ooooo... I hope this gets good
15,000 phone numbers?!? I was shocked when I realized that I had over 700 numbers in my BlackBerry and I only sex with two of those people. LOL!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:13 PM
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16. I hope this helps end the hypocrisy
of those who vilify prostitution and its participants. Those who are against it the most (conservatives) tend to be the biggest clients.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:17 PM
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27. Welcome to DU.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:12 PM
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12. Well that was a waste of time
nt
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:15 PM
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21. What happened to Ross's earlier statements about a WH economist and a
conservative think tank president, ceo etc? Threats??????
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:17 PM
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28. If they delved into this
they'd be pressured into finding out if there were any government officials that Jimmy/Jeff Gannon/Guckert was servicing. I don't think they don't want to go there.
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:17 PM
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29. Something ROTTEN has happened to prevent them from naming names
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:18 PM
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31. That's my guess - ABC was threatened, and caved.
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:20 PM
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33. We need to get the Madam to post the list online we'd know the names of everyone in a day
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:21 PM
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35. we need the blogosphere to get on top of this. Sorry for the pun.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:12 PM
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13. Brian Ross claims no one of importance was on all those pages of
names. Now why don't I believe him? Many men are heaving a hefty sigh of relief right about now...
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:12 PM
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14. Is that all? n/t
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:13 PM
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15. Rip-off. No one prominent named other than the ones already outed...
:thumbsdown:
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:14 PM
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19. ???????????????????? How can that be? The Madam knows they're on the list that's the whole point
of handing tham over to 20/20
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:14 PM
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20. Wow
one more time I see how sexist the law can be.

charging for sex is not generally something a man can do therefore the law against prostitution only applies to women. They call the case "DC madam" not "the DC Johns". There is no mention of the crime of "soliciting prostitution" or "adultery."
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DawnIsis Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:16 PM
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25. There are gay prostitutes everywhere????? So there is no law against it?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:15 PM
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22. NO names?
They devoted an hour to NO names?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:18 PM
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30. They devoted an hour to covering Repub ass.
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:21 PM by Kurovski
Maybe.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:15 PM
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23. Don't seem to be naming any names
I would like to decide for myself whether the names are noteworthy or not. I worry for this woman.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:16 PM
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24. They said a career justice department prosecutor is on the list.
Hmm.....
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:17 PM
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26. What a total disappointment. Not a single new name!
"None of the names were newsworthy." EXCUSE ME? The head of a conservative think tank is not newsworthy?

Someone got "whispered" to.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:21 PM
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34. Stossel's report on guns was more informative
As much as I hate to say it.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:48 PM
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45. I thought it was a one sided NRA propaganda piece, myself.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:21 PM
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36. Yeah, what a piece of crap!!!......
All week they've been teasing and getting me all excited with anticipation....

And they pull this shit. Now I really need a "massage"

What's that lady's number? :evilgrin:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:22 PM
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37. Now we have our answer --ABC News PUNTED!! No new names!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:23 PM
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38. I tried to tell people this would happen
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:26 PM
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41. Bushco got rid of Rather, and they killed this story.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:44 PM
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44. Betcha Palfrey names some names Ross punted on...
... give it time, folks...
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:58 PM
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49. one escort worked for the law team represnting Monica Goodling.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:49 PM
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46. ok so i should skip it--yes?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:53 PM
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48. I haven't seen it but sounds like it isn't worth suffering through, Ross disappoints.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:52 PM
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47. Move along Move along folks, nothing to see here.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:11 PM
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50. Everybody here was ROOKED. Republicans win again.
Ever since this stuff was announced, DU'ers were licking their chops, waiting for all the Republicans this prostitution scandal would reveal. And then, when all of you tuned into "20/20" for the big reveal...there was nothing.

Nothing except John Stossel licking the heinies of his corporate sponsors, telling us that secondhand smoke doesn't exist and ethanol is a fraud and down is up.

Congratuations. You have been pwn3d. Guess there won't be any easy Democratic wins after all. Maybe you should all go back to work and canvas neighborhoods and pressure the Presidential candidates to actually earn the public's trust. 'Cause this scandal was a fraud.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:21 PM
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51. Nightline will discuss the DC Madam scandal.
But it looks like they will focus on the double standards.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:46 PM
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52. Nightline just said that she has 9 more years of phone numbers
that go back to the Clinton administration and plans are to release those names. They said this is far from over.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 11:13 PM
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53. important update- thanks
:hi:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 09:39 PM
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54. Ah, they're okay with the names of Democrats. Got it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 02:59 AM
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56. Oh yeah release those names
that go back to Clinton. Everyone knows that it's the Dems that are the sexual perverts and this just confirms it while rethugs have family values. :sarcasm:
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