American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer

[Taverner]

OMG...teh stupid...it BURNS!!!

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/03/american-family-associati_n_484022.html?ref=fb



The American Family Association, a religious right group, is urging that Tillikum (Tilly), the killer whale that killed a trainer at SeaWorld Orlando, be put down, preferably by stoning. Citing Tilly's history of violent altercations, the group is slamming SeaWorld for not listening to Scripture in how to deal with the animal:

Says the ancient civil code of Israel, "When an ox gores a man or woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner shall not be liable." (Exodus 21:28)
However, the group is going further and laying the blame for the trainer's death directly at the feet of Chuck Thompson, the curator in charge of animal behavior, because, according to Scripture,

But, the Scripture soberly warns, if one of your animals kills a second time because you didn't kill it after it claimed its first human victim, this time you die right along with your animal. To use the example from Exodus, if your ox kills a second time, "the ox shall be stoned, and its owner also shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:29)
SeaWorld has no plans to execute Tilly.

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[Ishoutandscream2]

1. Oh, dear God

What else can you say?

[catbyte]

4. Their ignorance is breathtaking

I'm actually speechless...

[roguevalley]

40. James dobson once wrote how he felt his tiny dachshund wasn't

'submissive' to him enough and so he chased him around his house beating him with a belt until he finally fell on the floor in a puddle. Imagine that. Check my sig line for a tiny dachshund. I hope we never meet. I have a belt too.

[elehhhhna]

60. Tammy Faye Baker once prayed her dog would die b/c it was driving her crazy...

and it did! Praise the Lord!

[LakeSamish706]

2. I think a much better solution would be to set it free, but we all know that isn't going to happen!

[Taverner]

5. I can think of hundreds of better ideas...

Somehow 'let's throw rocks at it until it dies' is right up there with 'elect Sarah Palin president' and 'eat the yellow snow'

[Ishoutandscream2]

47. No kidding. +1000000

[Marr]

71. Are you KIDDING? That thing is a KILLER whale!

We can't let killers out in the open ocean!

[John N Morgan]

3. White boys just can't seem to stay in the back part of that book that concerns them

All the good stuff is in the front part.

[Toasterlad]

58. If You Think "White Boys" Have a Monopoly on Religious Bigotry, You're Obviously Not Gay.

[Tailormyst]

6. Okay- the stupidity is overwhelming

Common sense and logic are just non existent in these people.

Put aside all the logical arguments about ethics, cruelty to animals, animal instincts etc etc and then just imagine these yahoos tossing rocks at a KILLER WHALE in an attempt to kill it.

They should be encouraged not to breed.

[Taverner]

7. We'll I've long argued for sterlization drugs in Martinellis

Because, yes, they shouldn't breed

[damyank913]

27. This isn't ordinary stupidity...

this is ADVANCED stupidity!

[arthritisR_US]

8. sweet jeezus I hate those people! n/t

[blogslut]

9. Okay, now how would that work?

Does the author understand the ineffectiveness of throwing rocks at an animal submerged in water? As well, if the whale's executioners were to entrap the creature on land, wouldn't it take a hell of a lot of rocks to injure it to the point of killing it? I would imagine the whale would die from lack of moisture before it died from a bunch rocks thrown by the religiously insane.

Silly fundies. They never think things through.

[Tailormyst]

21. Humans couldn't throw big enough rocks to harm it.

[KillCapitalism]

46. LOL No kidding.

You'd have to drop a rock the size of an SUV on one of those to kill it.

[SidDithers]

31. I think there'd be some sore arms...

and an unhurt killer whale, after a few hours.

Edit: or maybe they're thinking displacement. Throw enough rocks in the tank and displace the water!

Nah, they're not that smart.

Sid

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Nothing like dragging out 5000 year old superstition about how to deal with a wild animal.

For the sanity of the country, these people need to be locked away from the rest of us.

[DefenseLawyer]

11. C'mon Brian!

[Echo In Light]

12. Wowzer. "Put down" is bad enough...but by STONING?! Reveals their mindset

"oh, let's go to the stoning."

[Initech]

13. So the fundies finally go old school. I wonder why it took them this long?

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. This could get interesting.

I say we get Wildmon and his kid (the idiots that run the AFA) down to Sea World, let them carry in all the rocks they can hold both hands, and put them right in Tilly's tank with him.

I'm betting the orca wins. :evilgrin:

[guitar man]

19. beat me to it!

