Exactly 43 years ago, David Ferrie died

[ohiodemocratic]

"On February 22, 1967, less than a week after the New Orleans States-Item broke the story of Garrison's investigation, Ferrie was found dead in his apartment. The New Orleans coroner officially reported that the cause of death was a Berry Aneurysm. Two unsigned typed letters were found: The first, found in a pile of papers, was a screed about the justice system, beginning with "To leave this life is, for me, a sweet prospect." The second note was written to Al Beauboeuf, Ferrie's friend.<36> (The coroner's "natural causes" explanation for Ferrie's death contradicts the suicide explanation. Regarding this Garrison said, "I suppose it could just be a weird coincidence that the night Ferrie penned two suicide notes, he died of natural causes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ferrie#Death_and_aftermath

[DebbieCDC]

1. We'll never know the truth of all that went down in that summer of '63

[aquart]

2. We do know that a number of people felt entitled to do as they pleased.

Were they also assassins? Did they hire assassins? How far does that arrogance go?

[jxnmsdemguy65]

7. A new book coming out this month promises to do just that...

http://www.judythvarybaker.com/

[dysfunctional press]

3. people really need to get over the kennedy assassination.

unless maybe poppy makes a deathbed confession, the real and whole truth will never be known.

[EFerrari]

4. I don't know about you, but I'm one of those troublemakers

that Howard Zinn spent his life encouraging. I don't need to get over anything. :)

[dysfunctional press]

5. knock yourself out...

for all the good it's gonna do. :eyes:

[EFerrari]

10. Maybe you and I just don't define "good" in the same way.

:)

[dysfunctional press]

12. the definition i use is "opposite of bad".

[EFerrari]

13. Clearly.

[dysfunctional press]

14. and how do you define it...?

[ohiodemocratic]

16. Ditto. Never getting over it here n/t

[me b zola]

8. Sorry, but I feel that "getting over" this and other happenings in our history

is the reason that we are in the sorry state that we are in now. I, for one, won't be "getting over" the Kennedy assassination anytime in the foreseeable future.

[dysfunctional press]

9. good for you...

let us all know when you finally uncover the truth, okay...?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

11. Hey, me b. I just watched the Zinn memorial again tonight.

And I'm really happy he didn't "get over" stuff, like the real history of this country. LOL

[DeltaLitProf]

21. Read him.

He wasn't particularly interested in the question of whether Kennedy was shot bec. of a conspiracy. He thought the conspiracy of imperialism was unaffected by the change of presidents of 63. And read Noam Chomsky's Rethinking Camelot for the evidence JFK was not at all interested in a permanent withdrawal from Vietnam.

[EFerrari]

64. I' have read him. it's not about the issue but about the attitude.

And, I've read Chomsky as well. I don't have to share a brain with either of them -- which is probably a good thing for those good men. lol

[devilgrrl]

15. People should get over the holocaust too!

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[dysfunctional press]

18. well...i certainly have.

people that live in the past need to be left behind.

[EFerrari]

20. People who don't know their past can't know themselves or each other. n/t

[dysfunctional press]

27. wow...melodramatic much...?

:eyes:

besides, my personal 'past' only goes as far back as 1961.

[EFerrari]

65. That's not melodrama. It's how people are made.

You may not realize it but in 1961, you were born into a context that started affecting you pretty much immediately.

[dysfunctional press]

70. no- it's melodrama to the nth degree.

"People who don't know their past can't know themselves or each other."
utterly meaningless psycho-babble.
one of your specialties.

:eyes:

[tkmorris]

22. Every single person who has ever been given a prison term in this country

Has been judged for an act that occurred in the "past".

May I assume that you also feel it is pointless to prosecute anyone from the Bush Gang?

[dysfunctional press]

26. they were judged on actions that occured in their own past.

most of the people alive today were not around for the holocaust.

actually- it's pointless for anyone to think that anyone from the bush administration will ever face prosecution...'feelings' have nothing to do with it- it's just a reality. if you want them to, or think that they will- you're going to be sorely disappointed, and very frustrated- and that's no way to go thru life.

[flyarm]

19. I will never get over it and furthermore I don't understand how any dem can support Arlen Specter..

it makes me want to scream bloody murder..Oh yeah he covered up murder..murder of My democratic President!

I would spit at the fucker before ever even contemplate supporting his sorry "accomplice to cover up murder " ass!

It would be over my dead body to support that fucker!

[BlueIris]

25. Dem support for Specter really is shameful.

It sickens me.

