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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:08 AM
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HCR Reconciliation Thread (Minor changes) We Still do not have the votes
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 11:09 AM by Suji to Seoul
Two more to the "yes" column, but not any that weren't expected. Let's look at the count.

We need at least 50 to force a Biden tie breaker vote. Including 41 GOP "no" votes, the count is 49 - 48 - 3.

Let's look at the 34 who have stated to use Reconciliation (according to Countdown). Let's assume we have those:
Feinstein, Kerry, Sanders, Brown, Whitehouse, Bennet, Burris, Gillibrand, Merkeley, Franken, Leahy, Schumer, Reed, Boxer, Udall, Mikulski, Shaheen, Lautenberg, Durbin, Specter, Casey, Dorgan, Cardin, Bingamen, Menendez, Wyden, Stabenow, Johnson, Feingold, Inouye, Carper, Levin, Klobuchar, Murray

The following are definite "yes" votes: (14 total yes votes)
Byrd - WV; Udall - CO; Kohl - WI; Akaka - HI; Tester - MT; Harkin - IA; Webb - VA; Warner - VA; Dodd - CT; Kaufman - DE; McCaskill - MO; Bayh - IN; Hagan - NC; Landrieu - LA
Reid - NV (if the votes are there)

The following are definite "maybe" votes: (3) votes
Begich - AK (being a DEM in AK has advantages. He may be one term and we can use that for our advantage.)
Conrad - ND (Since I have not heard a peep from him, he's in the maybe section. Someone help me out.)
Cantwell - WA (Lukewarm. Keep up the heat.)

The following are the "no" votes, the Blue Dog, DINO-moles in the Senate: (7 votes)
Bill Nelson - FL (no completely. Too bought.)
Ben Nelson - NE (no completely. Too selfish.)
Pryor - AR (No chance for his vote. Too brain dead.)
Rockefeller - WV (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. APPARENTLY THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN WV.)
Lincoln - AR (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. APPARENTLY THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN AR.)
Lieberman - CT (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. THIS MOLE NEEDS TO BE DROPPED FROM THE CAUCUS.)

We do not have it, but we are one vote away from a 50-50 with a Biden "yes" tie-breaker!!! Expect 41 no votes (45 with these DINO assholes).

Keep up the heat!!!

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:26 AM
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1. The Primary against Lincoln is going to pressure her to vote for Reconciliation if
she wants to win the primary.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:34 AM
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2. So collins and snowe are also a definite no? /nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:39 AM
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3. Every inch is a mile at this end of things.
It's those last damn pesky couple of yards till the goal line where both lines of scrimmage just pile up on each other & the ball goes 1/4 inch.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:40 AM
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4. What's the status of Max Baucus?
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 11:41 AM by backscatter712
He's not in the OP as far as I can find, though my impression would be that he's not a supporter of the public option. He's too much of a coward to vote against it in public though.

He'd probably vote for reconciliation in a non-public-option bill easily enough.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:42 AM
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5. I'm also wondering if Lincoln could be convinced to change her mind.
After all, she's now officially getting primaried!

Hell, Arlen Specter's impersonating a progressive this year, it could work...
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