Police in my yard right now, neighbor getting busted. ((pics)) ((update))

[Xicano]

The cop in my yard (4th pic) looks like he stepped in my dog's doodoo. LOL

I don't yet know the reason why my neighbor is getting busted.

((update)) I was able to talk with one of the police, but, I was fed a BS line I am sure. He told me neighbors complained someone from that house was shooting a pellet gun. If fact I am sure that was just a BS line because the helicopter when all the police first arrived was calling out the name of my neighbor to come out. Pellet gun story just doesn't add up.

[dionysus]

1. holy crap! now THAT's a bust!

[roguevalley]

230. your socialist tax dollars at work. nice yard by the way. take care.

[WeDidIt]

2. KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN!

Getting pics of this ain't worth getting shot and those cops look like they could start squeezing off rounds at the slightest perception of provocation.

[KittyWampus]

23. GET OFF MY LAWN!

[ProgressiveProfessor]

35. Get off my lawn or I will turn on the sprinklers!!!

[etherealtruth]

3. Be careful

I fear you need to be afraid of all parties involved.

[Posteritatis]

4. Yow, they're certainly erring on the side of caution.. (nt)

[safeinOhio]

5. What a fun time

to set off a pack of firecrackers.

[d_b]

13. ^^ this

[upi402]

274. ooooh

Ya got me with that!

:rofl:

[d_b]

6. fuggin a

does Rambo live there?

[JVS]

7. Go to the basement

[Hekate]

252. Very few basements in SoCal--our houses are perched on cement slabs.

Other than that, not a bad idea all things considered.

Hekate

[Dark]

8. holy fuck.

any idea what it's for?

[mdmc]

9. wildtown

[CTyankee]

10. Holy shite! Something BAAAD has happened with your neighbor!

If that happened next door to me it would scare the bejeezus out of me!

[malaise]

11. WTF???

Scary. Keep us posted.

[Flaneur]

12. We told him to pay those parking tickets!

[virgogal]

31. Naaaah---he smoked in the no-smoking area.

[laughingliberal]

75. ROFLMAO! nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

246. He mixed paper and plastic in the same recycle bin...

(Stay safe, Jimmy Olsen)

[gratuitous]

14. They even got a bear in the air!

I can see the group in picture 8 trooping back out of the house to report to the commander, "We found this spoon, sir."

[Canuckistanian]

121. LOL

Thanks for the laugh and the "Life of Brian" reference.
:rofl:

[Webster Green]

15. Looks serious.

Grow room perhaps?

[bridgit]

16. That house has been on someone's bulletin board for a while

[Robb]

26. +1. nt

[IDemo]

17. There appears to be a harmonica player in pic #1

[bluestateguy]

18. What is one of Chris Hanson's stings on Dateline NBC?

After those pedophiles get busted, they call out enough cops that you'd think Osama bin Laden was being captured.

[blondeatlast]

19. Stay safe for now. When it's over and some have left, politely ask one of the officers

what happened.

If you are polite and respectful, they will likely tell you allthat they can.

But for now--STAY SAFE. Please.

[CTyankee]

70. My experience with the New Haven PD is that they ask YOU if you can give

any information about illegal activities. A neighbor of ours had a break in and the police were outside since it was next door to us and asked me as I came out if I had seen anybody during the time of the robbery. I had not, but then, I don't look out of my windows during the day (it wouldn't occur to me). Spouse and I now believe it was an "inside" job, meaning a friend of the neighbors knew where the stuff was (a fur coat in the upstairs closet was stolen, for instance) and knew when they were there and not there and broke in. It was very suspicious to me...but I think that's probably what happened...

[Dappleganger]

115. Do NOT talk to the police...

never never never never never.

If something really happened you'll find out in the local news like everybody else.

[rcrush]

253. +1 Yes Stay the hell away

[chrisa]

306. Why not?

He could at least try when the police start leaving. It's better than nothing.

[Dappleganger]

337. Watch this video...

it'll tell you why. It's long but absolutely worth it! It's required viewing for each of our teenagers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

[Marr]

124. You must be very white indeed!

Or a stunningly beautiful woman or something.

"Be polite and respectful, and they will tell you all they can"!

LOL- that's a good one!

[EmeraldCityGrl]

20. They get to use all that neat gear Homeland Security dollars paid for.

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

It's more than very likely a hostage situation. Those are sharpshooters. nt

[wolfgangmo]

360. Those are NOT sharpshooters.

There is not a single sniper rifle in any of those pics. All of the them are for short to mid range kill shots.

What these cops are, given their positioning and haircuts, ex-military. And given how many of our soldiers are coming back with untreated PTSD, don't you think that giving them killing weapons and putting them in any police situation where they have to make life and death decisions is a little nuts UNTIL we actually start giving our veterans correct and enough treatment to deal with the mental issues some of them have come home with?

Just my 2 cents.

[snooper2]

362. Actually I went to highschool with the guy in the third pic..

He wasn't allowed in the army after graduation because he weighed 340lbs. He finally got off the twinkies and frozen pizzas and was accepted into the training academy many years back....




:rofl:

[Robb]

30. Looks like LAPD

...I expect they already had it.

[woo me with science]

21. Reminds me of that Dick Van Dyke episode

where the cops use the Petries' house as a stakeout before taking down his neighbor.

You should offer to help! :)


http://www.hulu.com/watch/114002/the-dick-van-dyke-show-the-man-from-my-uncle#x-0,vepisode,1,0

Season 5, Episode 27 – Aired: 4/20/1966
The Man from My Uncle
When government agent Harry Bond decides to use Ritchie's bedroom as a stakeout point for surveilling the home of Mr. Girard, the Petries' next door neighbor, Rob is captivated by the agent's gadgets and law enforcement lingo.


.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

28. lol.

[blondeatlast]

37. That was a great episode. It was how I learned to let people do their jobs without

my interference.

[woo me with science]

114. LOL.

You never tried to use their bananas as walkie talkies?

[ChicagoSuz219]

96. Whew! For a minute, I thought it was Jerry... LOL n/t

[woo me with science]

111. You could be right.

Did you ever notice that Bob Hartley had a dentist/orthodontist friend, "Jerry"...just like Rob Petrie did?

Very suspicious, if you ask me. I suspect the original "Jerry" may have had to get out of New Rochelle.

[ChicagoSuz219]

267. Maybe it was his code name... n/t

[lunatica]

22. Do you know the person or people in that house?

[Duer 157099]

24. Yikes! I thought I heard someone knocking on the door, maybe I should answer?

Howdy neighbor! Thanks for the tip.

(just kidding!)

:hi:

[KittyWampus]

27. FLUSH!

[YOY]

25. Keep us posted and keep your head down.

n.t.

[monmouth]

29. Lovely looking neighborhood. Looks like hostage situation to me too...n/t

[EmeraldCityGrl]

32. The local news service might pay you for those pics.

[pinniped]

33. What channel is his 'cache' going to be displayed on?

?

[Extend a Hand]

34. holee molee!

If that is for a drug bust that really sucks they use to just kick in the door. That looks like an armed invasion. Maybe you should away from the windows in case someone starts shooting!

[bbinacan]

36. Damn! n/t

[dems_rightnow]

38. They clearly expect...

.... your neighbor to be armed. Damn!

[WatchWhatISay]

39. C'mon its been over 20 minutes since you posted this, something must have happened by now

Don't keep us in the dark

[blondeatlast]

41. I think the poster is keeping his head down--and I am all for that.

Easy to say on the other end of a PC monitor--not so easy when it's next door. I know, I've been in the middle of a neighborhood hostage situation.

[Xicano]

43. Sorry, I've been out trying to find out.

So far the only I am told is to please go back inside.

[blondeatlast]

44. No need to apologize--just stay safe. DU will be here tomorrow.

I'd just as soon you be as well. :hug:

That's gotta be nerve-wracking as hell.

[dems_rightnow]

45. Don't be a wuss

Draw a bullseye on your chest and get back out there.

[Electric Monk]

50. Good time to exercise your 2nd amendment rights while you're at it, too

or maybe not...


Stay safe O8)

[pipoman]

247. ...

:rofl:

[supernova]

61. ...

:spank:

[malaise]

48. Stay safe

:grouphug:

[ChicagoSuz219]

93. Duh... I was gonna tell you that!

And, stay away from the windows! Does the term "innocent bystander" mean nothing to you? ;-)

btw, awesome pix! I'm just sayin'...