[dysfunctional press]

29. "I will never get over it"

fine- live your life in total frustration. that's certainly your prerogative...:hi:

[flyarm]

43. and you spend your life supporting the guy who covered up the murder of a democratic president!

enjoy it..but don't tell me or anyone I know who has been a democrat for most of their adult life that you have democratic principles and values!

You can take the NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY and stick it!

[dysfunctional press]

51. "and you spend your life supporting the guy who covered up the murder of a democratic president!"

first off- you must have me confused with someone else, as i haven't 'spent my life' supporting anyone.

second- who is it you're referring to as the cover-up guy?

[flyarm]

55. Specter..Magic Bullet..look it up!!

[dysfunctional press]

66. and how exactly have i 'spent my life supporting him'...?

i don't even live in his state.

[BlueIris]

24. Oh, sure, get over the worst crime in the history of this country.

Idiot.

[dysfunctional press]

28. the only idiots are the ones who cling to the idea that the actual truth will ever be known.

it won't.
get over it.

and fyi- the invasion of iraq was a much worse crime than a political assassination.
btw- why do you consider kennedy's assassination to be a worse crime than lincoln's?

[tomp]

35. did you work really hard at it or...

...were you born with the gift of being obnoxious?

don't even pretend you're concerned about whether we are frustrated. it is obvious you're not.

you seem to be being obnoxious for its own sake, a personality problem. i urge you to seek help.

[dysfunctional press]

36. awww...did i hurt your poor widdle feewings...?

:eyes:

[tomp]

47. how fucking immature can you be? you really do need help.

i'm serious.

[dysfunctional press]

52. you're the one that started in with the name-calling, mr. maturity.

btw- i'm made of rubber, you're made of glue...whatever you say- bounces off of me and sticks onto you.

so there.

[tomp]

92. wrong, but then, you seem to always be.

the post i responded to had you calling people idiots.

I'm going to say it again: you should seek help.

[flyarm]

57. how old are you 12? and it is obvious you have zero knowledge of history..back to school kiddies..

and my I suggest opening the history book ..instead of sitting on it!

Easy to do..turn off Ipod and texting phone and read a little ..

[dysfunctional press]

72. how is it so obvious- please elaborate...

do the history books that you read ONLY contain information on the kennedy assassination..?
isn't that rather limiting...?
there's a WHOLE lot more history to the world than a 46 year old assassination.
maybe it's time for you to realize that...:shrug:

[flyarm]

56. and who was ONE OF THE MOST PIVOTAL PERSONS RESPONSIBLE FOR COVERING UP THE TRUTH?

oh yeah Arlen Specter..and his magic bullet bullshit and lies!

Know history much?? I didn't think so.

[dysfunctional press]

74. and what does that have to do with any of the questions i asked...

that you obviously have NO ability to answer...:shrug:

and since you seem to know for a fact that 'the truth' was covered up- then what IS 'the truth'?

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. The murder of one man doesn't begin to equal the systematic extermination of nearly all of the

indigenous people who were here when white men showed up. MILLIONS vs One.

You need a wider perspective.

[timtom]

30. Sorry.

Not gonna get over it. Wouldn't be prudent.

[dysfunctional press]

31. so...what do you think is going to come of it...?

:shrug:

[timtom]

32. In all likelihood,

the sorrow and anger will die with me and those like me.

Ever wonder why Irish Catholics are still angry about Northern Ireland? Or why many Jews are still hurt and angry over the Holocaust?

[dysfunctional press]

34. being sorrowful and angry is no way to go thru life...seeing as you only get the one.

but- it is your prerogative. enjoy.

[timtom]

40. You jump to specious conclusions.

Are you angry about anything? ANYTHING? Do you have any sorrow? ANY? Does it define your entire being?

Please. Check your ego at the door. And your solicitude.

[dysfunctional press]

41. of course i've felt anger and sorrow.

i just don't hold onto it for 46+ years.
i get OVER it.

sheesh. :eyes:

[timtom]

42. Missed the part about "does it define your entire being."

It certainly doesn't define my entire being. But you seem very, very anxious to perceive it thus.

In addition, you seen unable to let go of your aversion to people hanging on to the JFK assassination. Do you wonder why? I do.

[dysfunctional press]

44. no, i didn't.

"you seen unable to let go of your aversion to people hanging on to the JFK assassination"

how so..? i didn't start the thread- i was just replying to it.

"But you seem very, very anxious to perceive it thus."

again- how so...? (why "very, very" and not just "very" ? :shrug: )

[timtom]

45. Look. There's lotsa folks here who agree with my point of view.

Take up your concerns with some of these other fine folks. You're becoming truculent and intransigent.

[dysfunctional press]

53. there's a lot of folks here(and there) that agree with many points of view...what's your point?

and why is it so difficult for you to answer a couple of simple and direct questions?

