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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:37 PM
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Honey Bee Deaths Linked To Pesticides.....
.. well gee.. let's see.. 30 years of Republican De-regulation...

What happens when the Repukes dont get their vegetables? Will they send their butlers and maids to the farmers market to buy what little food is left? Why do Republicans think they can foul their own nest ...and it doesn't matter?

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100324/ap_on_sc/us_food_and_farm_disappearing_bees


Bayer Crop Science started petitioning the agency to approve a new pesticide for sale in 2006. After reviewing the company's studies of its effects on bees, the EPA gave Bayer conditional approval to sell the product two years later, but said it had to carry a label warning that it was "potentially toxic to honey bee larvae through residues in pollen and nectar."

The Natural Resources Defense Council sued, saying the agency failed to give the public timely notice for the new pesticide application. In December, a federal judge in New York agreed, banning the pesticide's sale and earlier this month, two more judges upheld the ruling.


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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:44 PM
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1. everytime i see pesticides for sale in stores it makes my blood boil... bunch of horrible chemicals
that the average joe shouldnt be allowed to spray all over the commons just to have a "green" lawn.

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:52 PM
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3. Me Too - Trying To Get My Neighbors To Go Organic, 2 are this Year
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:47 PM
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2. k&r
:dem: :dem: :dem:
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zbiker Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:53 PM
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4. honestly, this has been
covered to death, don,t believe everything you read and then run here to post it, check around first. maybe start here
http://www.beesource.com/forums/index.php

then if you really want to blame a party for trying to kill off something check into the sugar beet seed crop scandal that will likely destroy our u.s. based sugar production as early as next year.
I'm no repuke lover but man, cant we keep the feds out of our food supply so we can sustain ourselves ??
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:35 PM
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6. The story is old, but it has not been "covered to death". Anything but!
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 07:38 PM by cascadiance
This issue certainly doesn't get the coverage deserved or something more would be done about the usage of pesticides, etc. Perhaps Laura Flanders on GRIT Tv about a week ago having a segment on a recent documentary "Vanishing of the Bees" helped get this story to be put up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4WLFNkse3I

Yes, I remember even almost two years ago feeling very bad when a beekeeper told me he had to kill off a hive of bees that had invaded the jacuzzi in my yard before I left San Diego instead of rescuing them to move them someplace more hospitable to them. But of course they were just saying that they were "vanishing", but not many people have been talking about "why" that is. And I think there's a reason for that.

Yes, sugar beet plants are threatened. So are bananas as well from modern farming "practices" too.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/060517_bananafrm.htm

And these are the threatened segments of life that we are hearing about. One wonders how many are also threatened that we don't know about yet.

We need to get these talked about more. Don't fault him/her for posting this story.
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zbiker Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:36 PM
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12. true, i probably should
have been more tacktfull here, if the proper research had been done by the poster he would have discovered that the bayer connection in all of this has pretty much been covered " litterly" to death by us (the beekeepers and the bee science techs). i should probably point out as well the the occurrences of ccd ( coloney collapse disorder) is more a product of migratory hives moved from site to site for the express purpose of pollinating crops ( at least that is one theory among many) as well as the use of chemical mite treatments and large cell starter frames vs natural cell. at least that seems to be the trend. we have pretty much discovered that that minute amounts of pesticides ,whether man made or natural, will always be present in a hive. truth be told the reason most of the bee losses in cal. this year are probably due to having a harder winter that usual. while hives elsewhere in the u.s. are on the rebound to a great extent.
ccd has been blamed on a lot of different elements by a lot of different people with a lot of different agendas, and postings of this kind just help spread the environmental alarmists agenda more than any other.
my main concern was to simply to get folks to educate themselves on the truth in this realm before they start writing their congressman in a panick and demanding they take over the bee business as a whole like they have done to the banking and auto industries.

I think you missed the point on the sugar beet issue as well, i am referring to the holdup on roundup ready beet seed that is being mulled over in the federal courts right now threatening to put almost an entire nation (ours) out of the sugar business because of a short sighted grower and a handful of environmentalist cant seem to agree on the fact that if one fella grows organic seed one year his neighbor can grow roundup ready the next and have no fear of cross pollination because beet seed is only produced every other year.......
personally i never eat bananas :)
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HippieCowgirl Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:04 PM
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5. Another headline from the, "No Shit." Department k&R
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:39 PM
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7. Well.. why hasn't anything been done? If.. as you say....
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:47 PM
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8. maybe it's another "long emergency" thing (k &r)
If people hear the story mentioned a few times, without understanding what it could someday mean to them, then they stop listening. Like problems with the oceans.. a lot of people can't imagine how crap there could effect their lives. This doesn't say much for our species.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:00 PM
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9. Some Ohio bee keepers lost 70 percent of their hive - link.....
Ohio honeybees face scary spring
Numbers thinned by unexplained deaths, hard winter
Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:54 AM
By Misti Crane

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/25/scary-spring.html?sid=101

Honeybees continue to struggle for survival in Ohio and throughout the nation, putting in peril the well-being of everything from California almonds to backyard cucumbers.

As the weather has warmed, beekeepers checking into their hives have been finding significant numbers of dead bees, sometimes in the 70 percent range, said Barry Conrad, a Canal Winchester beekeeper.

"It might be the worst in history," said Conrad, who like other beekeepers has come to expect a 30percent loss over the winter, up from the 10 percent he used to expect.

Though colder-than-normal weather is being blamed for bee losses in warmer climates, the losses here are more likely being exacerbated by limited honey in the hives over the winter, Conrad said. Snow, in and of itself, isn't a problem and might even serve as an insulator.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:34 PM
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10. I have been saying for YEARS the new class of synthetic pesticides is responsible for bee colony
collapse I have seen not only honey bees coming back but wasps and hornets which too disappeared for the past few years since there are better controls on these pesticides.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:31 AM
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11. Duh.
Breaking News...Insecticides KILL insects!
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