[WatchWhatISay]

49. Probably out it the street talking to the neighbors about what happened

What if he gets invited over to someone's house for a beer and forgets about reporting back to us?:wtf:

[City of Mills]

40. Someone told the cops your neighbors had a QP of pot

Surprised they didn't use an armored assault vehicle!

[mike_c]

42. "Dave's not here, man...."

:rofl:

[d_b]

46. lols

[laughingliberal]

78. Lol! nt

[Bitwit1234]

47. Probably drugs...isn't that it usually is.

[givemebackmycountry]

51. OK! OK! I'll turn my music down!

Jeeze - can't even listen to AC/DC anymore!

[Mira]

52. He'll never again forget to pick up the dog crap after this. N/T

[ThatsMyBarack]

53. That is HUGH!

I'm SERIES!

[Blue_In_AK]

54. Well, that's pretty exciting.

When they get done there, maybe you can send them up here to bust the crack dealers across the street. Thanks. :)

[lamp_shade]

55. Something to do while I'm waiting >

[lunatica]

56. You imitate Glen Beck?

[lamp_shade]

58. That too.

[Warpy]

57. Call the news stations, tell them where you are

and that you've got still pictures.

This is a SWAT standoff and you can bet it'll hit the evening news.

Your neighbor either did something spectacularly bad or the cops have the wrong house. The former is a lot more likely.

[Shell Beau]

59. That looks very serious. Is that a SWAT team?

If it is drugs, it is a lot, and the person must be considered armed and dangerous. Keep us posted.

My brother used to be on the SWAT team, and they only did stuff like that for serious stuff. Hostage situation, murderer, armed and dangerous person on the loose, etc. If they ever did it for drugs, it was usually a meth lab, and the people were always considered armed and dangerous if they used that kind of force. Stay safe. You can find out soon enough, so don't be too anxious to see what is going on.

[Webster Green]

60. Hell, they come into pot clubs like that...

Armed to the teeth to take medicine away from frail and suffering cancer patients. Pigs are fucking wussies.

[Shell Beau]

62. They do not. That is ridiculous.

And cops aren't wussies. I guess some of them are, but they put themselves in danger every single time they leave their house to go do their jobs. You can hate on cops all you want, but you are talking to the wrong person about it. Hate on them with someone else who shares you view. I don't.

[Webster Green]

74. Uh, yeah, they sure do come in just like those pics.

They come into the pot clubs with all their bullshit GI Joe crap, even though there is really no threat to their safety at all.

It's all part of perpetuating the hoax that cannabis is some evil dangerous drug. You are uninformed on the subject. Sorry.

Yeah, I hate the mutherfuckers. I always will. They are out to ruin someone's day, or perhaps their entire life.

[Shell Beau]

79. No, I am not uninformed. As a matter of fact, I am pretty informed.

And I don't care if you hate cops. Good on you. Have a cookie.

[Webster Green]

118. Thanks for the cookie. Here, have a look at what you deny...

This was last year, but the tactics have not changed since then.

They do indeed come in full battle gear, with itchy trigger fingers. Sorry, you are uninformed on this particular subject. I am quite familiar with it.

Los Angeles medical marijuana dispensary bust
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, August 1, 2008 3:41 PM


The LA Times reports on a DEA raid at Organica Collective, a Culver City medical marijuana dispensary.

Gina Ferazzi's photos of the raid are wonderful. My favorite is the one of a hipster-looking agent with a healthy soul-patch on his chin and a giant pistol on his belt.
The federal operation came on the same day an appellate court in San Diego ruled that federal law does not preempt the state's law allowing the use of medical marijuana -- a ruling touted by supporters of California's medical marijuana law as a significant win.
...
Clyde Carey, 50, of Marina del Rey was at the store Friday visiting a friend when agents burst in through the locked front door, he said.
"We heard some noise outside, and then the door literally burst in, and the DEA came in in full combat gear, told everybody to get on the floor and put their hands behind their heads," Carey said. "It was like, literally, an episode of "24," when they bust in on a terrorist cell."

Carey, who said he has multiple sclerosis and has been a dispensary customer since February, stood across the street near a Starbucks with about half a dozen people who had witnessed the raid, watching agents walk in and out.
He said DEA agents searched and cuffed the roughly 25 people inside the building, which also includes four upstairs rooms. Then agents started searching the premises, removing computers, medicine and money, and using a steel cylinder battering ram to get into the upstairs bedrooms, Carey said.

OK? Now say you're sorry for calling what I said "ridiculous". :hippie:

[Shell Beau]

135. Well I certainly don't agree with that. I also don't thi nk

the guys have itchy trigger fingers. They don't want to kill someone, I promise you.

It is a shame that happened, but to act like that happens all of the time is ridiculous. I don't think every cop is an angel either. They don't make the laws. I know many who don't agree with some of the laws they have to enforce. Bad situations happen with cops, I know that. I saw the Rodney King beating. Unfortunately, the shitty cops ruin it for the good ones. I can see the news reporting the good cops do. Oh wait,that isn't good news. Only the shitty stuff is good to put on the news. Ride a night with a cop, and just see the people they have to deal with and the things they have to see.

Now let's just say there is an armed murderer on the loose next door to you, would you be ok with this kind of take down? Would you have been ok with a cop running into a burning building, risking their life to save yours? Would you want to be the guy who found a murdered little 6 year old in a garbage can? Would you want to be the person who had to go tell the parents their child died in a car accident? Being a cop isn't just about busting people for drugs and writing tickets. They aren't all motherfuckers.

[Webster Green]

152. There are a few good ones. I agree.

But, I can assure you that this is standard operating procedure for busting medicinal cannabis dispensaries.

They get their rocks off harassing patients and dirty hippies.

[Hekate]

254. I remember it well; was especially appalled atthe presence of Blackwater agents doing the dirty work

The raids are ongoing.

Hekate

[lib2DaBone]

287. DEA agents are scummy looking....

If a DEA Agent uses Cocaine in the line of duty.. to trap other users... doesn't that make him part of the problem.. not the solution?

If a DEA Agent picks up a few hundred dollars from a floating crap game behind the projects and sticks the money in his pocket... doesn't that add up to the same thing as armed robbery?

Only if government does it.. it's "OK".

The WOD is the real problem.

[Midlodemocrat]

94. HAHAHAHA. Stop breaking the law.

Problem solved.

:rofl:

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the anti-cop posts on this site because eventually you get to the point where the cops treated you like shit because you broke the law. Ubiquitous you, here, not you specifically.

Some funny, funny shit.


:rofl:

I've NEVER had a problem with the police. Nor do I know anyone who has. Guess why? I don't break the law. Trust me. It ain't that hard.

[Shell Beau]

106. I am so damn tired of you

making sense!!!! :P

And let's not forget that the cops don't make the laws.

[Webster Green]

127. No, but states do, and we have changed the law.

The people of the State of California voted overwhelmingly to change the absurd cannabis law.

The feds need to butt out of our business. Got it now?

[Webster Green]

122. Actually, we changed the law. The feds need to figure that out.

States rights and all that. Laugh all you want. We have them far outnumbered. They will fail.

[Shell Beau]

140. I don't think many cops are anti-pot.

I am quite sure many are, but they don't get to decide the laws. And from what I know, and yes I am informed, they only want to go after the big suppliers. Again, it isn't their choice. They have bosses, and there are a lot of politics involved.

[LeftyMom]

239. Maybe the situation is different where you're at Shel.

Here it varies A LOT from county to county and city to city. Some of them have official or unofficial rules that they treat misdemeanor possession as their lowest priority, or something to that effect. Others do anything but.

The worst story I know of happened pretty close to me- there's a gardening store that specializes in hydroponic gardening stuff, grow lights, etc. Now of course you can get all that to start your tomatoes inside early, or to grow your own pot, but honestly most of it's probably for pot, we have a really long growing season here for most anything you can put outside without getting arrested.

So the cops from the next county over (!) were driving over to this place, following the patrons home, then digging through their trash bins for any evidence they were growing pot. This resulted in quite a few incidents that looked like the above, for old folks with cancer or AIDS or whatever growing a little pot for themselves and a few sick friends. The reason is this: if they bust you for distro and get a conviction, they can seize any of your assets used in the crime, which means if you drove your car into town to get some organic fertilizer for your plants you've just given the county mounties a car, and if your grow lights were in your bedroom closet you just gave them a house, too.

There's no incentive not to be an abusive dick when there's so much money in it.

[Name removed]

151. Deleted message

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[Webster Green]

163. You don't think it is a state's rights issue?

You are certainly entitled to that opinion. I strongly disagree, as did the appellate court judge.

I never threatened to commit violence, so I don't know where you're getting the idiotic McVeigh bullshit.

