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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:57 PM
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 01:58 PM by Ian David
Over the weekend, the tea party protests organized by corporate lobbyist-run groups Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks were scenes of violence and hate towards gay and African American Democratic members of Congress. Around the same time, acts of vandalism have occurred around the country against local Democratic Party offices and against Democratic members of Congress. As the Washington Post reported today, some of the vandalism appears to have been instigated by an Alabama blogger, Mike Vanderboegh, who encouraged his readers to throw bricks at the windows of Democratic headquarters across the country.

Vanderboegh is a member of an Alabama militia group who is headlining an open-carry gun rally in Northern Virginia next month. In an interview with Alan Colmes yesterday, Vanderboegh justified his call for vandalism and said the attacks are warning shots because people like him will next threaten the life of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and fight health reform with a thousand little Wacos:

VANDERBOEGH: I am telling you we are motivated to break windows, we feel a deadly threat from the Federal government and the orders that the Democrat party has given us.

<snip>

VANDERBOEGH: May I tell you my personal motive for doing this? Im trying to save the lives of Nancy Pelosi, and every one of these people who do not understand the unintended consequences of their actions. <...> Because they are not paying attention to the million of people across this deepening divide that politics no longer avails them. <...> We refuse to participate in the system, and we refuse to pay the fines, and we refuse arrest. Now where do you suppose thats going but a thousand little Wacos.

More:
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/25/violence-tea-party /


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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:00 PM
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1. That will be easy to prevent, just gather a thousand names from every state's sex offender list.
So now the teabaggers want to start cults, molest children and get into shootouts with police?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:01 PM
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2. This is REMARKABLE
VANDERBOEGH: May I tell you my personal motive for doing this? Im trying to save the lives of Nancy Pelosi, and every one of these people who do not understand the unintended consequences of their actions. <...> Because they are not paying attention to the million of people across this deepening divide that politics no longer avails them. <...> We refuse to participate in the system, and we refuse to pay the fines, and we refuse arrest. Now where do you suppose thats going but a thousand little Wacos.


Read that again folks, because this is exactly what leads to civil wars... when a SMALL GROUP feels that they are fully and completely cornered and have well no choice and shit.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:33 PM
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34. As i said in another thread on this topic:
Damn...we really are in a civil war.

Seriously.

Not necessarily a North/South Civil war, but a Regan/Gingrich/Norquist seeded war.

States rights/ 10th Amendment/Abortion/Church values versus.....everyone else, I guess.

Republicans trying to shut down Congressional hearings and blocking the legislative process,
forcing people into "either/or" narrowly defined camps, using Tea Party morans for
threats of violence.
This is no longer a fringe and laughable activity.
Rove has been working for years to make all Republican statehouses.
He is succeeding.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:02 PM
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40. Haven't I said this for yaers
We are in the middle of a COLD civil war that is turning hot, like they do in time.

And states rights... this is not that far from the reasons for the second civil war (the first was the war of independence)

It was over states rights, and slavery.

This is gonna be over states rights and abortion... as well as ironically the expansion of civil rights.

And a few historians will have fun, but will also struggle to get why. The first two are very well documented. This one... well the web is quite fungible as well as email
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:01 PM
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3. They are weirdly obsessed with Pelosi
I keep hearing right wing nutters saying 'Pelosi's Congress', Pelosi's Democrats'.

They seem obsessed with using her name. Wonder if it's because she's a woman or her name sounds non-anglo? Everytime I hear it, it sounds like a deliberate attempt to turn her name into some sort of slur.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:09 PM
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15. They certainly are. My old man still rants about her constantly.
But his most visceral hatred is still reserved for Al Gore.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:11 PM
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17. They just can't remember anything else.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:11 PM
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18. It's because she's a powerful woman
That seems to scare insecure men. Think of all the invective lobbed at Hillary.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:49 PM
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24. I have always thought they harbored real hatred toward her because she is a woman
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:55 PM
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25. She's a woman, she's a powerful Democrat, and she's from San Francisco.
It's like the fucking crazy-making trifecta for 'em.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:27 PM
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32. "the fucking crazy-making trifecta for 'em"
:rofl:

amen to that!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:52 PM
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42. She's a woman they don't want to fuck that they can't ignore.
They HATE that.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:01 PM
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4. A thousand little Wacos? Maybe he meant a thousand little Whackos.
That would be more like it.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:04 PM
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30. Yeah If I remeber right Waco didn't turn out so well for the right wingers
Gotta wonder why they want to revisit that..
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:03 PM
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5. If I am remembering it right, the anti-government crazies got their asses
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:03 PM by old mark
handed to them at Waco.

