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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:51 PM
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Hoyer is giving press conference right now re: the threats
He said that there have been 10 threats made. He wants to make a joint statement against the threats with Republican leadership.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:52 PM
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1. He also just referred to the crosshair images
Evidently, Palin is the only one using such imagery right now according to MSNBC.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:52 PM
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2. just watched it. I hope the FBI and others are taking the threats very seriously.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:57 PM
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5. Someone needs to yank Palin's chain and wake her up
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 01:57 PM by eleny
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:28 PM
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16. That's one member of that right wing kennnel
who desperately needs a choke chain.

I still think someone high profile will have to be assassinated by one of the loons they're whipping into a frenzy before anyone starts taking the violent right seriously.

Until then, expect the FBI to keep focusing on Raging Grannies and Quakers.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:33 PM
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20. Or bomb a federal building in Oklahoma
oh, wait...
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:39 PM
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24. But that would be
an unfortunate, isolated incident totally unprovoked by someone who was mentally disturbed, such a pity, these things happen and simply can't be blamed on anyone using their freedom of speech to simply talk about killing people or innocent and playful cross-hair imagery.

:sarcasm:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:42 PM
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27. Are you sure she can be woke up
I'm not
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:29 PM
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17. They are, but they ain't gonna go into details on how they do
their work.

Trust me, some of the details are REAL creepy. Suffice it to say, you betcha a few of the militias are highly infiltrated.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:53 PM
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3. Threats aren't as scary as what's churning around under the water that we
don't see.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:56 PM
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4. A gas line was already cut - the brother of a Congressman
Police are investigating but earlier reports say that the line appears to have been deliberately cut.

This is all just so horrible.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:22 PM
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14. I heard about that -- that a blogger had printed this Congressman's address
and suggested that the fellow bloggers 'drop by and thank him' for his HCR vote. Prob was, it was the congressman's brother's address.

But things like this, if blogs are monitored (a resident Agent Mike), at least are out there if law enforcement wants to act.

The people planning in secret are the ones who frighten me more.

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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:57 PM
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6. I'm afraid that things aren't going to change until a member of Congress
is severely injured or worse. I think that's the only thing that MAY wake some of these GOP goons up and make them assume some responsibility for the poison.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:58 PM
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8. I think we're all worried about that
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:38 PM
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22. I think you're correct. I have such a sense of deep dread.
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 02:38 PM by calimary
I'm afraid these assholes won't stop until someone is killed. And then they'll feign piety and horror and disavow all of this and say they had nothing to do with it. And they'll put their guns down for about 20 minutes, and then when they think the heat's off, they'll go directly back and get started yet again.

What was that thread here quoting a Holocaust survivor who shook her head in sad disbelief and said "the monsters never go away"?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:28 PM
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15. You assume they have a conscience and moral compass.
I don't.

John Boehner's response: "Violence is not the American way." Is that it, John? Is that all you have to say? Really?

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:35 PM
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21. Did Boehner REALLY say that?
Holy shit, where the fuck has he been living all his life? Violence is surely the American way. If you're worried about a religious takeover of the country, it's already happened, and we live in the land of the High Church of Redemptive Violence. We use violence as a first resort, last resort, and every resort in between. We can't go five minutes without violence being employed as the solution to a problem, real or imagined. Out of every dollar spent from the U.S. Treasury, well over half goes to the means and methods of violence, or paying interest on debt incurred to purchase more means and methods of violence.

Boehner must be a congenital idiot to make such a fatuous statement.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:44 PM
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28. At least Boehner can say he denounced the violence.
:sarcasm:

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:30 PM
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19. Oh com'on you think that stopped the first civil war?
I mean that...

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:58 PM
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29. I don't think it would make any difference to most of the republicans
remember how some of them wished other Democrats suffered from brain cancer like Ted Kennedy. How gross and unfeeling can that be. But when people didn't follow cheney and rush and kiss the ground the walked on when they were sick they talked about Democratic insensitivity.

There is also no reason why the blogger owned website who posted he wanted to kill President Obama isn't sitting in a padded cell right now with no chance of bail.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:57 PM
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7. Criminal Threats can be charged as a FELONY in California...
I wonder how many other states have this sort of law...



The 5 Elements of a Criminal or Terrorist Threats

California Penal Code Section 422

1 - The accused willfully threatened to unlawfully kill or unlawfully inflict great bodily injury on another person

2 - The accused made the threat with the specific intent that it be taken as a threat

3 - The threat is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey a gravity of purpose and the immediate prospect of execution (the person was very clear and specific about carrying out the threat)

4 - The threat actually caused sustained fear in the victim (for "a period of time that extends beyond what is momentary, fleeting, or transitory")

5 - The sustained fear was reasonable
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:00 PM
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9. Ooops - a DU burp
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 02:01 PM by eleny
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:00 PM
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10. Perriello's brother lives in Virginia - Albermarle County
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 02:00 PM by eleny
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0310/719066.html

Schuster just reported that the line was determined by authorities to have been slashed on purpose.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:30 PM
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18. That is scary as all hell...
Looks like a class 6 felony in VA... upon initial information... jeez... these idiots are really dangerous! They better get the book thrown at them or it will all serve to empower more dangerous stupidity! Criminal stupidity should be against the law... everywhere!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:02 PM
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11. MSNBC: 10 members of Congress have asked for additional security
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 02:02 PM by eleny
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:06 PM
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12. Is this a sad state of affairs, or what?
The greatest country in the world, reduced to this kind of BS.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:10 PM
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13. Schuster just had a Teabagger guest on who asserted that it's being done by Democrats
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:39 PM
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25. The media giving insignificant nut-job idiots a forum bears responsibility for this too...
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:38 PM
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23. What makes this especially sickening is that it's over health care
health care! not any of the horrible and illegal things done by the previous administration like TORTURE and illegally invading a sovereign nation. Nope - they are inciting violence over sick children not being denied medical insurance. Boggles the mind, truly.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:41 PM
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26. Two powerful things
The power of propaganda and RACISM. Those children that would be denied coverage MIGHT be minority children, that's enough for tea bagging fools to have no concern about that at all.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 03:02 PM
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30. Minority children are not the only ones now be denied coverage
Think of the 10% of the people in this country unemployed. Some had high paying jobs, some had just about anything and lost it. So they didn't start out as a minority they had good benefit high paying jobs. But then the nuts say they could have a job if they wanted one. WHERE IN THE HELL IN THIS COUNTRY are there the type of jobs that used to be available that provided health benefits and good money to people...I'll tell you in China, Mexico and India...where the big corporations pay a pittance to the worker and no benefits.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 03:16 PM
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31. I did not mean to imply that I thought they were
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 03:18 PM by get the red out
But that is how the tea party idiots think, THEY don't want anyone not white getting anything, bottom line. I certainly know better, I grew up in the mountains of Eastern Kentucky, the only poor people I saw growing up were white. But I believe that these tea party fools have it in their heads that they want to make sure minority folks do not get access to anything if they can help it, this is their mentality as I see it. And if some poor white kid in Johnson Co Kentucky, where I grew up, doesn't have coverage either in their world, they probably view it as just the cost of doing business and fighting "socialism".

I just think there is a STRONG racist component to the tea party movement.
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