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maynard Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:24 PM
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wonderful era under Reagan
Since the Reagan era was so wonderful, I vaguely remember a few bad items.

1. Double digit interest rates
2. high unemployment
3. trickle down economics
4. high rates of inflation


Can anyone help me out with a few other "wonderful moments" of this era?
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:26 PM
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1. Iran-Contra. nt
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 02:26 PM by Atticus
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:31 PM
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32. Blowing up rural health clinics in Nicaragua. Supporting drug-runners. Shipping missiles to Iran.
Glorious days
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:27 PM
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2. Exploding the debt while dumping social burdens on the states.
The militarization of our police forces.


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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:28 PM
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3. De-regulation.
Reduction in social services.

Privatization.

Increase in political activity from the religious right.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:02 PM
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10. de- regulation started under carter....
ronnie finished it....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:05 PM
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12. george bush "installed" over reagan`s objection
the real center of power was with the boys in the basement and their "script writers". reagan was their willing sock puppet.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:11 PM
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20. I was still young during Carter's administration.
I don't remember everything. I do remember that he seemed to take a "middle of the road" policy; neither the more robust de-regulation that one side favored, nor the nationalization that the other side favored. Do I remember this incorrectly?
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:28 PM
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4. Firing union air traffic controllers. nt
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:29 PM
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5. like cutting student pell grants
not fixing bridges, roads.etc.
spending social security surpluses for tax cuts to the richest among us.
union busting

I guess it depends on what side of the class war you are on.

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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:52 PM
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6. Dumping schizophrenics on the street...
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 02:52 PM by nebenaube
Essentially destroying mental health care in this country.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:00 PM
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9. i forgot about that...happened right here in ronnie`s home town.
there were people who died during the ride to another facility. hundreds were dumped on the streets of chicago. there people were the mentally/physically handicapped. now the facility is a prison. over a thousand people lost their jobs
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:55 PM
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7. my parents made a bundle of money during the high interest craze...
neither one of my parents made over 12 an hour but they ended up with well over a hundred thousand cash and annuities for the next 25 yrs. they bought 30-60-90 then longer term notes and rolled them over. by the time the craze was over they had a sizable amount of notes that the savings and loan still had to honor at the original interest rates. they finally begged my mother into buying annuities which she did.

that was the only bright spot during the 80`s for our family. i was out of work for 8 years,started our own business,we lived with my parents for a year,and finally got a job in 88.my wife worked for around 6 years before she was axed....the 80`s sucked...but the music was good!

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:55 PM
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8. Robbing children by decreasing school lunch funding
and calling ketchup on their fries a serving of vegetables.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:03 PM
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11. Taxing all kinds of benefits and unproved income. The war on the muddle class. n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:13 PM
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13. When he was Gov. of CA ~ he was cruel to Mental Patients
Some where released from hospitals or could not afford to be put in a appropriate setting.

I will never forget the photo in the Los Angeles Times with a Mental patient sitting on a backyard fence and screaming.
It was awful.

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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:14 PM
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14. It's a miracle that moron didn't start a USA vs. USSR nuclear war
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:21 PM
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The S&L crisis....that was the forerunner, the trial run ...
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 03:22 PM by prairierose
for what the banksters have done now and it was not very wonderful for many people or the taxpayer.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:21 PM
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15. my personal experience...
1. Higher taxes, as the deductions previously made available to a single employed renter were phased out. Also the social security deduction went up

2. Wages that fell behind inflation

3. Housing prices that soared beyond belief (yes inflation in other core commodities was tamed, but in a foreshadowing of Bush II asset inflation in real estate was unbated)

4. The only people I knew who made well were folks working in the defense industry or in various sorts of asset speculation (real estate, stock market, etc.)

5. A meaner, nastier, more racist culture overall. It startled me to start hearing crude racial epithets from supposedly educated people.

6. Homeless people living on the streets and the cruel mocking attitude of people to them

7. Expensive foreign luxury cars with bumper stickers that said, "The one who dies with the most toys wins"
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Kyril Enko Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:30 PM
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16. I've never trusted the Russians
So I actually LIKED his foreign policy! Hey, I was in my mother's womb during the Cuban Missile Crisis, so cut a little slack here, wouldya?
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:39 PM
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17. Prefer not to cut him any slack.....
The USSR was pretty much on the ropes. There was a book published in the 1970's (which I forget the name) to that effect which I am sure someone in his little group read.

What he did was push it a bit over the edge by bankrupting them and almost bankrupting us with defense spending.
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Kyril Enko Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:54 PM
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19. "USSR: Decline of An Empire" (No "The")
Sorry 'bout that, chief!
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Kyril Enko Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:43 PM
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18. "USSR: The Decline of An Empire"
But Reagan kinda/sorta/buevista helped it along!
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:42 PM
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29. As did
Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford & Carter.

The USSR was pretty much a house of cards, it was a matter of time as to when it imploded. As I said his defense build up plan (with all the goodies for the MIC) merely pushed it to a tipping point earlier than later by bankrupting them and almost bankrupting us.

I considered the Esteemed Mr. Reagan to be the single worst President we have ever had until #43 arrived on the scene.