Of course they would have to be close enough to the Orca to hit it with the stones :evilgrin:

[Marr]

15. Ok. So Old Testament *is* binding today. I'll check back tomorrow.

Seems like those rules are optional, depending on who did the transgressing.

[ceile]

16. Nauseating

:wtf:

[redqueen]

17. Yep.

That's about on par with the rest of their amazingly stupid nonsense.

Aren't these the idiots who advocate beating children to get them to behave?

[Kievan Rus]

18. I thought this was satire at first...turns out they were dead serious.

I think I just lost a few IQ points.

[Stevenmarc]

20. Let them stone the whale as long as they tie a rope to the stone and themselves

[Bluenorthwest]

22. And yet Obama agrees with these nuts that their faith demands

discrimination against humans due to those 'Scriptures' so clearly he either supports the whale stoning or he is simply a hypocrite. Same goes for Biden, Palin, Tim Kaine, Josh DuBois, and the rest of the God Squad. This is what that Book says. Kill the whale, sell the child, beat the slave. If you buy into the hate of gay people based on that book, you MUST believe in killing the whale, selling your children, keeping slaves, and so on. I mean, this IS the religion. Own it or stop using it as a weapon. It says what it says, about haircuts, snotty kids, lobsters. Blended fabrics, footballs, flower gardens, all of them abominations according to the faith of Obama. A slave seeking freedom, also an abomination in this faith so many think they hold, which upon closer inspection in not what they thought it was at all. To practice what is in that book would lead to instant, lifelong prison in our culture. Time to stop pretending it says 'Jesus loves the little children, amen' and nothing more.
If you believe a jot, you must believe the whole thing. If you oppose equal rights, you must support killing the whale. Or you are full of shit on a very dangerous and deep level.
Many will mock these people for quoting a Book they themselves quote against their neighbors. The Whale Killing Book of Slavery. The Bible.

[Taverner]

24. Yup

[muffin1]

29. You, my dear,

are one of the people who keep me coming back to DU.

:loveya:

[Bluebear]

76. I could not agree more

[IndianaGreen]

61. Perhaps he shares some of their values

Obama prays with C Street cult during the National Prayer breakfast, and welcomes Rick Warren, yet he has never prayed with MCC.

[Toasterlad]

64. Impossible. I've Heard From Several DUers That Obama Loves teh Gays.

Also, he is, apparently, doing a super job.

[TokenQueer]

66. I just love you.

I really do...

:applause:

[brendan120678]

23. It's not exactly the AFA claiming this...

it's someone who has a Blog at the AFA site.

[Taverner]

25. No, "Rightly Concerned" IS the AFA blog

So yes, it is them claiming this, not some lone nut

[muffin1]

26. OMFG!

Just when I thought I'd heard everything.:wow:

How about something radical, like not putting animals meant to live in the ocean into a swimming pool to do stupid tricks?

[damntexdem]

28. I have an image of the AFA tossing stones at Tilli, who dives down to where the stones don't hurt.

Water does that to moving objects. ;-)

Better yet, invite the AFA to go swimming with Tilli.

[arcadian]

32. Damn, I said the same thing!

but you got in one second before me. x(

[Chulanowa]

42. Fundies don't believe in physics OR biology

That's the debbil's work

[arcadian]

30. You could throw a lot of rocks at a Killer Whale and I would imagine they wouldn't feel a thing.

Plus rocks tend to loose velocity upon impact with water.

[Blue Owl]

33. I'd like to smack these idiots on their sloping foreheads

I'm not interested in going back to your stone age scriptureland.

[Bozita]

34. Will somebody please tell me this didn't come from The Onion?

Looks to me like The Onion just got out-onioned.

[marmar]

35. Lawd Jeezus save us from these freaks......

I say give them three sparsely populated states with few natural resources.....

then they can smite, condemn and stone each other 'til the end of time.


But put up a big, electrified barrier, ala Jurassic Park.

[democrank]

36. I agree.

Any ungrateful giant whale that acts up just because it doesn`t like a tiny room-size water cage needs to be stoned to death. The SeaWorld folks aren`t in this for the money, they`re TRYING TO SAVE THE WHALES!

Don`t bother asking that pesky question you`ve all got on the tip of your tongues....Who would Jesus stone? The American Family knows the answer even if you don`t....whales.