I'm saying there are far too many activists, growers, and dispensaries for them to ever win their dumbass war on medicinal pot.

[Warren DeMontague]

171. Smoke a joint in the privacy of your own home, you deserve to have your door kicked in

and be dragged off to prison. Because.... you're.... BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!

And anyone who says otherwise must be some sort of Tim McVeigh maniac.

:sarcasm:

[Midlodemocrat]

177. Yeah. About that.

When has that happened actually? Ever? If you weren't already on the cop's radar for other offenses?

Oh, right. Never.

Most of my friends imbibe. I do not. Personal choice. NOT ONE of them has had an issue with the police.

Wonder why? Could it be that they are law abiding in other ways and the cop's aren't TRYING to bust them?

Hmm. Novel concept.

[Shell Beau]

180. They didn't get their door busted down? Cops so ready to kill them

because of those damned itchy trigger fingers? REally? Wow. You must live a charmed life!

[Midlodemocrat]

186. Shell, you won't believe this!!!

But last summer? At Friday Night Cheers by the Pool? When I went up to the tiki bar to get Mr. and I a beer? I SMELLED POT!!!!!

And, the cop who was on duty was standing right next to me!!!! I looked at him. He looked at me and rolled his eyes!!!

Of course, immediately afterwards, he went into SWAT mode and took out the granny and her 'boyfriend' (Oh, sure, like we didn't see that coming)

And then we all had ice cream. It was good night. Kind of cool for an August evening, actually.

[Shell Beau]

189. So glad he took the granny down.Now he is a real cop!!!!

:rofl:

[Midlodemocrat]

194. It was AWESOME!!!

first he put the old biddy in a headlock and then he body slammed her down on the table right next to the Jimmy Buffet Cover band!!

Best part? It wasn't her!!!! It was the woman selling snowcones across the pool who was toking!!!!

So, he holstered his Sig Sauer and jumped into the pool, wading between all the floats and those small kids that wanted to play Sharks and Minnows and then he JUMPED OUT!!

And took that soccer mom down in ONE BULLET!!!!

The service was sad, but not really because all we could think was that she had broken the law.

[Shell Beau]

219. Ok, so I was so kidding about him being a real cop before.

He is now though. How freakin' awesome. Put that soccer mom in her place where she should be.

[druidity33]

293. your friends...

who imbibe. Are they mostly white people? Because you know the drug laws affect minority populations (esp AA communities) to a much greater extent.

I think you are being pretty naive here. The "You won't have a problem if you don't break any laws" argument was the primary one used by the Rethugs when the whole FISA/Telecom spying issue was before us, remember? As i recall, that debacle didn't work out too good for the American people.


:shrug:

[robinlynne]

320. It happened to my little brother. just like in the pictures. for one tiny

little wilting plant. at 4 in the morning. They broke down his door with a battering ram. handcuffed him to a chair. called me to come get his dog.
It was terrifying. Some enighbor called that they saw a plant. one plant. the cops were so mad they didn't find more that they treated him doubly bad. Threw his whole house apart looking for intent to distribute, which of course, there was not. The whole thing was right out of a rambo movie. I saw it with my own eyes. LAPD. I was so glad they let me come get the crying dog. Or noone would have even known what happened, except for the neighbors.

[Randall Flagg]

138. How's life in the white tower?

I did break the law once. I did 30 in a 25mph zone. Got a ticket.

I Couldn't afford it so I went to court and told the judge I needed more time. I was 18 with long hair and this was the early 70's.

Suffice it to say, the took me to jail, beat the shit out of me and shaved my head.

Shit happens but that left a terrible taste in my mouth for the legal system.

[Shell Beau]

141. That was 40 years ago.

[Randall Flagg]

147. And things have only gotten more militant since then.

And the illegalities have become even more blatant such as in the idiot who thought he could turn off the cameras to beat the shit out of the woman arrested for DUI the other day and then turn the camera back on to see her in a pool of blood and a half-dozen injuries with the explanation "she fell down."

He was fired but many more aren't.

[Shell Beau]

155. And many more would never do that.

You can't hate them all for some's actions. There are some nasty evil cops out there, for sure. Same goes for a lot of occupations. There are also some wonderful ones out there that get called names they didn't do anything to deserve. Were those pigs that ran into the burning twin towers and died trying to save lives? Just wondering.

[Midlodemocrat]

159. There are bad cops. There are also bad lawyers, bad teachers

bad garbage collectors. THere are bad people. Period. And most of them have to make money to support themselves.

To base an opinion on an entire profession because of the actions of a few, or even 1? Despicable. Hardly progressive.

[Shell Beau]

165. Certainly not progressive, but it seems that cop hating

gets a pass here. Now if we were to say these things about many other professions here on DU, the comments would be deleted. Hell,some may even get banned (I have seen that happen for far lesser things), but cop bashing is A-OK at DU. Who cares that some DUers are cops? Doesn't matter.

[Randall Flagg]

228. You live in a different world than many do.

You have a tag about your kittens, a hamster for your avatar...

Kid, it ain't all rainbows and unicorns out there.

Too many innocents are killed or harmed by the judicial system here in the U.S.

We have the highest per capita jailed population in the world. There's something FUCKING WRONG with the system...

Unless you are one of the top 10% of income earners in the country it will catch up with you. I promise.

And I'm sad to be able to make that promise.

Get sick and the insurance co. doesn't want to pay? Too bad. It's the law.

Your credit card interest rates go astronomical? Too bad, it's the law.

Your auto insurance cancels you and you can't drive anymore? Too bad. It's the law.

[tavalon]

271. What the hell were you thinking picking your username?

You could have picked Nick Andros, Stu Redmond, even Tom Cullen, laws yes, but you picked the Walking Dude? Not a real liberal kind of guy, that Flagg.

Should I sympathize with the devil?

Sympathy For The Devil

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

[Randall Flagg]

325. But he's also The Gunslinger who is trying

to rectify his past. :)

[tavalon]

340. Well, that teaches me

I quit reading King before the gunslinger series. I didn't know this character made a return.

[Randall Flagg]

343. I pretty much had stopped as well.

The Gunslinger series came out in a limited release by Donald Grant publishing before a general release by Plume.

IMHO, it's his best work since The Stand.

[tavalon]

356. I've never read a better book than The Stand,

and you are the second person in a month to use almost the same words. I think I'm going to read that series.

[Midlodemocrat]

150. STOP IT. You are confusing hyperbole with facts.

I don't even know you any more.


:cry:

[Midlodemocrat]

148. It's AWESOME!!!!

Did 85 in a 55 two years ago. Got a ticket. Paid said ticket. Offered the cop a Perrier.

[Randall Flagg]

162. Seriously. If you have no or little money you stand to be abused by the system.

(Damn that sounds so 70's)

Ask people in Joe Arpaio's area.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jPkUf9Hf3bYW25OGLnwMpaM3v7hAD9DRL2VG0

A federal judge has found grounds for sanctioning an Arizona sheriff's office for its acknowledged destruction of records in a lawsuit that accuses deputies of racially profiling countless Hispanics in immigration patrols.

U.S. District Judge Murray Snow held off on imposing the sanctions against the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in the Friday ruling, but indicted he would do so at a later date once related issues were ironed out.

Since early 2008, Arpaio has run 13 immigration and crimes sweeps consisting of deputies and posse volunteers who flood an area of a city — in some cases heavily Latino areas — to seek out traffic violators and arrest other offenders.

The handful of Latinos who filed the lawsuit against Arpaio's office alleged that officers based some traffic stops on the race of Hispanics who were in vehicles, had no probable cause to pull them over and made the stops so they could inquire about their immigration status.

Arpaio is known for tough jail policies, including housing inmates in canvas tents, and pushing the bounds for how local law enforcement agencies can confront illegal immigration.

The U.S. Justice Department said it's investigating his office for alleged discrimination and for unconstitutional searches and seizures, but won't provide any details of its examination. The sheriff believes the inquiry is focused on his immigration efforts.

Arpaio has repeatedly denied the racial profiling allegations, saying people pulled over in the sweeps were approached because deputies had probable cause to believe they had committed crimes. It was only afterward that deputies found many of them were illegal immigrants, he has said.

more at the link and there's tons more out there.

[Midlodemocrat]

172. Beg to disagree.

There are a great many law abiding people who are at the poverty level. I was. When I taught high school in 80s, I was earning a grand total of $9800 a year and raising two homeless teenagers in a one bedroom apartment. AND, going to grad school.

Being poor doesn't give you carte blanche to disregard the law. Not talking stealing bread to feed the fam, here either and I think you know that.