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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:05 AM
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54. Reagan greatly expanded the arms race - declining under Carter- and USSR was
spending more of its GDP on military then we were. The analogy is of two old men huffing and puffing up a hill and one has a heart attack first. Does that make the other guy the "winner"?
The rewrite of the Cold War era with Reagan as Captain America is done to fit the narrative of U.S. always GOOD and RIGHT.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:27 PM
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37. His foreign policy mostly revolved around killing poor folk in El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and
Nicaragua. The total death toll was horrendous (hundreds of thousands) and it's all well-documented.

Here are a few links on one of the better known incidents:

The Truth of El Mozote
By Mark Danner
http://www.markdanner.com/articles/show/127

U.N. Truth Commission Report on El Mozote
http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/el_moz05.htm

Rufina Amaya, Survivor of the El Mozote Massacre
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8972597
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:28 PM
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21. had it occurred under a Dem nowadays,
Beirut barracks bombing reaction would have been called "cutting and running" ... that's forgotten in the minds of the "liberal media" ...
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:36 PM
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22. Creating the homeless underclass.
Cutting medical research funding.
Lying about welfare.
Destroying the environment.
Making abortion less accessible with sneaky laws.
Breaking laws left and right - most indictments of an administrative EVER.
Iran-Contra.
The fact that the asshole had Alzheimer's already and the country suffered for it.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:37 PM
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23. Remembering Reagan and wishing he was never in office - Read on:
Remembering Reagan
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
6/10/2004

Read on:

http://www.jacksonprogressive.com/issues/mokhiberweissman/reagan061004.html

........

:nopity:
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:45 PM
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30. Great Listing
:toast:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:39 PM
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24. Free Cheese! And Butter!
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:17 AM
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46. And ketchup was made an "official vegetable"
for school lunches!
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:40 PM
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25. No Kidding!
I always listen to all the bs of him getting the country righted..properous etc. and think, "What the hell are they talking about? I lived through his misery."
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:51 PM
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26. '84 National League playoffs.
F**king Cubs
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:30 AM
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49. Any Team Can Have a Bad Century or Two! n/t
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:04 PM
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27. The fact that he made a deal with the Irani's
to win is all the proof history will need to condemn him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:10 PM
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28. Ignoring the AIDs epidemic, the US funded slaughter all over Central America
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 05:11 PM by EFerrari
killing off labor. Memories.
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maynard Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:29 PM
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31. Thanks..............
I have a great list to pass on to people who believe Reagan walked on water..................
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:35 PM
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33. Let's not forget it was perhaps the most criminal administration in history:
"... investigation, indictment, or conviction of 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president to date ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals

Reagan's criminal cabinet
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1770216
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:37 AM
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43. That's right. The Official Story is so powerful, even I forget this,
Thanks, s4p.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:06 AM
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48. And this
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:37 PM
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34. Scrapped the FCC fairness doctrine
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:00 PM
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35. destruction of small town downtowns during the reagan recession - they never came back.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:26 PM
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36. Turned the USA into the world's greatest debtor nation
from being the world's greatest creditor nation...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:29 PM
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38. Regan cut off benefits of disabled -- thousands committed suicide . . .!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:38 AM
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44. He gutted Housing and Urban Development. Reduced their budget
by 3/4 and so made homelessness an American way of life. The old felon. I wish I still believed in hell.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:37 AM
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56. GOP are expert at destruction . . .
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:29 PM
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39. "October Surprise" = another stolen election -- !!!
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:43 PM
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40. "Welfare Queens" Also, Raygun's financial guru, David Stockman, axed my job at
the time - cutbacks on federal funding for disability non-profits.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:48 PM
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41. Raygun fought hard against Section 504 of Rehabilitation Act (disability rights)
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:06 PM
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42. The beginning of the dumbing down spiral, which we are now suffering the
effects of thanks to the almost completely dumbed down electorate.

Simple solutions for simpletons. Sound bites for the 30-second attention span. $600 toilet seats, which he justified by saying it was a toilet seat "assembly".
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:13 AM
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45. My Father worked with ICAO in Guatemala
During the Ray-gun years, A Maryknoll priest in his plane was shot down while delivering medicine to Native American villagges, the authorities wanted him to testify that the plane crash was pilot error, my Father said 50 caliber bullets are no accident. The rightist regime was funded, aided and abetted by the Ray-gun regime and 250,000 Guatemalan Indians died by his Iran-Contra hand.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:26 AM
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47. Our authorities or theirs?
When I was at Cal in the late 80s, there was a huge display of drawings by Guatemalan children about the war in Dwinelle Hall. I couldn't even go by it after seeing it once until it was down three months later. Horrific.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:36 AM
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50. Making Grenada Safe
For rich American students that could not get admitted anywhere else.:sarcasm:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:39 AM
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51. Promising that "we would never cut and run"
and then 241 Marines were killed by a truck bomb. Adios Lebanon.
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Tabasco_Dave Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 05:44 AM
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52. Destroyed the Small family farm system
and boosted corporate farms.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:20 AM
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53. Gas lines. nt
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:24 AM
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55. Foreclosed houses being sold for a buck...
I remember all of what's been mentioned here-joblessness, inflation, homelessness, fear of nuclear obliteration, etc., all plastered over by that nauseating "Morning in America" pseudo-patriotic jingoism.

Several years ago, I met some punk kid who was raving about how wonderful that decade was. He was dumbfounded when I said that, no, my family did not make out just great during that time, and neither did anyone else I knew. His dad was one of those responsible for slapping up all those strip malls that wound up sitting empty. He made a killing on them. His dumbass son didn't understand that his dad was the only one who benefited from that.
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