[MineralMan]

37. I doubt the AFA guys have big enough stones to carry this off.

[Cirque du So-What]

38. K & R

I want this in front of as many eyes as possible. This is just a taste of what the born-again taliban has in mind for society if they were to ever gain power - gawd forbid. It wouldn't just be errant orcas receiving a good old-fashioned bronze-age stoning for transgressing gawd's laws; it'd be human beings as well. There are many, MANY laws in the Old Testament that these whackjobs would inflict on the rest of society if they had the chance.

Too many people just look at these talibornagains with bemusement instead of concern. Publicizing their sick fantasies can help to show the danger in ever allowing these loons to gain power in any form.

[Taverner]

50. Republic of Gilead

And yes, I consider Palin one of them

[hamsterjill]

39. Idiots - All of 'Em

I simply marvel at the compassion expressed by these groups!!! (Sarcasm, of course)

[n2doc]

41. I'd rather see the AFA get stoned n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

43. I thought your post title was sarcasm.

These people are unbelievable...

[krispos42]

44. Stoning an orca to death could take a while.

Perhaps we could take a catapult, put Tim Wildmon on it, and launch him head-first and at high velocity into the orca. Lord knows his head is similar to stone.

[jberryhill]

45. I can't imagine the size of the stash they'll need to get a whale stoned /nt

[Toasterlad]

63. !

:spray:

[Enrique]

48. what does this have to do with 'families'?

are they the Cetacean Family Association?

[Viking12]

49. I don't get the stoning thing. Was the whale gay too?

[Bozita]

53. Maybe the whale expressed desire for an abortion

[guitar man]

51. So...um

"He who is without fin cast the first stone" ?

:crazy:

[chollybocker]

65. Well played, Sir.

:applause:

[guitar man]

67. Thanks!

I'll be here all week!

:hi:

[chollybocker]

78. I'm just here for the veal.

:hi:

[Withywindle]

52. Well, now we know.

The next step beyond "jumping the shark" is "stoning the orca."

[KamaAina]

54. But, but, but if your ox was supposed to be stoned the first time,

how could it kill a second time?

And why don't we get to chow down on orca flesh?

Oh goddess, I think my brain is about to explode... :nuke:

[Monk06]

55. Rev Don Wildmon stepped down today from the chairmanship of the AFA today

due to health reasons - water on the brain and
cancer of the eye.

The AFA is actually a super wealthy radio ministry
so of course Rev Don's son Timmy is taking over.

This is just an attempt to get the AFA into the news
and provoke animal rights groups such as the RW's
favorite target, PETA into responding to the story.

Tilly is just doing what every circus animal would
do that is kill his tormentors at the first opportunity.

Force an animal to perform tricks against its will in
front of hundred of screaming humans and eventually it
will attack the humans that are the cause of its stress;
animal trainers.

Look at Siegfried and Roy. They loved their cats, unfortunately
their cats, (being cats) will attack other animals regardless of
size if they are tormented. And the S&R cats are Siberian Tigers one
of the most unpredictable and dangerous of the large cats.

Sanitaries for en danged animals are fine IMO. But forcing animals
to perform for audiences should be banned.

[CBR]

56. Total nutjobs. nt

[Toasterlad]

57. Wait...the Whale Is Gay?

[IndianaGreen]

62. That must be it!

Nuke a gay whale for Christ!

[IndianaGreen]

59. We should also be stoning adulterers!

Which would wipe out most Christian families!

[guitar man]

68. Since they are so into reenacting the old testament

I wonder if any of them would be interested in playing the part of Jonah ?

:rofl:

[glinda]

69. Assholes

[kitkat65]

70. I'm all for it

In fact, I would even pay to see the American Family Association swimming in deep water holding a bunch of heavy rocks, you know?

[guitar man]

80. And a killer whale

Let 'em toss some rocks and piss him off, it would be like Aquatic Pac Man!

:rofl:

[heli]

72. Release Tilly, and put the nuts in the ocean with him

[IDemo]

73. On the author

Another proud product of Idaho: http://may-chang.com/?p=1168

[Taverner]

74. Wow! Look at the brain on Colmes!!!!!

[WonderGrunion]

75. That's so stupid. The meat will be inedible after stoning.

What? :hide:

[Mendocino]

77. The town of Erwin TN once hung an elephant

after it went a little beserk and killed someone.

[jberryhill]

79. But The Whale Was Sent To Take Her To Ninevah, And She Refused

Obviously, it has been a while since those folks reviewed Jonah.