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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:26 PM
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More Intercepted Wingnut E-mails
Here is another, an attack on Obama's "resume"


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Subject: Columbia University Class of 1983

Ever wondered why NO ONE ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. NO ONE, not one person has ever come forward from his past. VERY VERY STRANGE. This should really be a cause for great concern.

To those who voted for him, YOU HAVE ELECTED THE BIGGEST UNQUALIFIED FRAUD that America has ever known!

This is very interesting stuff. Sort of adds credence to the idea of The Manchurian Candidate thing having happened here!

Stephanopoulos of ABC news said the same thing during the 08'campaign.

He too was a classmate of BO's at Columbia class of 1984. He said he never had one class with him.

Was he ever REALLY there?

While he is such a great orator, why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Maybe he never attended class! Maybe he never attended Columbia ? He won't allow Colombia to release his records either. Suspicious isn't it? NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA !!!

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him. Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . Ever! Nobody recalls him. I'm not exaggerating, I'm not kidding. "Root adds that he was also, like Obama, "Class of '83 political science, pre-law" and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It's very strange. "Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .

NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School , then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major (in the same class as President Barack Obama WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN IN).

Can it be that BHO is a complete fraud? More intrigue concerning "The Man who wasn't there."
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:30 PM
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1. Heard he's a ferrinur, too. Born in someplace called Hawiah
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:32 PM
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2. This was debunked during the campaign
His roommate wrote a piece on what he was like in college.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:35 PM
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6. Here it is >
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 10:37 PM by Stephanie
The OP reveals much about the poster, not so much about the President...


http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner

Alumni Corner
Barack Obama ’83, My Columbia College Roommate
By Phil Boerner ’84

PREVIOUSJanuary/February 2009NEXT


Obama and Boerner snapped photos of each other when they were roommates on West 109th Street. Inset: Boerner today.

PHOTOS: OBAMA AND BOERNER IN APARTMENT, COURTESY PHIL BOERNER ’84; BOERNER TODAY: PERN BECKMAN ’84

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommate at Columbia College in fall 1981. I met him in 1979, when we were freshmen at Occidental College (Oxy) in Los Angeles and our dorm rooms were directly opposite each other.

I came to college as a middle-class guy from Bethesda, Md., where I’d lived from fifth grade through high school. At Oxy, we attended some of the same social events and had late-night philosophical discussions related to our college reading or to current affairs. We attended rallies on campus where we were urged to “draft beer, not people,” and discussed the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, apartheid in South Africa, the hostages in Iran and the Contras in Latin America. The crowd we hung out with included men, women, blacks, whites, Hispanics and international students. Barack listened carefully to all points of view and he was funny, smart, thoughtful and well-liked. It was easy to sit down with him and have a fun conversation.

We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia in fall 1981. Barack had found an apartment on West 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street. It was a railroad apartment: From the kitchen, you walked into Barack’s room, then my room, and lastly the living room. We didn’t have a television or computers. In that apartment we hosted a number of visitors, mostly friends from Oxy who stayed overnight when they were passing through town. Barack was very generous to these visitors. As a host and roommate, he sometimes did the shopping and cooked the chicken curry.

Barack has said that he spent a lot of time in the library while at Columbia and one reason for this was that our apartment had irregular heat, and we didn’t enjoy hanging out there once the weather got cold. The radiators in our apartment were either stone cold, or, less often, blasted out such intense heat that we had to open the windows and let in freezing air just to cool things down. When the heat wasn’t on, we sometimes sat with sleeping bags or blankets wrapped around ourselves and read our school books. We also didn’t have regular hot water and sometimes used the Columbia gym for showers.

I remember often eating breakfast with Barack at Tom’s Restaurant on Broadway. Occasionally we went to The West End for beers. We enjoyed exploring museums such as the Guggenheim, the Met and the American Museum of Natural History, and browsing in bookstores such as the Strand and the Barnes & Noble opposite Columbia. We both liked taking long walks down Broadway on a Sunday afternoon, and listening to the silence of Central Park after a big snow. I also remember jogging the loop around Central Park with Barack.

One weekend I invited Barack to meet my grandparents, Elizabeth and William Lytton Payne ’46 GSAS, at their summer place in the Catskills, which we called “the farm.” I took Barack to meet some neighbors on the mountain; everyone seemed to like him pretty well, whether they were die-hard supporters of Ronald Reagan or extreme liberals. While at the farm, Barack joined the routines there, which typically included a few morning hours doing chores, such as clearing brush and sawing firewood.

After that first semester, we had to move. Barack tried to find an apartment for both of us, but was only able to find a studio for himself. I was able to house-sit in Brooklyn Heights. Barack and other friends came and visited me there a few times; we typically watched pro basketball or football on TV, or went out for dinner at a Chinese restaurant. He was amused by my beginning banjo playing (I’m much better today!). Hanging out, we could get pretty emotional about sports, food and injustice. I remember one time when we were out walking he took the time to ask a homeless guy how he was doing, so even then he was concerned about others.