[Warren DeMontague]

145. Some laws are wrong. The guys arrested in Texas for consensual gay sex in their apt. for instance.

Remember? Lawrence v. Texas?

Well, guess what. Unlike consensual adult sodomy in Texas pre-Lawrence, Medical Marijuana is also the LAW in many states, and furthermore, the criminalization of a relatively benign plant, and the 60 million otherwise law-abiding citizens who smoke it in the privacy of their own homes, is WRONG, too.

Yet we spend $40 Billion a year on helicopters, armored vehicles, and heavily armed swat teams to wage "war" on it. It's fucking idiotic, it's a travesty of injustice, and it's well past time the we the voters and taxpayers put an end to that nonsense.

[Midlodemocrat]

157. Do you really think what went down in that OP was because

someone was using marijuana medicinally?

Because if you do? :rofl:

My SIL used it when she was dying. Illegally, actually because MSKCC doesn't endorse its use. No problem with that. I do, however, have a huge fucking problem with the shithead across the street who is dealing it and has brought gang violence to my neighborhood.

[Warren DeMontague]

161. And obviously, prohibition is the answer. Just ask Al Capone.

Certainly, it must the pot that's causing the violence, not the criminality of the enterprise.

Anyway, if you have such a problem with the gang-banging weed dealer who you claim lives across the street from you, report him to the cops. Then watch your tax dollars at work. Whee!

[Midlodemocrat]

168. LOL. Have. He just finished a stint in jail.

I only wish he had gotten a heavier sentence.

Know why? Because dealing pot is illegal. I have no problem with legalizing marijuana, but right now? It's illegal.

Abiding by the laws isn't a bad thing. Not abiding is.

[Warren DeMontague]

173. So when gay sex was illegal in Texas, you supported gay people not having sex?

Really?

I mean, it was AGAINST THE LAW, and the law is always right.

[Midlodemocrat]

176. Completely different from a kid dealing drugs.

Private versus interfering with my right to not have a drug dealer on my street endangering my family.

I don't give a rat's ass what people do in their bedrooms. If you want to smoke pot? Have at it. Just keep your neighbors out of it, so we don't have to be concerned that our cars will end up as destroyed as yours when one of your deals goes wrong.

And this is an upper middle class neighborhood. Not the inner city.

[Warren DeMontague]

263. Personally? I haven't smoked it in a very long time. I think Clinton was president, last time I did.

And yet I'm more convinced than ever that the drug war is a waste and a sham.

I'm glad to hear you're not concerned about what people do in the privacy of their own homes, although it's sort of surprising you're not concerned that we piss away $40B in tax dollars every year to pursue and prosecute people for exactly that sort of thing. The prisons are filled to capacity with non-violent drug offenders, lots of them users- not dealers.

And like I said, it's been a long time since I've been a pot smoker, but I have a hard time believing that all of a sudden every time a hippie buys an eighth there are shotgun-wielding thugs around every corner. I still go to shows where some folks, I've heard, do stuff like buy pot in the parking lot. I haven't noticed any uptick in bandana wearing gangbangers taking over the jamband weed circuit. Something like 50 or 60 million people smoke pot in this country, most of them otherwise law abiding folks who go to work and pay their taxes. And if there is crime around the pot trade, hey-- it's all the more reason to legalize it.

But if whatever-it-is that's taking place in your upper class neighborhood is troubling you so much, call the cops. Seriously.

[PufPuf23]

297. I didn't enhale the entire Clinton Admin. Really.

just what exactly is an enhale again?

[Warren DeMontague]

339. That would require a very, very large bong.

Or something.

[Webster Green]

183. You're a narc too?

Fuck! That's really fucked up. You turned someone in for pot?

Wow! :thumbsdown:

[Midlodemocrat]

187. LOL. Yup. And I'd do it again.

He was selling it out of his house and apparently his customers weren't happy. Not sacrificing my kids so fuck for brains can make a few bucks.

He could just get a job. Oh, wait. No he couldn't. He couldn't pass the pee test.

Maybe the dump is hiring.

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[Shell Beau]

197. If there are crazy people coming in and out of the house across

the street at all hours of the night in my neighborhood, I would also turn them in. It isn't narc'ing. It is about me protecting my child. I have no clue what kind of drugs they may be doing. They may be high as a kite on pot and be fine, but many times drug deals can involve weapons. Not ok with me. People get killed over a damned nickel bag. Doesn't mean I think pot should be illegal, but illegal activities can bring out the worst in people. Drug dealers are often targets. I don't want that across the street from me.

[Midlodemocrat]

204. You should have seen, and I think I told you about the night

the kids and I came home from some school thing and DD (drug dealer)'s car had been smashed to bits with something like a bat or a pipe.

My friend across the street heard it. It was pretty damned scary. But, hey. I want little DD to be able to sell his drugs because if he doesn't? He might actually have to get a legitimate job and then what would happen?

I, nor my neighbors, will never apologize for what this kid did. If it was for personal use and didn't spill over to violence in the 'hood? Not interested. He put my kids at risk. Unacceptable.

And, his mother is an asshole for putting up with this.

[Shell Beau]

205. You protect your family first.That makes you a good mom.

People get killed and beaten every single day for drug deals gone bad. I would never allow that to happen across the street from me either. But, oh it is just pot. Who cares? If there is a chance of violence happening around my kid, you better believe I am going to do something about it.

[Midlodemocrat]

208. And not just my kids. All the kids on this street. It takes a village.

I believe that. Firmly. I will always, always, always err on the side of protecting children. Hell, I've been on field trips when they didn't have chaperones when my own kids were on a different one.

It takes a village.

[Shell Beau]

212. It absolutely takes a village. A big ole village.

Our children are our future. They are precious. We must do everything to protect them. It has nothing to do with pot either. And if anyone here thinks that calling the cops on any drug dealer is wrong, then they are fools. People get killed every day over a bad drug deal. I will not have that going on across the street from me. Period. I would be happy for people to go smoke their pot and eat and laugh or whatever they want to do, but that isn't reality. If someone feels shortchanged, they may have no problem pulling out a gun. It happens every single day in too many places.

[Warren DeMontague]

264. You're seriously suggesting that the streets are full of violent pot smokers?

That people smoke pot and then start pulling out guns?

Like I said, if there's crime around the drug trade, it's directly related to prohibition and its attendant idiocy. Al Capone and the gangs with tommyguns were an outgrowth of alcohol prohibition, not the alcohol itself. Of course, I've seen a helluva lot more violent, angry drunks than violent, angry stoners. Unlike you, who apparently lives on the Planet of Dangerous Potheads ---straight out of "Reefer Madness".

Speaking of what isn't reality.

[Luminous Animal]

278. These people are nuts. San Francisco has a no arrest policy for pot...

and it is working well. People buy and smoke pot all over this city, EVEN IN FRONT OF CHILDREN, and nobody gives a flying fuck. Nobody is shooting anyone in the streets over pot.

[Shell Beau]

315. Well come to Jackson MS and get back with me.

You may can speak for your town, but you certainly can't speak for others. This goes on in a whole hell of a lot of towns. Every single day.

[Luminous Animal]

354. I find your fear ridiculous.

That would be "welcome."

[Shell Beau]

364. No actually it wasn't welcome.

I meant what I wrote. Thanks though. Hope that made you feel extra special.

And I don't have a fear of it. It doesn't go on in my neighborhood. It goes on in a lot of neighborhoods in Jackson, MS. I know people who are fearful of it though. Maybe you should move in with them and tell them how ridiculous they are for being scared of the gunshots they hear going off.

[Midlodemocrat]

303. No, but the kid across the street who is dealing dealt badly obviously

and his car ended up shot up one night. Right next to where my daughter was playing jump rope with a friend.

People tend to get pissed about things like that.

[RedRocco]

347. first you say smashed with a bat

then you say shot up ??

[Midlodemocrat]

348. Yup.

He's obviously pissed more than one person off. But, hey, when you sleep all day and only get up to deal drugs, mistakes happen.

What I can't understand is why his mother puts up with this. She has minor children in the house.

And, don't get me started on the fact that the truck that a bat was taken to is still sitting on the street, essentially destroyed.

The kid is scum.

[Shell Beau]

314. I never said that pot smokers were violent.

I actually said it had nothing to do with pot at all. It is really more about money and the fact that it is illegal. But to think that people don't get popped because they cheated someone on drugs (whatever the drugs may be) is silly. I don't care if everyone around me smokes pot. Good for them. The world may be a better place if more people did smoke pot, but it is the dealing that causes problems because of the money involved. And no, I don't want that going on next door to me.

