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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:53 AM
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Congressman Dan Lipinski (D-IL 3rd) Votes No & Comes Down On The Wrong Side Of History.....
Congressman (not a deserving title) Lipinski again makes the wrong decision. His legacy will be that he voted against the single most important bill to come before the Congress in his tenure in the House. When you read his statement - you would think that it was a statement from a Repub. He might as well be. I am totally disgusted with this guy. He doesn't have a feeling for the people in his district. It was stated in the March 21, 2010 Sunday Chicago Sun-Times that 57,500 of the constituents in his district were uninsured. He wrote them off. We in his district are only lucky that 219 other Dems voted to pass this bill. Are we totally happy with this bill - no. It could have been a lot better. But that does not mean that it should be voted against. If this guy had any smarts - he would have voted to pass the bill and then work his ass off to make it better. But No - he gave up. He voted "NO" and now he'll have to live with that legacy.

It is time to replace this DINO. We need to support a 'progressive' primary challenger the next time he is up for re-election and put this guy on the unemployment line. We need a real Congressman in this district - one that will support his/her/our party and his/her/our President.

Here is his statement that was sent by e-mail and received by me at 11:48pm - very soon after his vote. He is proud of what he did - I guess.

Today, Congressman Dan Lipinski (D-IL 3rd) released the following statement regarding his decision to vote against the Senate health care bill:

“My decision to vote against the Senate health care bill is the result of months of studying our broken health care system, developing and analyzing various proposals for reform, studying legislation, and listening closely to my constituents. I want to thank each and every one of the thousands of Third District residents who contacted me by phone, fax, email, and in person to share their views for and against the bill.

“As I have said many times, I strongly believe reform is needed to lower soaring health care costs and make insurance coverage more affordable and accessible for individuals and working families. But reform must be done right. The Senate bill does make a number of improvements to our health care system, including expanding access and reforming health insurance by doing such things as immediately banning discrimination based on pre-existing conditions for children, prohibiting lifetime coverage limits, and banning rescissions. Unfortunately, the bill also contains a number of serious flaws, and many of the good aspects could have been done without passing this massive bill. The Senate bill does not do enough to lower the skyrocketing cost of health care, cuts more than $400 billion from Medicare, is not fiscally sustainable over the long term, and breaks with the status quo by providing federal funding for abortion and abortion coverage. This bill was also! marred by backroom deals that benefit pharmaceutical companies and other special interests. In the final analysis, I cannot support such a deeply flawed bill.

“Last November, after successfully fighting to make numerous improvements to the initial House health care bill, I voted to move the measure forward. I did so because I did not want to give up on reform, and because I believed we might still be able to fix the flaws in the bill before a final vote. However, I made my position very clear at the time, stating: ‘If this bill does not improve when it comes back from the Senate, I will vote against it.’ Unfortunately, the final bill is in many ways worse, not better, than the House legislation.

“To deserve the name of reform, a bill of this magnitude ought to make major progress on reducing health care costs, which continue to increase at unsustainable rates. Since 1980, overall spending on health care has risen on average at almost twice the rate of inflation, and per capita health care spending is nearly double what it was 10 years ago. Unless we address these increases, health care will continue to gobble up more and more of people’s income, and more and more of our tax dollars, until we reach a breaking point. Government subsidies alone cannot solve the problem of the increasing burden that skyrocketing health care costs impose on middle class Americans. We must change payment incentives for providers and this bill does not accomplish that.

“As the Congressional Budget Office has stated, the Senate health care bill would do little to affect the cost of premiums for those who currently get their health care through large employers. Since 70 percent of Americans who are not on Medicare are in this group, this bill fails to sufficiently reduce costs for the majority of working families in the Third District. The Senate bill also does not include several specific measures that were in the House bill that could increase competition. These include the elimination of the health insurance industry’s anti-trust exemption and a provision to begin to require health care providers to disclose their prices.

“I am also concerned that the bill’s more than $400 billion in Medicare cuts could have ramifications for seniors in my district. For instance, the Senate bill reduces Medicare reimbursements to providers – such as hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and home health agencies – by over $200 billion. The Chief Actuary of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services has stated that these cuts would likely result in roughly 20 percent of providers becoming unprofitable; this could lead to providers refusing to take care of seniors on Medicare. And if these cuts are going to be made to Medicare, the money should at least be put in the Medicare Trust Fund instead of being spent elsewhere as this bill does. In addition, unlike the House bill, the Senate bill does not allow the government to negotiate for lower drug prices, which I have long supported.