Do they really want to do that a thousand times?


mark
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:06 PM
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8. Well, I don't condone the specifics of the BDs, but am strongly opposed to what our govt/media did
... re how that was handled
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:28 PM
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23. I absolutely agree with You..
That was when I lost my trust..(naivete)..
where my guvment was concerned.

Bumbersticker in Austin:
"Is Your religion atf approved?"
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:37 PM
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35. No "religion" that makes full auto guns out of semi-autos, illegally, and stockpiles said guns
is "approved" by ATF. ATF agents, trying to execute a search warrant for said illegal full auto conversion weapons, were murdered that day by that "religion."

And you somehow think that bumpersticker is good?

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:03 PM
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6. This Little Wretch, Sir, Needs To Be Taken Up Into The System, Pour Encourager Les Autres
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:05 PM
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7. Conspiracy IS still against the law, isn't it?
Same goes for Bachmann urging people to not fill out the census.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:09 PM
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12. He Certainly Needs To be Questioned, Sir, About His Associations And Associates....
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:10 PM by The Magistrate
Something like that can take days....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:01 PM
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37. I think there were people who got put on the "No-Fly" list for peacefully protesting the Iraq War.
Think that will happen with any of these folks? I'm not going to hold my breath.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:20 AM
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41. She'll lose her seat if there's an undercount in her district.
It's win/win for everyone.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:07 PM
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9. Correction:
a thousand little WACKOS.

Bring it on, asswipes.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:08 PM
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10. Why don't they go after John McCain.
He dreamed up the mandate in the first place.

Vanderbreough is just a Republican sap. Like all Republicans.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:08 PM
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11. "A thousand little Waco's" - is that supposed to SCARE us, lol?
IIRC, only RW nuts (and their unfortunate children) died at Waco.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:09 PM
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13. That means a thousand shitty little made-for-TV specials, too though. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:58 PM
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27. More like a thousand little whackos.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:00 PM
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28. Just a typo! I think you're right (nt)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:09 PM
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14. Re-re-re-posting:
from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

Terrorism:
"the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes."
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:42 PM
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36. Patriot Act definition
Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover ""domestic,"" as opposed to international, terrorism.
A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act ""dangerous to human life"" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.

Additionally, there is seizure of assets even if there is no conviction:

Section 806 of the Act could result in the civil seizure of their assets without a prior hearing, and without them ever being convicted of a crime. It is by far the most significant change of which political organizations need to be aware. Section 806 amended the civil asset forfeiture statute to authorize the government to seize and forfeit: all assets, foreign or domestic (i) of any individual, entity, or organization engaged in planning or perpetrating any act of domestic or international terrorism against the United States, or their property, and all assets, foreign or domestic, affording any person a source of influence over any such entity or organization or (ii) acquired or maintained by any person with the intent and for the purpose of supporting, planning, conducting, or concealing an act of domestic or international terrorism against the United States, citizens or residents of the United States or their property or (iii) derived from, involved in, or used or intended to be used to commit any act of domestic or international terrorism against the United States, citizens or residents of the United States, or their property.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:13 PM
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39. Thank you!
Any way you slice it, it's terrorism
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:10 PM
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16. I guess this mean that they're all going to perish
in a fiery inferno and leave behind nothing but the impression that they were all just a bunch of kooks. Meh, oh well, couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:11 PM
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19. A thousand little pedophiles commiting mass suicide?
Perish the thought.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:12 PM
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20. Don't they have some john waynish :puke: :dukie: crap planned for
DC on Waco anniversary date?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:14 PM
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21. "...we refuse arrest."
:rofl:
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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:18 PM
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22. Mike Vanderboegh


Despite his charges of socialism and fascism against government-sponsored social programs, Vanderboegh is reportedly dependent on Social Security Disability benefits.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20100323/NE...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:57 PM
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26. The face of the Republican Party.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:03 PM
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29. Frankly I think they are big wackos
and there are more than a thousand of them
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:20 PM
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31. I think they mean a 1000 little WACKOS.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:27 PM
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33. To the millions who don't want the HRC, there are millions more that do! Majority rules, get over it
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:06 PM
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38. Remeber how we used to hear that "elections have consequences"?
Oh, yeah, Bush steals a couple (or, at bests, ekes out a win) and he's got a "mandate" to do whatever-the-fuck-he-wants.

But Obama can't sneeze without the express permission of the Dino-riding Jesus and Ayn Rand brigades. Right.
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