Through different living arrangements in Astoria, Queens; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn; and all over Manhattan, we stayed in touch and remained friends for the rest of our college years. He got to know my girlfriend from Arkansas, who is now my wife. Since I last saw him in 1985, we have exchanged a few letters and photos. He left for Chicago, and I eventually settled in Sacramento.

Barack wasn’t thinking about becoming President when he was in college; he wanted to be a writer. Barack is a good man — some might even call him a saint for tolerating my beginning banjo playing. Based on my six years of knowing him in college and the years immediately after, I can vouch that Barack is a man of character, and I trust him to do the right things when he is President.

Phil Boerner ’84 was born in Washington, D.C., and lives with his wife and two children in Sacramento, Calif. He is communications and public relations manager at the California Veterinary Medical Association.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:33 PM
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3. why did you post this?
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:43 PM
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7. DU is all about sharing
I have been doing it here for years...
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:34 PM
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4. False, of course. Details at Factcheck.org:
http://factcheck.org/2010/02/obama-at-columbia-university/

Last year, the New York Times wrote about Phil Boerner, who roomed with the future president during his first year at Columbia. The article included excerpts from the Columbia student directory, showing Obama living during his junior year at 142 West 109th Street near Columbia’s campus in New York City, and during his senior year at 339 East 94th Street. Boerner recalled that Obama sometimes wrapped himself in a sleeping bag to keep warm in the chilly apartment they shared, and that some nights he would cook chicken curry for dinner.


Obama even published an article in a school magazine called the Sundial...The full article is available on the Web site of Politico.com. It was published in the issue dated March 10, 1983.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:34 PM
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5. This is pretty much a rant of empty words and no substance
screaming "no one remembers Obama, so he couldn't have gone there." Sorry, but official evidence (the degree certificate) trumps "I don't remember" anecdotes. Put this spammer in your do-not-email list please.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:56 PM
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8. My mom got this the other day. I would reply to the whole email chain the factcheck.org email. Also

http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php (Columbia newspaper profiling Alumni Obama in 2005). Obama says that during his 2 years he did nothing but study.


A cursory search of the thing called GOOGLE finds that his professor that wrote his recommendation to Harvard Law School remembers him well (note Obama was only at Coumbia for 2 years).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbiathesis.asp

In 1983, as a senior at Columbia in New York, Barack Obama enrolled in an intense, eight-student honors seminar called American Foreign Policy. His former professor, Michael Baron, recalled in an interview with NBC News that Obama easily aced the year-long class. But Baron says he never had any inkling that the gangly senior would scale such heights.

had saved Obama's senior paper for years, and even hunted for it again in some boxes. But he said his search was fruitless, and he now thinks he tossed it out during a move.

Baron

described paper as a "thesis" or "senior thesis" in several interviews, and said that Obama spent a year working on it. Baron recalls that the topic was nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.

"My recollection is that the paper was an analysis of the evolution of the arms reduction negotiations between the Soviet Union and the United States," Baron said in an e-mail. "At that time, a hot topic in foreign policy circles was finding a way in which each country could safely reduce the large arsenal of nuclear weapons pointed at the other ... For U.S. policy makers in both political parties, the aim was not disarmament, but achieving deep reductions in the Soviet nuclear arsenal and keeping a substantial and permanent American advantage. As I remember it, the paper was about those negotiations, their tactics and chances for success. Barack got an A."

Baron said that, even if he could find a copy of the paper, it would likely disappoint Obama's critics. "The course was not a polemical course, it was a course in decision making and how decisions got made," he said. "None of the papers in the class were controversial."

So would it provide any political ammunition today? "I don't think it would at all," Baron said. "It wasn't a position paper; it was an analysis of decision-making."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:00 PM
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9. I do not recall people coming out of the wood work
claiming to know shrub or darth cheney..
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:22 PM
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12. They dont remember Bush
doing his air national guard duty either! LOL
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 05:00 PM
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13. AFAIK...
...nobody ever claimed that $20K reward that was set up for whoever could prove they saw him actually serving in the Alabama NG.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 05:11 PM
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14. Where do you think the right winger who first wrote this email got the idea?
They're incapable of coming up with anything original.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:39 PM
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10. The only time anyone from my colleges know me is when they need money
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:53 AM
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11. The shit-for-brains people who write, forward, and/or believe this crap are soooooo desperate to not
have a black man as president. Or a "socialist" or whatever the corporate lords have told them to fear. It's really pathetic and utterly disappointing how prevelant their attitude is.

Even my mother has finally stopped simply deleting this sort of garbage, and has lost a few "friends" by having the nerve to tell them, in a very civil manner, that she wants them to stop sending her this kind of nonsense. Go Mom!
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:02 PM
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15. She rocks!!
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