“I am also greatly concerned about the impact of this bill on our ballooning deficit. While the Congressional Budget Office has stated that the bill would officially reduce the deficit, close inspection of this analysis reveals serious problems. The CBO counts as deficit reduction over $70 billion in premiums that will be paid into the newly created CLASS Act. This well-intentioned program to provide long-term care for people with disabilities should be keeping this money in a trust fund to pay out future benefits instead of being spent elsewhere. And even if these premiums were kept in a trust fund, CBO states that the CLASS Act is fiscally unsustainable after two decades, when benefit payouts will significantly overwhelm the premiums coming in. Further, $29 billion in increased Social Security receipts are counted towards deficit reduction although they ought to remain in the Social Security Trust Fund.!

“The bill also does not address this year’s scheduled 21 percent cut in Medicare reimbursements to doctors; when Congress votes to do this, likely later this year, it will cost over $200 billion over the next 10 years. Also, the CBO score assumes that in later years, the growth in federal subsidies would suddenly be allowed to decline, and that the tax on middle-class insurance plans – which I and many others already oppose – would be expanded. If Congress will not do these things today, why would it do so tomorrow? Taken together, these elements more than wipe out the supposed savings.

“Finally, of great concern to me and to a significant majority of my constituents, this bill changes current federal policy and provides funding for abortion. This is not acceptable. It is in direct contradiction of the Hyde Amendment, which for more than three decades has prohibited federally funded abortion. First, the bill allows federal funds to subsidize health plans in the insurance exchanges that cover abortion. For any insurance plan that receives federal subsidies and provides abortion, all participants would be required to contribute at least $1 per month that would fund abortion services, regardless of whether they want abortion coverage or not. It also opens the door for Community Health Centers receiving federal funding under the bill to use that money to pay for abortion. I do not believe the last minute effort to address these concerns through an Executive Order is sufficient because there ! is every indication that federal courts would strike down this order, and the order could be repealed at any time in the future.

For all of these reasons, I cannot support the health care bill. I am deeply disappointed that Congress did not develop a better bill. But whatever this bill’s fate, I will not stop fighting against special interests and for improvements to our health care system that will benefit all of the residents of the Third District. And in the days, weeks, and months ahead, I will continue working to create jobs and revive our economy."
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:01 AM
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1. There's no excuse for this blue dog in a heavily Dem district.
He could vote like a socialist and get re-elected in his district. Yet he brags about going against Obama again and again. His next primary is two years away. The only thing for Dems to do is support an independent or Green this year, and encourage party leaders to draw him out in the redistricting process. He's a machine hack who never should have been appointed to daddy's seat.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:22 AM
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2. What is your aswer to his list of problems?
Or is it just easier to claim he's a DINO (despite the fact that his objections - other that the single aside about abortion - are objections that ANY rational person might have...even real live liberals)?
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:24 AM
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3. forget DINO he sounds like a repub!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:28 AM
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4. They sound awfully familiar.
And they aren't objections I've been hearing from liberals.
This guy has a history and he's no liberal.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:59 AM
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11. These are DINO arguments?
“To deserve the name of reform, a bill of this magnitude ought to make major progress on reducing health care costs, which continue to increase at unsustainable rates. Since 1980, overall spending on health care has risen on average at almost twice the rate of inflation, and per capita health care spending is nearly double what it was 10 years ago. Unless we address these increases, health care will continue to gobble up more and more of people’s income, and more and more of our tax dollars, until we reach a breaking point. Government subsidies alone cannot solve the problem of the increasing burden that skyrocketing health care costs impose on middle class Americans. We must change payment incentives for providers and this bill does not accomplish that.

“As the Congressional Budget Office has stated, the Senate health care bill would do little to affect the cost of premiums for those who currently get their health care through large employers. Since 70 percent of Americans who are not on Medicare are in this group, this bill fails to sufficiently reduce costs for the majority of working families in the Third District. The Senate bill also does not include several specific measures that were in the House bill that could increase competition. These include the elimination of the health insurance industry’s anti-trust exemption and a provision to begin to require health care providers to disclose their prices.


Repeat:
These include the elimination of the health insurance industry’s anti-trust exemption and a provision to begin to require health care providers to disclose their prices.