[elehhhhna]

327. our nextdoor neighbor's tenn DD sson managed to

get his house burned down over a deal-gone-wrong. White kid, so even wwhen he had dfriveup service all Saturday afternoon int he cul-de-sac the sheriff wouldn't bust him. "Parents who can afford lawyers get their kids off on ""no probable cause..." said the newbie sheriff.

[proteus_lives]

232. Yeah, drug dealers are awesome fellas.

:eyes:

naive.....

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[Shell Beau]

I can't disagree with you there.

I would love to see pot legalized everywhere. But since it is illegal, and if I have some, I can't really bitch about getting busted for it. Cops don't make things illegal. And many will let someone go if they have a small amount, but they could also lose their jobs for doing so. Change the laws.

[proud2BlibKansan]

169. I was pulled over one time for no reason and given a speeding ticket when I wasn't speeding

I filed a complaint and was told I was in a neighborhood with drug houses and when the cop traced my plates and discovered I didn't live in that neighborhood he must have decided I was there to buy drugs. A woman in her 40s driving down a main street in a van with a bumper sticker from my kid's school looked like a druggie to this cop?

My husband was a long haired hippie musician in the 60s and his entire band was held overnight in a small town jail for driving down the street.

I have black friends who won't come over to my house because of the racial profiling by cops in the suburban city where I live.

You must live a charmed life. Cops do indeed treat law abiding citizens like shit. Not all of them but it does happen. You are delusional if you believe it does not. Or if you believe that never breaking the law means you will never have a problem with the police. Good luck with that plan. LOL

[Shell Beau]

178. She didn't say some weren't assholes. In fact, she said the opposite.

There are bad people everywhere. In every profession. But grouping all together because of some bad ones is very unprogressive, and serves no purpose other than to hate. And I don't like hate. It is one of the reasons I joined DU.

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[proud2BlibKansan]

182. She said

"HAHAHAHA. Stop breaking the law.

Problem solved."

To claim that the cops won't fuck with you if you don't break the law is absurd.

[EFerrari]

241. You never watched "Serpico", did you?

:)

[Mopar151]

277. Dude, it's no laughing matter.

I'm a big galoot - I have to start almost any interaction with police by defusing "short cop syndrome'. I've been rousted for DWI while stone cold sober, taking a 10 min. nap in a safe spot - because a passenger had been drinking, so they could'nt drive. I've seen vehicles impounded because a passenger was the wrong kind of people. I've seen an ex-MP kick kids "into shape" at gunpoint, and use handcuffs as instruments of assault. It's a practice of a neighboring jurisdiction to strand those released from custody 50 miles from where they were arrested. Should protective custody involve pepper spray? I can go on a long ways... and it's not so funny.
Yes, there are some good, hardworking police officers. And there are thugs with badges. And overcompensating jerks, and drunks.

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[Gormy Cuss]

305. I've been treated like shit by cops at least three times in my life when I wasn't breaking the law.

It happened to me once as a child, twice as an adult. I'm not part of the cop hate bandwagon around here -- I worked for a PD and I have three family members who are LE. I respect MOST cops for doing well at a hard job, but I also know that not all cops should be in that job and that some departments (LAPD being one of them) are known for going overboard.

[Flaneur]

312. I love, love, love the gloating asshole posts on this site.

[wolfgangmo]

363. You really need to watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

A cops job, when talking to anyone is to close a case. In many cases it has less to do with guilt or innocence rather than closing the case. If a cop is asking you a question, it isn't to pass the time or to eliminate you as a perp. It is to close the books.

And yes, I used to be an officer.

[intheflow]

296. Um, yes they do.

I agree with you cops are wussies, but you're wrong about them not entering pot shops like that. Hell, I have a friend who had a legal prescription for a med, but bought it through the mail from Canada because it was so much cheaper than here. A full SWAT regiment like the one in the OP crashed into her house in the middle of the night one night, tore up her whole house while training automatic rifles on her and her husband (they were in bed, it was midnight). They found the one bottle of med along with all her other (U.S. bought) pharmacy products for her condition, and left. They didn't even take the med they invaded for. So please don't assume all cops act the way you may have witnessed. There's an awful lot of overkill in an awful lot of police work.

[proteus_lives]

231. The DU tough guy in his natural habitat.

:rofl:

[jwirr]

185. I thought meth lab right away. I have seen this kind of force before in that case. nt

[Midlodemocrat]

190. If only meth were pot!!! Imagine the support that lab would be getting from DU!!!!!!

:rofl:

Not at you. Not at all.

[Shell Beau]

214. I have known of SWAT teams to bust a meth lab also.

If I am not mistaken, many meth dealers are heavily armed, so that could be a reason for the SWAT. That and of course, the dangers of the chemicals.

[Don Caballero]

63. You really shouldn't be taking pictures of law enforcement

Did they give you permission to record this?

[Shell Beau]

I don't see the problem. The news crew could just as easily be there.

Surprised they aren't.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

66. +1 on edit to add..... did the OP hear anyone say..... "Are you

scared yet??".

[JoeyT]

67. He's taking the pictures from inside his own house.

He doesn't need their permission.

[HughBeaumont]

71. Why not? They seem to have no problem taking photos of various anti-war protestors.

Guess exercising First Amendment rights gets you a "permanent record" now.

[Posteritatis]

77. Permission isn't needed. (nt)

[Luminous Animal]

80. It is not against the law to take pictures of law enforcement.

In fact, the ACLU has one several cases around this issue.

[Don Caballero]

85. If they ask you to stop filming and you continue it is against the law

If a person is out on the street filming something and a police officer tells you to stop it becomes an unlawful act to continue.

[Shell Beau]

87. Is that the law for every city?

[Don Caballero]

90. I do believe that is a Federal law

If someone, anyone asks you to stop filming them you must comply. Police officers have special rights when it comes to this law because photographers could get in the way of them conducting their duty.

[Shell Beau]

95. I don't have a problem with that, but I wonder if celebrities who get

hounded by the paparazzi have those same rights. It may be one of those laws that is there, but isn't really enforced unless it is a law enforcement official asking someone to stop.

[Edweird]

98. Got any proof or is it just 'faith' in your authoritarian bullcrap?

Hint: You're completely and pathetically wrong.

Photographers rights.

[Luminous Animal]

101. You are wrong. There is no such law.

[Don Caballero]

103. So anyone can go on the street and film anything and everyone they want?

What if the person asks you to stop and you don't? Isn't that a form of harassment?

[Edweird]

107. Yep. Authoritarian FAIL.

[leftstreet]

156. +1

[Luminous Animal]

119. Pretty much, yes. As long as it is not used for commercial purposes.

Then the photographer or filmmaker would have to get a release. A private citizen may lodge a complaint against harassment but merely taking photos of law enforcement or anyone else would not qualify as harassment.

[beevul]

123. Uh yeah.

There is no expectation of privacy in public.

[TommyO]

153. If you are in public, you can take photographs

Educate yourself:

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

Permissible Subjects
Despite misconceptions to the contrary, the following subjects can almost always be photographed lawfully from public places:
accident and fire scenes
children
celebrities
bridges and other infrastructure
residential and commercial buildings
industrial facilities and public utilities
transportation facilities (e.g., airports)
Superfund sites
criminal activities
law enforcement officers

[tekisui]

309. Public place, public face. Photograph what you want.

Especially cops. I always stand close with my camera when cops are talking to someone on the street. Documentation keeps them more honest, and can be used against them if they go to far.

[Randall Flagg]

142. You think that taking pictures from the window of your own home is illegal?

Come on, think about the argument you're making.

[Xicano]

200. Here you go.

COP Watch short vid clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rc3BH2XhY


Their website: http://copwatch.com/AAAindex.html

[Xicano]

210. I believe you are incorrect.

You can film anybody in a public area. You can film anybody in a non public area so long as you are in a public area or on your own property. Recoding sound of a private conversation without permission is where you start getting into violating the law. Filming from private property where you got no permission to be on said property is not lawful. Obstructing police from performing their duty is not lawful.

[Nailzberg]

389. Cops can ask me to leave an unsafe area, but cannot make me turn off my camera.

[Luminous Animal]

105. It is not a law in any city nor is there a federal law.

Lawsuits filed by the ACLU have established that photographing or filming law enforcement officials is a First Amendment right which ensures that citizens have the ability to monitor government.

