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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:28 PM
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Question about Mine Rescues
Okay... the military has robots that can scout in hostile areas and transmit images back to their controllers. When there's a mine disaster or earthquake, why can't they use those robots - or similar ones - to go in and check for survivors? They could have lowered a 'bot into that mine to scout for survivors even while it was filled with methane.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:50 PM
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1. Who knows? Perhaps they did. Here's a link showing MSHAs rescue robot --->
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 10:56 PM by Petrushka
http://www.msha.gov/SagoMine/robotdetails.asp


Edited to add:

And here's a link to an article relative to mine rescue teams
at Montcoal wherein the MSHA rescue robot is mentioned as being available --->

http://www.register-herald.com/local/x1612530723/A-further-look-into-mine-rescue-training
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:42 PM
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2. Maybe with all the methane gas that only needs a spark
to explode, the robot being metal might cause a spark when running into a rock accidentally. Then there could be a problem with the electronics around volatile gas.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:45 PM
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3. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. (eom)
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:51 PM
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7. Electronics are made "explosion-proof" all the time for use in highly-explosive atmospheres...
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 07:53 PM by Tesha
...like grain elevators, chemical plants, and gas stations. Google "NEMA 7"
for more details.

And beryllium-copper is a strong but non-sparking metal alloy.

In other words, we *COULD* build perfectly safe mine rescue robots if
we wanted too, but we'd rather spend (say) $385 Billion on fighter
aircraft than a few millions on mine safety and rescue.

Human life doesn't have much value in this cuntry.

Tesha
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:47 PM
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4. Probably because they knew they were all dead as soon as it happened. n/t
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:20 PM
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5. Thanks!
That makes sense, that they were afraid of a spark or a short blowing the whole place up. But, I'm glad to know that MSHA does have a rescue robot available.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:49 PM
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6. The poor range of radio signals in the mine shafts
might be one of the reasons.
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