This is the Insurance Industry Protection Act of 2010.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:30 AM
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5. If You Read My Comments Prior To His Statement You Would Have My Answer.....
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 01:32 AM by global1
Are we totally happy with this bill - no. It could have been a lot better. But that does not mean that it should be voted against. If this guy had any smarts - he would have voted to pass the bill and then work his ass off to make it better. But No - he gave up. He voted "NO" and now he'll have to live with that legacy.

Lipinski could have also tried to get his points covered in the 'reconciliation' bill that the Senate has to still pass. Instead - he just gave up and voted "no".

Dennis Kucinich was unhappy with this bill. Hell for that matter many Dems were not totally pleased with everything in this bill. But they at least did the right thing and voted 'yes' for this historic piece of legislation and stated that they will continue to work to improve.

No - Lipinski just gave up. If you read his comments and listened to Boehner's comments before the House today - they are almost verbatim. Lipinski is an embarrassment to the Dem party. Sorry.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:34 AM
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6. He's the one difference between the 219 YEA for the Senate bill and 220 for the Reconciliation
He voted NO on the Senate bill, giving the Democrats 219.

He votes YES on the Reconciliation, giving the Democrats 220.

His main reason was that the Senate bill wasn't anti-abortion enough, and wasn't swayed by Stupak's Executive Order agreement with Obama.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:36 AM
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8. Thank You - I Didn't Know That Lipinski Voted 'Yes' In The Reconciliation Vote.....
I guess he thought he could have it both ways. In my mind it still doesn't redeem him from voting 'no' on this bill. He'll have to answer to that IMHO.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:48 AM
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10. Especially since his reason for voting NO was that he wanted tougher anti-abortion language.
That's not very Progressive at all.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:34 AM
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7. Ok I get it that he comes from a democratic district
here is my question... HOW CONSERVATIVE is his district?

Not to defend him, but folks at times vote truly the way the district leans...

Why conservadems usually come from VERY CONSERVATIVE districts.

And yes you can almost predict the voting record of a rep by how liberal or conservative the district actually is.

And I am asking to try to explain to people things are not as simple as saying this is a dem or an R... the district matters, more than people think. And by that I mean the people in the district who bother to call them, and actually well like vote and shit.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:47 AM
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9. He's Southwest Chicago...
It's a more "conservative" area as Chicago goes. His old man, another DINO, held the seat and got the blessing of the Daley machine to give the seat to junior who had no real experience.

I agree that the district matters...I'm in a "purple" area outside the city and my rep, Melissa Bean, voted Yes both times today, so did Bill Foster who represents Hastert's old district...both are more "conservative" than Lipinski's district.

He almost lost a primary battle two years ago but went unopposed this year...he's a pretty good lock on being re-elected in November. Lipinski's no secret, his "conservative" voting record has been known for years but he has the support of Daley and thus any challenger faces big odds.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:07 AM
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12. I Live In His District And I Don't Think It Is All That Conservative.....
A big portion of his constituency are Poles. I myself am of Polish heritage as well. I think his district is primarily blue collar. Many people in his district vote against themselves - not taking an interest as to how Lipinski votes in the House. He has an 'ski' in his name and that is gold in this big portion of his district. Also, some of the district is on the fringe of the city and many policemen and firemen live in his district. They have to reside in the city to hold those jobs - so they live as close to the suburbs as possible. Given the Daley machine - they form a big voting bloc for Lipinski and that helps his vote getting.

I went to his Town Hall on healthcare. There were a few 'tea baggers' in the audience - but most were pro-health care bill. Unfortunately - his Town Hall was a sham. He had the meeting hall for 2 hours or so and wasted 1 1/2 hrs with speakers who all ran over their allotted time which left a very short time for him to hear what his constituents had to say or to field questions. This I believe was done on purpose so he didn't have to answer the tough questions or face those whom he felt were for this bill when he couldn't make up his mind.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:22 AM
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13. You Hit On The Key...Ethnicity
Chicago is divided up by ethnic groups...Guiterrez is the "Hispanic Congressman", Schakowsky the "Jewish Congressman" and so on. You are correct about the blue collar nature of the area and that his heritage means more than what he does in Washington. That's what's given him a free pass.

Lipinski benefits from the huge patronage army that gets out the vote when it matters and can offer favors a challenger can't. He's definitely "old school" and inherited that machine. I'd love to see him challenged in 2012 (too late for this year) and to get the netroots and other progressive organizations behind a solid challenger, but in that district, blood and kielbasa runs deep.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:08 PM
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14. He could vote like a socialist and get re-elected.
In fact, he would have an easier time in the primary than he did last time.
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