[Wizard777]

292. The charge would be disobeying the lawful order of a police officer.

But that order is rarely lawful. In the cases where it is lawful it usually involves matters of national security. Police misuse and abuse that charge because they mis-cite it. They say it as disobeying the direct order of a police officer. But it's actually disobeying the lawful order of a police officer. That is in deed a crime. But you are free to disobey any unlawful order given by any authority. That goes all the way back to English common law.

[laughingliberal]

89. I'm thinking they haven't asked the poster to stop. nt

[Luminous Animal]

131. They have no right to ask the poster to stop.

[Luminous Animal]

100. If the photographer is not interfering, then law enforcement has no right

to ask a citizen to stop filming or taking photographs.

Law enforcement may abuse their power and illegally arrest photographers and damage or destroy equipment but, when cities have been sued over such behavior, the city (and law enforcement) loses based on First Amendment rights.

[Bozita]

120. Yes. Here's a pdf titled "The Photographer's Right"

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

The Photographer’s Right

A Downloadable Flyer Explaining Your Rights When Stopped or Confronted for Photography

The Photographer’s Right is a downloadable guide that is loosely based on the Bust Card and the Know Your Rights pamphlet that used to be available on the ACLU website. It may be downloaded and printed out using Adobe Acrobat Reader. You may make copies and carry them in your wallet, pocket, or camera bag to give you quick access to your rights and obligations concerning confrontations over photography. You may distribute the guide to others, provided that such distribution is not done for commercial gain and credit is given to the author.

Download The Photographer’s Right in PDF format

http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf

[Wizard777]

290. Not really. Only if it's a lawful order. 9 times out of 10 it's not a lawful order.

[Odin2005]

323. A yes, God forbid the Fascist Pigs have their BS behavior recorded.

[Shell Beau]

349. I didn't realize you knew the officers in the pictures.

Oh wait, you don't. Way to go though. I know I love to stereotype. It is what makes me a democrat.

[laughingliberal]

83. I'm pretty sure they didn't give permission for the video of the Rodney King beating, either. nt

[Bluebear]

117. OMG that's your first reaction?

[LWolf]

128. I wonder if they asked permission to move into his yard with weapons. nt

[Don Caballero]

130. Touche. Good point.

[Shell Beau]

143. Well I do know they don't have to do that.

Especially if there is an armed and dangerous person in the area. Not saying there is, but something crazy is going down. But they don't have to anyway.

[TommyO]

146. No permission is required

The poster took the photographs from his property, and there are no laws against taking photographs of law enforcement.

Why shouldn't the OP take these pictures?

[Don Caballero]

166. Could hamper law enforcement's duty if photographs are taken

In this day and age with Twitter, text messaging, etc. criminals could send photos, videos of where law enforcement is setting up for the action. It would give the criminal the upper hand.

[TommyO]

302. Would you want to make taking photographs of law enforcement personnel illegal?

Because right now, it isn't.

[Don Caballero]

304. Yes, if you are not given implicit permission by those you are taking

photos of. I know if I was walking down the street and someone kept taking pictures of me I would feel violated.

[tekisui]

310. "Feeling violated" isn't the law. It is our right to observe and

document police actions. There is nothing they can do about, nor should there be. They are better behaved when they know they are being recorded. And, there is no situation where photographing the police would hamper their work.

[TommyO]

318. No permission is required to take photographs in public.

Did you bother to read anything in "The Photographer's Right" that I, and others, provided the link to?

Members of the public have a very
limited scope of privacy rights when
they are in public places. Basically,
anyone can be photographed without
their consent except when they have
secluded themselves in places where
they have a reasonable expectation of
privacy such as dressing rooms, restrooms,
medical facilities, and inside
their homes.

[PavePusher]

344. You are not a public official...

engaging in public business, in a public venue.

[Renew Deal]

270. Permission isn't needed to take a picture of a cop carrying a machine gun on your lawn.

:wtf:

[pipoman]

291. Nonsense

[HysteryDiagnosis]

64. Did he give some laptops to some students?? Curious... n/t

[undeterred]

65. "busted" seems inadequate

[Shell Beau]

69. Yeah, this looks like a takedown.

I was expecting to see someone in cuffs being put into the back of the car.

[JoeyT]

68. I'm so glad that's never happened at a neighbor's house here.

I'd so go to jail. Screaming "Open fiiiiiiiire!" and "Chaaaarge!" would soon see me in handcuffs.

[Forkboy]

72. I'm struggling to decide if these pics make me feel safer or not.

[Shell Beau]

73. Well it may depend on what the person did that is about to get taken down!

[Forkboy]

76. Well that was my thoughts...

Though I lived with both cops and bad guys with guns and neither made me feel very safe. Let's just say this stuff makes me pine for the fjords.

[leeroysphitz]

193. Cops= Psychopaths with badges.

You should not feel safer.

[Shell Beau]

199. Wrong. And way to put down every good cop out there.

Very liberal of you. I love grouping all kinds of people together because of some's bad actions. It is what makes me a democrat.

[leeroysphitz]

206. If the broad brush is the only one they give you, you have to use it.

[proteus_lives]

233. Wow. What other groups do you judge as a whole?

Stereotypes make you a very ugly person.

[leeroysphitz]

248. I'm only judging the group that call themselves public servants while waving a gun in my face.

Also: trying to paint me as some sort of bigot for criticizing U.S. law enforcement organizations is kind of a HOOT don't you think?

[proteus_lives]

269. So around 800,000 LEOs have waved guns in your face?

So you think it's funny to judge entire group of people?

It's a bit silly, isn't?

You do know how you're acting, right?

[leeroysphitz]

352. Lighten up Proteus. Nobody is going around and laughing at COPS.

Trust me nobody is hungry enough to eat the face full of concrete that such behavior would entail from our fine boys in blue.

[leeroysphitz]

353. "Wow. "What other groups do you judge as a whole?" Nazis...

Khmer Rouge, Carthaginians, Laplanders etc...

Would you like me to continue?

[havocmom]

355. That is bigotry. Pure and simple

Does not seem especially democratic.

If SOME white guys, or black guys, or women with pokadots do bad things, would you say all white guys, black guys, pokadot women were psychopaths? If you DID say that, wouldn't it be likely to be called out for BIGOTRY? Because that is PRECISELY what it is.

[asdjrocky]

154. I'm picking not. nt

[arcadian]

81. Military operations against U.S. civilians.

Get used to it.

[Yurovsky]

191. The Patriot Act in action*

nm

[arcadian]

82. Military operations against U.S. civilians.

Get used to it.

[chrisa]

308. This just looks like the LAPD.

The military would be much different.

[Control-Z]

84. How well

do you know your neighbor?

[laughingliberal]

86. You don' t have to answer this question. nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

88. Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut ..

Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut, Hut Hut, Hut, Hut,

[ShortnFiery]

91. I hope Xicano responds soon? eom

[Xicano]

102. Ok, I am not able to get any info from the police.

One officer that did respond with something other than please go back inside said neighbors complained about this guy shooting off a potato gun. Ahhh, yeah right, sorry, but, I don't buy it. Of course I was polite and said thanks officer.

Potato gun story doesn't add up. All that firepower over a potato gun? The helicopter calling out my neighbor's name to come out. My neighbor not coming out. Over a potato gun? Sorry but that doesn't add up.

If I find out anything more I'll update.

[lunatica]

110. The neighbor not coming out is indicative that this isn't about some pellet gun

I may be really naive but those cops look very serious to me.

[ShortnFiery]

126. Thank you.

I'm probably "preaching to the choir," but please stay inside and stay safe within an interior room? That's most important. :thumbsup: :hi:

[Shell Beau]

136. Maybe he was trying to calm your nerves,but you really do need

to stay inside. Do you know your neighbor? This would be so disturbing to me.

[NEOhiodemocrat]

137. If they respond to potato gun with this much force

I sure hope nothing worse ever happens in your neighborhood!

[Kablooie]

273. I guess you've never witnessed the power of the potato. It's awesome.

[Lorien]

298. Helluva overreaction if it IS a potato gun

cops gunned down a friend of mine in front of his kids last year when his ex-wife called in a BS story about him "threatening" her (he'd been making them waffles and eggs for breakfast-there were no "threats"). The overreaction by the SWAT team triggered his Gulf War PTSD and he finally stepped outside -with a gun at his side. He didn't point it at anyone, but they gunned him down anyway. He never trusted cops and wrote "everyone know that I'm not suicidal. Remember that when they kill me" on Facebook right before he stepped out of his home. :-(

[boppers]

207. LOL, Hut hut hut...

[spanone]

92. jeeesh....that last picture...the guy on the bottom left....scary stuff

[proud2BlibKansan]

97. Holy shit!

If this is how they react to someone firing a pellet gun, I'd hate to see what they do for a murder. :scared:

[Parker CA]

99. A pellett gun! Bwwahahahahhahahaa. Yeah. I'm buying that one. Full on assault team. Crazy. nt.

[Beartracks]

112. Maybe they were really big pellets...? n/t

[Maat]

104. Stay safe.

I'm sure that, should you learn anything new, you'll keep us updated.

