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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:30 PM
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should we ban bigots in the military?
seriously, homophobes and other bigots are a detriment to unit cohesion.

i mean, can a soldier who happens to be gay or black or jewish COUNT ON a bigotted soldier under fire?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:31 PM
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1. We should ban them from running for Congress, too...n/t
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:32 PM
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2. Unfortunately a lot of biggots are closeted biggots.
Many don't even know they are biggots.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:32 PM
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3. Hell yes they should be banned!
Can you imagine taking a shower with a bigot right next to you? :scared:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:33 PM
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4. He might check out your package!!!
E-FUCKING-GADS!
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:34 PM
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5. Sure, but only paired with a don't ask, don't tell policy
:)

You can not ask people if they are bigots, nor can they tell you
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:35 PM
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6. ironically, that might actually work well for bigotry
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:36 PM
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7. Works for me, nt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:40 PM
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8. Only if you can get others like yourself to volunteer
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:42 PM
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9. If you do, you might lose a lot of people.
At least, that was the case when I was in.
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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:11 PM
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10. Maybe you should start with the definition of a bigot,


Not all bigots are white, which is what your post infers. Hypocrisy filled nonsense is a detriment to being taken seriously.



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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:12 PM
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12. You hit "post" twice you boob.

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:33 PM
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13. it was just one example, not meant to be exhaustive
and my post doesn't "infer" anything.
you could argue that it "implies" something, but any "inferring" would have to be done by someone reading the post.

i don't think bigotry should be tolerated in any form, and i think it's a particular problem in the military.
the only colors they should see and care about are red, white, and blue.

does that work for you?
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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:07 PM
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19. Too late to wave the flag at me,

You are pretty specific in my incorrect use of the word infer, yet your original can be interpreted, as bigoted hypocrisy, funny.

I stand by my opinion of your thread, it's bigoted, and SPECIFICALLY bigoted at that.


You should capitalize the "i",......makes you look like you ARE able to make literary errors, but that's cool nobody's perfect.


take care




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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:53 PM
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16. You confused the difference between "imply" and "infer."
Also, you misused the word hypocrisy.

And you inferred the OP's contention incorrectly.

So what were you saying about being taken seriously?
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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:46 PM
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20. you're too late,

I've already had my hand slapped for the incorrect use of "infer", my use of the word hypocrisy described how I felt his thread WAS bigoted. Put me down for 2, costly offensive english penalties. I'll get you on payday, Mr. incorrect placement of the period.

I will always believe my opinion is correct, no matter what your opinion tells you. (wanted to use "irregardless" instead of "no matter what" just to give you a reason to live.

How can I be taken seriously? I'm a non black, non gay, non jewish white guy, who feels the post sounded bigoted, and I still do.

take care.






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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 04:00 PM
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21. Time stamp proves otherwise.
"I've already had my hand slapped for the incorrect use of "infer", my use of the word hypocrisy described how I felt his thread WAS bigoted. Put me down for 2, costly offensive english penalties. I'll get you on payday, Mr. incorrect placement of the period."

Yeah, but you "feel" wrong. Overly defensive to be quite frank.
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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 04:25 PM
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22. LOL,



The OP had already correctly identified my butchery of the english language, maybe you two should start a club or something. You don't have much of a sense of humor do you?

The thread struck me as overly bigoted, again, just my opinion so I know it's correct. Irrigar..........no matter what your opinion tells you.

Maybe overly defensive, been called worse, I'll live.

Just what are you "implying" about the way I feel ? .....????? Come-on that's worth a giggle, isn't it ?????

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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:11 PM
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11. Maybe you should start with the definition of a bigot,


Not all bigots are white, which is what your post infers. Hypocrisy filled nonsense is a detriment to being taken seriously.



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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:39 PM
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14. I'm going to have to go with Chris Rock on this one.
Don't go throwing anyone out of the military. If they want to be there, and they want to live the military life, then by all means let them. Because I certainly am not. Now, if you can replace every one of them you want to throw out, then feel free. But don't expect me or mine to take their place.

Even for people who are ignorant about the need for gay rights, though, you'd think that would be a sufficiently convincing argument. I don't know why they don't get that. :(
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:51 PM
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15. If bigots in the military were banned........
they'd lose most of their senior officers, for starters.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:55 PM
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17. well that might not be a bad thing....
certainly under shrub they seemed pretty lame, having nothing to do with the bigotry issue.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:56 PM
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18. +1
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