[timtom]

60. I don't owe you any answers to any questions.

The OP called for a feeling or an opinion. I gave mine. Somehow that set you in attack mode.

I owe you...nothing.

[dysfunctional press]

67. in other words- you can't.

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[timtom]

96. In other words

I think you're an ignorant, unmannered lout who couldn't argue his way out of a glad bag. I mean, I have never seen such an example of...I think you have serious issues, and they DON'T have anything to do with meaningful debate. I hate to do this, slick, but I gotta put you on ignore. You're a detractor and an obstructionist.

[flyarm]

59. oooohhh.. NOW YOU ARE A SHRINK.. god help us! eom

[dysfunctional press]

69. you think that it takes a medical degree to realize that being sorrowful and angry...

is no way to go thru life...?

WOW.
just how much of a dullard are you..?

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[LanternWaste]

75. Six of one, half a dozen of the other...

Sorrowful and angry, obnoxious and puerile. Six of one, half a dozen of the other...

[flyarm]

58. stopping the shadow government that is destroying our natuon and has been full steam ahead since

Kennedy's murder perhaps????

But we all get it ..you are far to occupied being obnoxious to educate yourself to our USA history..

hey can you tell your employers..next time they send one of you here to play these games, send someone with an ounce of intelligence and a little background in US History..because the ones like you they are sending here..are only proving how absolutely stupid the employers are!

You might also tell your employers..THAT NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY TO STUFF SHIT DOWN OUR THROATS..REAL DEMS WILL NEVER SUPPORT ARLEN SPECTER!

WE ARE NOT ALL YOUNG AND STUPID AND WE HAVE GOOD MEMORIES OF WHO AND WHAT ARLEN IS, AND THE HISTORY OF JFK'S MURDER !

[dysfunctional press]

76. if you think that kennedy's assassination was the 'worst crime in american history'...

then it is YOU that is entirely STUPID and have ZERO knowledge of american history pre-jfk.

you got a WHOLE LOT of learning to do. :hi: you'd better get reading!

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[tomp]

33. people really need to get over....

....getting over the kennedy assassination.

[dysfunctional press]

37. to what end?

it's history, and dwelling on it will accomplish absolutely ZERO.

[tomp]

46. so YOU say.

what could possibly be the advantage of giving up the exploration of one of the most important events in american history?

MAYBE we will never have the answers we are looking for, but so what? the search, the reminders of what happened, and perhaps most importantly, the exposure that the official story is a lie, are worth the effort and frustration to those of us who care. if you don't care, that's you're business. but don't insult us for caring.

[dysfunctional press]

50. what's left to explore...?

[flyarm]

63. what is left to explore? YOU ask.. WELL i ask how can anyone say or call themselves a democrat

and support the MTF'er who wrote the magic bullet theory and helped obscure the investigation into the murder of JFK and has been a lifelong scum bucket mfing republican and now tell the world he is a democrat???????? And tell other democrats to support that MTF'er!!

Only someone totally lacking in History education, or that has no conscience and no principles or values could do that!

Obviously you are proud to be in that category.

[dysfunctional press]

68. in other words- there is nothing left to explore...

you must be great at dodgeball, huh...?

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[tomp]

93. spoken like a person with zero understanding of the process of historical discovery.

your entire argument is based on the specious assertion that nothing more will ever be known about the kennedy assassination.

first, how can you possibly know what will or won't become known in the future? you can't. you must first understand that.

second, historians, experts trained in working with historical data, continue to work on such matters long after the events. do you think, for instance, that nothing more will ever be known about the civil war, or how humans lived before written history?

to take a more recent example, your argument seems to suggest that you would believe there is nothing more we could know about watergate. but then deep throat pops up and announces himself.

you seem incapable of serious thought or discussion. you latched on to an idea and won't let it go, no matter how wrong.

[flyarm]

62. "Those who ignore history are bound (or doomed) to repeat it" eom

[tonysam]

49. No. The truth has been known from Day One.

Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, killed JFK, wounded Governor John Connally, and murdered officer J.D. Tippit.

Any other explanation is pure horseshit, and people ought to be ashamed of themselves for EVER believing the garbage put forward by the con artists in the conspiracy industry, who have made comfortable livings out of promoting lies for whatever stupid causes they espouse.

[truebrit71]

77. Let's see...no, no, no, no and yes...

The 'official' explanation is pure horsehit, and anyone that swallows the Warren Commission report should be ashamed of themselves for EVER believing the theives, liars and murderers that have made obscenely comfortable livings promoting their 'truth' for their own benefit whilst calling anyone that questions them, idiots...