[leeroysphitz]

108. Pigs. n/t

[Shell Beau]

113. Wow! You really contributed some meaningful stuff here.

Hopefully there isn't some rapist murderer next door. But pigs will be pigs,right? How dare they put their safety first!

[leeroysphitz]

174. Just my 2 cents Shel Beau.

I know too many police officers to actually believe that they are here to or give a shit about protecting and serving. They exist to bring the hammer down when little people get out of line and start to annoy the big people. Any benefit they may seem to provide the community is incidental.

Look at this outrageous show of force over a pellet gun. They didn't NEED to invade this neighborhood bringing dozens of assault weapons around peoples families. They did it because they get a hard on every time they get to dress up and play swat.

The same cop that you think is there to protect you and your family wouldn't hesitate to go to town on you with a billy club if ordered to do so.

[Shell Beau]

188. Not true because that same cop would be my brother.

And I know him. I know why he is a cop. I know what he has gone through while being a cop. I know why he chose to be a cop. People forget that cops are people. Like I told someone else in this thread, ride with a cop for one night. A night where nothing big even happens. You can't imagine the shit cops see. The worst of the worst on a daily basis.

And we have no clue why this bust is going down, nor does the OP. Something else is going on here.


ETA: my brother is no longer a cop. He is now a state trooper which is an even more dangerous job because he rarely has backup.

[leeroysphitz]

196. No offence to you or your brother but all the same I hope I never end up on the business end of

his baton or revolver.

[Shell Beau]

202. He only had to use it once when someone tried to kill him.

What an asshole for trying to defend himself. Oh,and that same guy killed his girlfriend. No biggie. I am sure the girlfriend's parents and kids were so pissed at my brother for using his flashlight like a baseball bat. And yes he did use it like a baseball bat. The guy outweighed my brother by 200 lbs. My brother almost died that night, but one less psychopath on the streets right? Damn pig.

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[leeroysphitz]

245. .

[Forkboy]

249. A cop, my ex brother in law, hired someone to try kill my sister. They were married.

He was "caught" by an undercover State Trooper who then recanted on the stand, letting my brother in-law walk away...and leaving my sister and her son living in fear for years. The same son who he took scissors to, placed them around his penis and threatened to cut it off if he didn't stop crying....at 6 years old.

I HAVE ridden with him and others. I know what cops see (crime scenes, suicide scenes...saw it all by age 16). I've watched them lie on the stand, more than once. I also know what cops have told me, including this one. Things like planting weapons on the "niggers". Things like telling me he'd shoot my friend dead if given the chance. This wasn't an isolated thing. He was a uniform officer and then a detective in a decent sized urban area. He was promoted. He was well liked by the whole force, a "funny" guy, always a joke at the ready. I didn't forget he is "people"....he did. Your brother may be good, but until he stands up to his comrades that aren't I'm not impressed. I've seen that for decades now...good cops intimidated by those that aren't. Either they find the courage to speak up or they deserve the association with the bad ones. It can't be both. If that bothers you or your brother, feel free to have him PM me.

I'm not saying the cops in this story are wrong. But guess again when you say that we can't imagine what cops see. I've seen it, both good and bad. I'm lucky my sister is still alive, not due to the police...in spite of them.

[Shell Beau]

313. That is terrible. I can't imagine what kind of pain your

sister must have gone through. I know there are terrible cops out there. And your sister's situation is one of the worst. But they aren't all that way. My brother did stand up to a bad cop. He arrested one for stealing from crime scenes.

[Liberal_in_LA]

109. Careful. Don't get shot.

[kestrel91316]

That's full-on LAPD SWAT with aerial support. What neighborhood are you in?

[Xicano]

125. I live in the South Shore area of San Pedro, CA.

Normally very quiet.

[Marr]

129. Yeah, definitely don't go talk to them. :D

By the way, if I were a police helicopter pilot, I've always thought it would be fun to have a badge that said, "WHEN PIGS FLY". Not as a reference to something unlikely, but more like a "WHEN ANIMALS ATTACK" sort of thing.

[Xicano]

132. Yeah they're harbor division LAPD

LOL... I love your idea about "When Pigs Fly".. :)

[kestrel91316]

133. It might be on the local news tonight. Check out KCAL9.

[kestrel91316]

134. It might be on the local news tonight. Check out KCAL9.

[Xicano]

184. I submitted the pics to KCAL

Lets see if they air them.

[kestrel91316]

226. Don't suppose they PAID you, lol?

[Marr]

116. Is your neighbor a Decepticon or something?

[Xicano]

139. Sorry I have to post this, but someone questioned whether I was making this up

So for that person. Here's a few photos for you and again, sorry my efforts to get info from the police only resulted in one cop telling me it was because of a potato gun.

[WatchWhatISay]

144. Why is the name whited out on the street sign? How did that second

truck get in the driveway? Wouldn't your neighbors be out in the stree trying to figure out what happened?

[woo me with science]

158. OMG IT'S ALL STAGED!!!!!!!!!!

This is PSY-OPS, I tell you! PSY-OPS!!!!!!!!

[Xicano]

160. Oh for fuck sakes are you kidding me?

Dude, whatever man. I just proved to you that this is where I live and you come up with some idiotic questions about why I whited out the names of the street signs and about someone living at the house coming home and parking in the drive way?

Wow, just wow... The photos I took speak for themselves.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

195. Dude, everything isn't a conspiracy

You sound *really* paranoid. Maybe you should get that looked at.

[EFerrari]

149. That's A LOT of cops for one bumber sticker!

[here_is_to_hope]

181. *snicker*... n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

164. Anyone questioning just does not know LAPD

This is how they roll, as we know....

[kestrel91316]

234. Yep, overkill is LAPD's middle name.

[hisownpetard]

367. No drugs involved? Why, then, I think this crime is small potatoes.

[Cleita]

167. I knew it had to be LAPD. They always go in loaded for bear.

Reminds me of the old days when I lived down there. Once the neighbors called them because a couple of painters in one of the apartments were getting drunk and allowing their dogs to terrorize those neighbor's pets and they wouldn't listen to reason. They were loud and laughing at the person, but I don't think they were dangerous, just drinking too much at lunchtime. We basically just wanted someone to talk some sense to them and get rid of them. They arrived exactly like your pictures, SWAT, helicopters, etc. when all they needed were a couple of squad cars and animal control. Well, I guess they have to be ready for any danger. :rofl:

[asdjrocky]

170. Cops gotta spend that money somewhere. nt

[boppers]

209. LAPD rolls this way for a reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

[proteus_lives]

237. Funny how people forget that it's dangerous to be a LEO.

[kestrel91316]

235. What's weird is, in my area, complaints about loud parties and drunks in yards and

on the street and general hooliganism for HOURS ON END get completely ignored and nobody ever shows up.

Well, except for the one time it resulted in a $2500 fine for the asshats, lol.

[Cleita]

238. This was during the day. Maybe that's what the difference was. I noticed

myself when night settled, there was a lot yelling, music and loud noises with no cops around that I noticed anyway because DH, myself and pets were locked into our cocoon after the sun went down. Although there always seemed to be a lot of helicopters around. Maybe the police?

[kestrel91316]

243. We get LOTS AND LOTS of helicopters in this neighborhood - have for the

20 years I've been here. But patrol cars never show up when people complain. I think they only care about suspected gang activity and shootings. Petty crimes and noise problems get zero attention.

[Crabby Appleton]

192. Cool pics! nt

[Jefferson23]

201. Holy mackerel, hope you and yours are safe!

[Fast Dude]

203. If this is your front yard...

He's putting you in the line of fire. I would go move the Mercedes just to piss them off. :evilgrin:

[EmeraldCityGrl]

211. Thanks for keeping us updated.

Gotta say, stuff like this makes cops look ridiculous. You just know they're getting off hoping for a clean shot at a bad guy.

[WeDidIt]

216. The dog shit on the shoe is the cherry on the top of the pic.

:evilgrin:

[Xicano]

225. Good Doggie.. :)

It was a big pile of poo too. One of those ones where it looks like you dog hadn't gone for a couple of days.

