Elizabeth R. to Dubya: "None of your business"

[CatWoman]

:rofl:

Kristof reports that in 1991, President George H.W. Bush invited Queen Elizabeth to the White House for a state banquet.

Barbara Bush introduced young George to the Queen. George W. told Her Majesty that his new cowboy boots were embroidered with the phrase "God Save the Queen." Barbara then explained that it was fear of such a remark that caused her to seat young George a safe distance from the Queen.

George then told the Queen that apparently he was the Bush family's black sheep. "Who's yours?" he queried. According to Kristof, Queen Elizabeth smiled and retorted, "None of your business."

http://www.midlandtexas.gov/midland/bush/bush.html

[GRLMGC]

1. So she was well aware that he was a tool from 1991

That makes for a good start.

[Octafish]

2. Perhaps we are ashamed of our NAZI uncle?

The royal turd had to resign the throne, not for his American divorcee squeeze, but for his affinity for all things Reich.

The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/naziroot.htm


Then again, the crazy monkey's uncle was one with the NAZIs.

[Darth_Kitten]

14. Liz is also only the de facto monarch...........

her ancestors assumed a throne that technically wasn't theirs to begin with, but I guess better a foreign interloper than a catholic on the throne. ;)

Her uncle was a weak man.

[CatWoman]

18. How is that, DK?

I'm not aware of this bit of history. :hi:

[madrchsod]

27. her line is german--Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxe-Coburg_and_Gotha

[Manifestor_of_Light]

39. Yes, her family used to be the House of Hanover. Prince Philip Battenberg.

And Phillip's family name was Battenberg; they changed it to Mountbatten.

Lilly Langtry had an affair with Louis Battenberg.

When Edward the VIII was asked why he spoke German, he said, "Ist mein Mutterspracht". It's my mother tongue. They generally all spoke German thru the first part of the 20th Century.

My dad's theory as to why Edward VIII resigned in 1936 was that he saw WW II coming, and didn't want to send troops to fight his cousins.

[starroute]

42. The Hanovers were as legimitate as most of them

The House of Stuart wasn't particularly prolific, so when both of James II's daughters (Queen Mary and then Queen Anne) died without surviving offspring, the British had a choice between accepting James' son, who was a Catholic, or reaching all the way back and over to the descendants of James I's daughter, who'd married the Prince of Bohemia. George I may have been a German, but he was the closest legitimate Protestant heir.

If Edward VIII considered German his mother tongue, it was because of his German father, Prince Albert, who'd married Queen Victoria, and not because of his Hanoverian lineage from 200 years earlier.

The Tudors, on the other hand, had a lot less to go on. Henry VII had no real right to the throne at all -- just some hashed-up claim involving his mother's second husband -- though he did marry a princess from the House of York, thereby insuring his descendants would at least have some royal blood.

[Darth_Kitten]

47. Well, to make a long story short.....

James II, who was catholic, had a son and heir with his second wife.

His daughter from his first marriage and her husband, William of Orange, were "invited" over from Holland to assume the throne.

This was in 1688. William and Mary ursurped the english throne. Mary died a few years later and William was sole ruler.

Fast forward to 1701, James II dies in exile in France. He did have a son to succeed him, but parliament passes the Act of Settlement, which bars catholics from succeeding to the English throne. 1702 William dies and James' daughter Anne succeeds. (but she has a brother, go figure) Anne was a bit of a dolt and a malicious character who betrayed her father probably even more than her sister and husband did.

Anyways, Anne dies in 1714 without any heirs, all of her children dying very young.
The throne goes to George I, bypassing dozens of catholics, including James' son.

To this day, no catholic can succeed to the english throne.


My interest in this (a bit of a history buff) is that James II was actually trying to bring about toleration for catholics and members of other religions but some members of the establishment saw this as too threatening. I've even read that he even made a speech in which he compared relgious intolerance to racial intolerance, that why should anybody be discriminated against for either their beliefs or skin colour.
But to this day, a lot of historians portray him as a bigot.

Well, that's that in a nutshell, I suppose. :)

[dave_p]

41. It's theirs

Parliament gave them the throne. It can take it away just as easily.

In fact English royal history's full of killings, depositions and usurpations. The notion that the present bunch have any less "right" than most of their predecessors is a bit far-fetched.

They're there because they more or less do the job Brits breed them for. If they don't, they'll be out.

[Darth_Kitten]

48. The reason their ancestors assumed the throne.........

changed a lot of things. In a roundabout way, what happened in Europe centuries ago had a lot to do with how our own countries (U.S. and Canada) were founded and formed.

But don't ask me for particulars, I'm still figuring it out myself. ;)

[nemo137]

49. If I remember correctly, there hasn't been an "English" monarch in centuries

You had the Plantagenets, who were French, then the Tudors, who were Welsh, then the Stuarts, who were Scottish, then the Hannovers, who were German, then Saxe-Coburg-Gotha/Windsor/Mountbatten line, who are also German. Granted, the circumstances around James' being dispossesed were a bit shadier than some of the others, but given the English paranoia about being returned to Catholicism/ put under Spanish control, pretty much understandable.

[Gman]

3. And Mr. Class and Grace is now the president

I'm sure the Queen has no plans for dinner at the WH... at least I hope not.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. There is a white tie state dinner Monday night....

for the queen.

:scared:

[GRLMGC]

5. I'm looking forward to the photographs

that come out of that one. Oh the embarassment!

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. I wonder which curtains Pickles will wear....

And what craphead will slop on his white tie?