[EFerrari]

86. We were brought up on this idea that, out of nowhere "lone nuts"

just up and kill politically inconvenient leaders.

The reality is, we're just a much bigger Honduras.

[mod mom]

54. "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker. Seems like ole Richard Nixon was a target of BFEE

didn't choose HW like Prescott wanted. I would love to hear John Dean comment on why Nixon thought Howard Hunt, the Cubans and the boys at the CIA set up Watergate to frame him. Maybe he has more insider info as what the "Bay of Pigs" event was that made Tricky Dicky so paranoid. Maybe he knows who set it up so Nixon would be in Dallas on the day of the murder.

[Cetacea]

61. Is that like getting over republicans?

i just can't .

[truebrit71]

73. Yup...get over a coup...sure, why not?

:eyes:

[jaded_old_cynic]

88. I think perhaps the late, great Bill Hicks said it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Fl9ZVJ7B8

[truebrit71]

91. Yup...

...

[TexasObserver]

97. People who can't stand the need for the truth need to get over it.

The truth was hidden, and it's been hidden for a long time. Most of us who lived through it at a cognizant age know how ridiculous the whole "Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone" meme is. Propaganda. A patsy that was involved somehow, but who certainly did not fire the deadly shots. A guy who could never have gotten into Russia and back home without State and Military auspices. A guy who could never have arranged to get a job in a building months before a parade route for a sitting president appeared magically in a convertible with its back bumper Secret Service man left behind in the parking lot.

It was an assassination involving the head of the FBI and CIA agents.

[bertman]

6. Thanks for the reminder, ohiodemocratic. Rec. nt

[ChoppinBroccoli]

17. Get Over It? Why?

Haven't you ever heard of wanting to know something just to have the answer? Ever heard of expanding your mind? Didn't you ever have a question that you just couldn't SLEEP until you found out the answer? Have you never had a thirst for knowledge of any kind? Or are you a member of that ever-growing majority of Americans who fall under the category of "Intellectually Incurious"?

I want to know the truth about the JFK assassination just like I want to know the truth about a lot of different things. UFOs and haunted houses and life after death and ESP and all sorts of other "you'll never find out the answer" kinds of questions. And the more you dig around this whole JFK thing, the more you really want to know what really DID happen.

And you can play your lack of interest in the subject off as "you'll never know the truth anyway"-ism, but the fact of the matter is that someday, we WILL find out the truth. The day when all the classified files gathered during the investigation will become declassified for public consumption is approaching faster than you might think. The finish line might actually be in sight.

You sound like the kind of person who hated history class, and said things like, "You can't change the Civil War, so why bother learning anything about it? Just get over it, already." I wonder what other historical events we should "just get over." Watergate? Iran-Contra? Hey, we can't change 9/11, so why bother trying to find out what really happened and who was responsible, and who knew what and when they knew it? And how far back are you willing to go? We can't change things that happened yesterday either, so should we just forget about them and "get over" them?

Maybe you're perfectly willing to bob your way through life, happy to not know anything at all, but most of us on THIS particular site try to act as little like Republicans as we can, which means we actually ask questions and try to find out the answers to them, as opposed to just burying our heads in the sand.

[yorgatron]

23. those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it..

truer words were never spoken.
we may never know the entire truth,but we can uncover the methods used to obfuscate it,including the "internet ridicule" gambit you're so fond of.

[BeFree]

39. I like broccoli

Welcome to DU...

The dysfunctional person on this thread? Not so much.

[revolution breeze]

38. Never

We will never know all the details. Most of the principals are dead and never revealed all they knew.

[tonysam]

48. So what?

A lot of people died 43 years ago. Ferrie had nothing to do with JFK's death.

Too bad people swallow the cons of the conspiracy writers.

[truebrit71]

78. Um..nope..wrong again...

...too bad people swallow the cons of the politicians..

[Krashkopf]

79. Read "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Hartmann and Waldren

Until ALL of the millions of pages of still classified JFK assassination documents are release - in 2017 - that book is as close as we are ever going to get to the truth.

[JDPriestly]

80. Thom Hartmann points out that Ferrie and Oswald had ties.

I think it was also Ferrie that had ties to Marcello.

Hartmann's book is The Legacy of Secrecy.

http://www.legacyofsecrecy.com/

It is very long. I have not finished it but hope to.

