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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:24 AM
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I think Obama just checkmated the GOP on health care!
First, he calls them out by inviting them to the summit on Thursday. If they don't show, they'll be shown to be operating in bad faith (like we didn't already know this...)

Now, his version of the health care reconciliation bill is set to include a provision to give the federal government oversight and veto power over health insurance rate hikes, right in the wake of Anthem Blue Cross announcing their 39% rate increases.

If the Repubs want to continue to be obstructionist, they're now in the position of defending Anthem Blue Cross's rate hikes in front of the entire country.

GOOD LUCK SELLING THAT TO THE AARP!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

This will be fun to watch! :popcorn:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:25 AM
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1. I just posted about that in another thread. This is a gift!
Republicans want to be the party in favor of unlimited rate hikes? They're doing our work for us with this one!
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:28 AM
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2. Not to worry... the US media will be working overtime to overcome this for the GOP. eom
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:31 AM
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3. And they can only succeed if the dumbing down of America has ...
... already been an overwhelming success. Let's see what happens.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:00 PM
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8. "If?"
:rofl:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:38 AM
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5. I have some optimism. As Obama showed just by being elected...
The media can only do so much. I don't think they'll succeed in polishing the GOP's turd...
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:32 AM
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4. The Corporate Media will come to the aid of the GOP on this one.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:50 AM
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6. Haven't you heard if you elect Republicans they swear a sacred oath
to do things differently..
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:54 AM
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+ he closes the donut hole immediately.

lol, vote against that, pukes.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:54 AM
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7. I think the rest of this year will finally go well for us, and the GOP will find
they are in real trouble by election time.

Their dreams of a big comeback will prove to be totally delusional - again.
Could be a lot of fun.


mark
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:23 PM
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14. From your lips to you-know-who's ears! nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:27 PM
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16. Obama?
He does have some ears......

mark
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:02 PM
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9. And the most beautiful thing about it all is, it doesn't matter if they obstruct
Because the House can pass the Senate bill and amend it with a second bill that meets Obama's proposal dead on and is handled in the Senate via reconciliation.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:10 PM
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10. They don't think like humans
In their minds Obama is forcing them to insure people with Dark Skin.

Oh the horrors
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:15 PM
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11. ...
want some beer to go with that popcorn? :toast:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:17 PM
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12. IMO the best part about the televised meeting..
is that any bullshit the GOP spews will be immediately challenged with reality. It's the GOP's worst nightmare.

Calling for transparency was a huge miscalculation by the Repukes and a massive benefit for us.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:22 PM
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13. And - Congress would be req'd to get their coverage from the Exchange --
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 12:42 PM by quiet.american
I forget which GOP rep it was at the GOP buttkicking, who wailed that the "American people should have access to the same kind of plans we do...." (which is a great idea, nothing wrong with it.)

Obama: Done.

So now, is that same GOP rep going to vote against the very idea he wanted to see in the bill, that is now in the bill?
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:11 PM
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15. Oh yes, Bush would have said no to rate increases. How Naive!
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 01:12 PM by PHIMG
These reforms are BY and FOR corporate America and will not end the healthcare crisis.

The solution is...

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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:17 PM
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23. did you see this article today?
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 09:18 PM by maryf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7771426

Private Health Insurance has got to go!! its the only way to cover all!!!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:29 PM
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17. Thursday is must see tv. I wonder what the Rethug response is going to be during the summit.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:30 PM
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20. If nothing else, it'll be good entertainment. Can't wait...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:10 AM
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25. All they have to do is repeat the magic mantra "no mandates"..
and they'll have the instant support of 70+% of the population.
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Alias Dictus Tyrant Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:39 PM
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18. Kind of like homeowner's insurance in Florida
That turned out to be a lose-lose disaster for everyone, predictably so because this is not a new idea. Politics aside, this looks like a reheated version of stupid policy.

Any time politicians get involved in discussions of insurance pricing, I marvel at how mathematically illiterate they are. It is like watching people argue over whether 2+2 equals 3 or 5.

Insurance is screwed up in this country because 95+% of Americans are deeply ignorant of what insurance is, but don't let that stop them from declaring what it ought to be.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:06 PM
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19. It is everything the public wanted!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:42 PM
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21. Except, of course, the Public Option
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:49 PM
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22. Shhh. You weren't supposed to notice!
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:20 PM
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24. except single payer or a public option.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 06:01 AM
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26. Check out what just happened with the ..
public option. Obama just introduced his bill which does not have a public option. He also raised the penalty amount for not having health insurance. I wonder how he expects people to buy it or pay for it? He made his move, as you said. I didn't think it was particularly fun to watch. What is does is cater yet again to the Republicans, whom he said he is please to have satisfied and made it so more people will die or live with health conditions which cannot be treated because they can't get or afford health insurance.

Here's one for the corporations, here's nothing to us. Our hero. He has shown us yet again what is important to him and it is not us. He is not a Chess Master, he is not a Jedi Knight. He is just a mediocre president who sold out his base and now wants his base to pay for it.
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