[GRLMGC]

7. It's guaranteed to be comedy gold nt

[poverlay]

33. That curtains remark is bloody hilarious. I almost fell off the couch... Thanks:) nt

[Gman]

8. OMG! You're right! and he's getting etiquette lessons

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/04/america/04queen.php

I'm sure Ms. Manners is not answering her phone, suddenly out of the country and running as far and as fast as she can like the devil from holy water!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

12. Hey Sheila, now I'm not all that fond of the Brit Royal Family, but

the fact that Liz has sit through a dinner with that cretin and his Stepford wife, even makes me cringe...

[greatauntoftriplets]

16. I am not either....

But I'd love to be a fly on the wall. As someone responded to me downthread, it should be comedy gold.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

24. How bout it, I can't wait for pictures of it and the captioning that will

follow. I'm sure I'll be :rofl: :rofl:

[greatauntoftriplets]

26. Let us hope so....

:evilgrin:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. Oh Catwoman! This is too funny! I just posted an OP with the same thing! Didn't see your post!

:rofl:

I love this story!

Going to self-delete my post now!

[CatWoman]

15. our wacky, wacky president!!

:hi:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. lol!

:hi:

[dflprincess]

10. Young George?? He must have been about 45 in 1991

n/t

[CrazyOrangeCat]

29. yup.

welcome to the Twilight Zone.

[Lisa]

11. she might say "we've checked -- it's still you" (apparently they are distantly related)

Okay, so she's very polite and she probably wouldn't tell him that. But she might be thinking it .... especially when Georgie compares himself to Winston Churchill. She actually knew that man -- and George W. Bush definitely ISN'T Winston Churchill.

[WinkyDink]

13. Maybe he'll give EII a shoulder massage.

[Cha]

17. What the hell is the Queen of England

even doing over here visiting the chimphouse?

[ElizabethDC]

21. A diplomatic visit

she's technically England's Head of State.

[Cha]

25. Aren't they suppose to be

distantly related?

Queen of England trying to bring some diplomacy to the frat house.

[UTUSN]

19. That's why he didn't want to have a white-tie dinner for the old queen n/t

[Cha]

23. Still holding his pissy little

grudge.

[Kadie]

20. My husband just reminded me of this story: Queen's fury as Bush goons wreck garden

GROUND FARCE 1
Queen's fury as Bush goons wreck garden
Exclusive By Terry O'Hanlon 23/11/2003

THE Queen is furious with President George W. Bush after his state visit caused thousands of pounds of damage to her gardens at Buckingham Palace.

snip...
The rotors of the President's Marine Force One helicopter and two support Black Hawks damaged trees and shrubs that had survived since Queen Victoria's reign.

And Bush's army of clod-hopping security service men trampled more precious and exotic plants.

The Queen's own flock of flamingoes, which security staff insisted should be moved in case they flew into the helicopter rotors, are thought to be so traumatised after being taken to a "place of safety" that they might never return home.

The historic fabric of the Palace was also damaged as high-tech links were fitted for the US leader and his entourage during his three-day stay with the Queen.

The Palace's head gardener, Mark Lane, was reported to be in tears when he saw the scale of the damage.

"The Queen has every right to feel insulted at the way she has been treated by Bush," said a Palace insider.

snip...
The Americans made alterations to accommodate specialised equipment. The mass of gadgetry meant the Royals couldn't get a decent TV picture during the visit.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/content_objectid=13652625_method=full_siteid=106694_headline=-GROUND-FARCE-1-name_page.html

[madrchsod]

28. i wonder why she does`t demand security like his?

after all the never sets on the empire...

[CrazyOrangeCat]

32. yep. that's what she's mad about.

tearing up elderly ladies' gardens should be a capital crime.

off with that pointed head.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

34. Just what you'd expect from our dumb-ass country that has damaged

priceless archeological sites in Iraq.

[peacefreak]

22. I'm sure she is even fonder of him.

Remember the last time he stayed at the Palace? He made outrageous security demands & tore up the Royal lawn.

[kskiska]

30. Yeah, but he did get dressed for dinner

though I wonder if he had his boots on.

[Decruiter]

31. "You know, I have a throne, too!"

[symbolman]

37. Aren't they worried that

someone will Mistake Laura for a COUCH and SIT on her?

Best to keep her moving, stand over by the drapes where she'll be safe, camoflauge for the rest of her outfit :)

[Mend]

46. Larva and Phil have the same glassy-pasted Xanax smiles...

and the Queen is telling chimp not to pick his nose again at dinner.

[bumblebee1]

35. The bigger question is

How will Prince Phillip deal with *? I understand he doesn't suffer fools gladly.

[GRLMGC]

36. Check these out

They're a good imagining of what might have happened when Bush paid a state visit to the UK in 2003. Frighteningly authentic. I wonder what Bush's journals will end up looking like when they are released. Probably like these except in crayon.

Day One: http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2003_11_19_5513...
Day Two: http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2003_11_20_4406...
Day Three: http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2003_11_21_0357...
Day Four: http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2003_11_22_3647...

[Manifestor_of_Light]

38. This may be as much fun to watch as Charles and Camilla when they were here.

I remember those horrendous pictures where Charles looked like a vampire goosing Laura and Laura looked positively manic!! The rusty orange dress and the way over the top golden topaz necklace.

Camilla looked positively classy in black velvet and a not terribly flashy but undoubtedly high quality necklace with a large tear drop diamond.

[Swamp Rat]

40. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

:rofl: ... lower than a court jester! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[CatWoman]

44. Swampy!!!

:hi:

[maine_raptor]

45. Will George try to put Her Majesty at ease on Monday night

by giving her one of his famous back-rubs?