[Krashkopf]

81. Legacy of Secrecy is Hartmann/Waldren's SECOND book on the topic.

See - http://www.thomhartmann.com/2007/11/09/ultimate-sacrifice/

From Publishers Weekly

Starred Review. There has been a long hiatus in significant books on the JFK assassination since Gerald Posner’s Case Closed argued in 1993 that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Posner took the CIA’s lack of involvement for granted, and that, according to this mammoth and painstakingly researched account, was a big mistake. It is Waldron and Hartmann’s (The Edison Gene) contention—bolstered by access to many previously unavailable files, and interviews with little-known as well as prominent figures—that the CIA knew a great deal about the assassination. But the agency couldn’t admit what it knew because that could uncover the existence of a U.S. plan for a coup in Cuba, run by JFK’s brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy. The assassination, say the authors, was carried out by hired gunmen on the orders of three noted Mafia dons whose lives were being made miserable by RFK’s ruthless pursuit—and these Mafia men knew about the planned invasion because they had worked with the CIA on previous efforts to topple Castro. Oswald, long a hidden CIA agent, was set up as the patsy, and it had always been Jack Ruby’s job to eliminate him if he wasn’t killed at the scene of Kennedy’s shooting. How do the authors make their case? With a relentless accumulation of detail, a very thorough knowledge of every political and forensic detail and the broad perspective of historians rather than assassination theorists. They spend perhaps too much time with people they admire, like the late Enrique Ruiz Williams, who was a crucial early source for them. They also cannot resist chasing stories of only marginal relevance to their principal one, like what really happened to Che Guevara in Cuba. But no future historian of that tormented period in American history will be able to ignore their very convincing presentation, even if a lay reader may feel overwhelmed by the sheer weight of the evidence. B&W photos.

Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

[apocalypsehow]

82. The continued unseemly obsession with the JFK assassination - despite the fact that all credible

evidence points to Oswald as the sole perpetrator of that crime - has an almost cultish, religious aspect to it, like gibbering monks venerating the ancient bones of dead saints.

President Kennedy was murdered by a troubled man named Lee Harvey Oswald for singular reasons of his own that we'll likely never know. Despite decades of conspiracy-mongering, there has never been one shred of credible evidence that there was anything more than that to it. Not one. How long before the CT'ers cease defiling JFK's memory with baseless speculations that his own family has by and large dismissed? :shrug:

I suspect the answer is "never," since belief in a conspiracy long left the realm of facts and now resides in the land of faith.

[EFerrari]

83. I have a cultish, religious, unseemly interest in history.

And no, his family did not dismiss anything and there is plenty of evidence of bad actors.

But you're right. Those of us who lived through the assassinations of our leaders in the 60s will never not be interested in those events. And most historians will also continue to be interested in them. :)

/typo

[apocalypsehow]

84. I guess Ted Kennedy didn't get your memo that JFK wasn't a member of his family:

"He said he always has accepted the conclusion that a lone assassin killed his brother John"

Link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32667388/

Congratulations: I've never had a poster follow me around as obsessively as you do me, and also never encountered one whose every post to me has been refuted by verifiable facts. Not once has a post of yours to me stood up under factual scrutiny. That's quite a record.

Now, quick: start parsing. Since the facts show that Ted Kennedy (and he was only one of the many Kennedy family members who think the CT stuff is nonsense; almost all of them that have ever spoken publicly on the matter have stated so) did indeed believe what I just quoted above, you'll no doubt start playing the semantics games about the definition of the word "dismiss" or some similar such nonsense. Hilarious stuff.

[EFerrari]

85. Excuse me?

I have no idea what you're talking about.



And there is great deal of material that addresses how the family spoke about this issue in public and in private. "Brothers" in particular recounts what Bobby Kennedy thought and the sourcing is impeccable.

And now, with your permission, I will stop responding to you since you seem to find it unpleasant. :)

[truebrit71]

94. Did you ever consider that Teddy was being cautious? Let's see he had two brothers...

...both shot..I'd say whatever would take the heat off me too...

I refuse to be a good german and believe the warren commission and their apologists that continue to deride those that disagree with the party line...

[RedCloud]

87. Prescott's kid worked for the CIA back then. Assassin bureau. Just saying.

[anonymous171]

89. CIA and the military loved Kennedy. They had no reason to kill him.

[apocalypsehow]

90. Pretty much true. For starters, JFK initiated the largest military buildup since WWII during his

time in office - only Ronald Reagan made military spending a larger share of domestic GNP during peacetime.

Second, by "shaking up" the CIA after the Bay of Pigs, President Kennedy actually made the new professionals in the agency very, very happy: the "old school" that had been around since it was the OSS during WWII was forced out at Kennedy's explicit order, and a new, more modern era, more suited to the times, was ushered in.

[truebrit71]

95. ..and of course the "old schoolers" were just perfectly happy to sail off into the sunset?

Fail.