:)

[Xicano]

224. Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

As for the Mercedes I don't know who's car that is. My truck is parked in the garage. But I had to laugh at my dog's poo on his shoe though.


:)

[gleaner]

213. That is impressive ....

It is the SWAT Team. They need the SWAT Team for a pellet gun? No way. The snipers are in body armor. I'd like to see what kind of pellets would pierce that.

I thought it was only my neighbor across the street who got a police response like this. About every 12 to 18 months, there are the police yelling at him through a bull horn and in full swat regalia. My husband and I just hunker down in the bedroom and watch TV until they disarm him which can take hours. He favors shotguns though. The police who keep coming out are a little more open than your guys. Besides, it is hard not to hear a bullhorn.

Keep your head down and stay inside. If they are not gone by 1:00 AM you might as well go to bed because they will be there all night. My life with LAPD SWAT teams.

[pipoman]

250. I'm pretty sure

it is a SCAT team, judging by the uniform adornments in the pic in post 206..

[gleaner]

286. I never heard that acronym ...

what is the difference between the two? My neighbor had the anti gang unit out once too, but they came in unmarked cars and didn't try to talk them out. They just said come out or they were going in. When my neighbor's kids came out they were in leg irons. They had ordered all of us out of our houses by mistake by yelling over the bullhorns, "All of you, come to your front gate with your hands up."


When I shambled out there, all up and down the street the neighbors were standing in front of their houses looking startled. Some of them did have their hands up. When the police saw that, they clarified by giving the address where they wanted the people to come out with their hands up.:rofl: That is when I saw the kids in leg irons. The rest of us they told to go back in and not to come out again. The neighbor across the street yelled, "Can I put my hands down?" I went back in wondering if he was kidding. I hope so. ;)

[pipoman]

289. Well

a SCAT team wears dog shit on their uniform as in post #206...otherwise they are the same...






'How do you know he's a king?'. 'Cause he hasn't got shit all over him!'

[gleaner]

328. OK. You got me. I never even thought of that .....

I was too busy wondering if my neighbor across the street still had his hands up.;) Thanks for clarifying, that is if dog shit is ever clear. I guess it is if you step it in. Unless you're a policeman. I would have tried to scrape it off or something. But he was obviously a man with a mission. You could call it one of those shit assignments that law enforcement hates to get.

[asjr]

215. This entire thread is a giant DUzy!

[graywarrior]

217. Where's John Walsh?

[bertman]

218. Xicano, your neighbor must be one of those Goldman Sachs execs getting arrested for fraud.

I'm so glad they're FINALLY doing something about those guys.

:eyes:

[Bozita]

240. LMFAO! ... As if a white-collar dude ever even saw a SWAT team ... DUzy guaranteed!

[Oregone]

220. You know what sucks more than getting arrested?

Having your neighbor document it on the internet


With the amount of firepower, my prediction is that they have evidence of a single marijuana seedling in his attic.

[Fast Dude]

221. Getting convicted

Money spent on a good lawyer, is money well spent.

[mitchtv]

259. If this was for a potato gun

they need to look at who's getting laid off, wasting money and time.

[Blue_Tires]

222. They've come to arrest Tiger Woods' peener

That thing is dangerous and has a predatory mind of its own...

[Robb]

223. Just in case you read every reply, a suggestion:

Contact your local newspaper, they'd be interested in the shots I expect. You won't get rich, but who doesn't need a few bucks?

[Xicano]

227. I sent copies to KCAL News and the Daily Breeze and LA Times.

I offered them for free if they wish to use them.

[Ikonoklast]

229. Did your neighbor finally give up the donuts?

[krispos42]

242. A shotgun shoots pellets....

Could be the literal truth, perhaps?

[GoneOffShore]

244. The difference between cops and criminals?

Cops have better equipment and uniforms.

:hide:

[Hekate]

251. Holy ever lovin' cow. What was your neighbor growing in that house--a coca plantation?

Brr. Stay safe.

I'm still trying to make my way through this thread to find out if you ever found out. It's creepy what goes on behind closed doors, sometimes.

Hekate

[Xicano]

255. You'll never guess what all that fuss was over.

LOL

[Hekate]

260. Okay, dish: what the heck was that?

[Bozita]

256. Not many things could have drawn that many cops ... possibility of property seizure?

Just when you thought your police dept budget was long gone.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x519498

[Xicano]

257. Doesn't that just burn you up?

I have a copy of a PBS Frontline that look at asset forfeiture laws. It'll piss you off too.

[Bozita]

261. There was the seizure of a Macomb County bowling alley because the owner sold some pot

The guy was in the bowling business for years. House, cars, and bowling alley. Gone.

It was a few years ago, but it seemed to me like an extreme penalty.

It's good to know we don't do that forfeiture kind of shit on the bankster crowd.

[AsahinaKimi]

258. Wow.. what part of LA is that?

Just curious.

[Xicano]

265. San Pedro and its on the

other side of Los Angeles / Long Beach harbor opposite of Long Beach.

[AsahinaKimi]

275. Ooh I think I been there..

I lived a year in Huntington Beach.. We used to drive all over that area!

[ChicagoSuz219]

280. I've been gone for awhile...

...what'd I miss? Did we ever find out what was going on? Is it over yet?

[Historic NY]

262. Lets me guess another guy not paying his taxes because he is angry.

[Romulox]

266. Guy was probably "guilty" of smoking a joint and watching Spongebob. nt

[Renew Deal]

268. He brought a pellet gun to a machine gun fight

What's with the M16's? I doubt this guy was just shooting soda cans.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

272. Local police out in force - trying to justify the budget for thier toys.

I can't imagine many residential situations that would EVER justify that shit.
Seriously, was there like automatic gunfire or grenade explosions?
Something to garner such a police response MUST have drawn your attention before this, right?

[upi402]

276. Someone probably tried to withdraw their money from CitiBank

and didn't exactly wait 7 days!!!

[nikto]

281. It must have been...

A Roman Polanski sighting.


Here in SoCal, that's scary stuff.:P



The police here work overtime to protect us from Roman Polanski,
Smoking dried flowers, and cartoon characters gone bad.

Gangs? Murderers? Rapists? Burglars?

Not so much.

[upi402]

282. Polanski's new film got a B+

from Ben Mankiewicz. Maybe he was at the OP's neighbor with a bootleg?

[laughingliberal]

307. Now that's funny! I don't care who ya are! nt

[Unrepentant Fenian]

283. So...... How did it end??? I've looked, but couldn't find the ending.

[Electric Monk]

284. neighbor in cuffs. nt

[Unrepentant Fenian]

285. Did anyone find out why?

[mwb970]

288. The pictures remind me of scenes from "Numb3rs".

Perhaps you could apply a Barkley-Phipps regression analysis based on the positions of the officers, generating a finite-state, Bayesian algorithm that can determine why they were really there. IF you can input enough data.

[Tim01]

295. So, what was it all about? nt

[Corgigal]

299. Need to find out what happened

I have 5 bucks on domestic turned hostage situation. In this economy it happens more then we like to think. If that is true, please stay in the damn house.

[piratefish08]

300. Maybe they heard there was a child in that house that hadn't yet been tasered?

[Ed76638]

301. Someone must've ratted to the pigs about his weed garden

[hisownpetard]

311. What was it??? The suspense is killing me.

[activa8tr]

317. Me, too. It's not fair

We MUST KNOW now...

[hisownpetard]

319. I hope you're not in a paddy-wagon somewhere...

I hate it when this happens!

[Sultana]

316. Shit son...

:wow:

[Xicano]

321. ((Update)) Believe it or not it was for a Potato Gun.

Here's the who story. A neighbor called the police to complain about the guy who got arrested yesterday for shooting a pellet gun in his back yard. However it wasn't a pellet gun, it was a Potato Gun. All that for that? How ridiculous is that?

I don't know about everyone else, but I kindda rather it would of been for something else more serious because talk about over kill. I mean is a SWAT team going to come out if someone spits on the sidewalk?

:eyes:

[malaise]

324. What a waste of resources

Crazy. America has gone mad

[file83]

326. They call it a Potato "Gun". Technically, it's a Potato "Launcher".

Doesn't sound so nefarious when it's called a launcher, now does it?

For the cops to throw so many resources for such a minor infraction doesn't seem right. 1 squad car with 2 officers should have been sufficient. They were obviously using this incident as an excuse to perform a training operation.

[Cleita]

329. LAPD regularly shows up en masse when there are weapons or drugs

mentioned. I suppose it also serves as training.

[X_Digger]

332. In some states, that's considered a 'destructive device',

which puts it in the same category as grenades and land mines.

[Dappleganger]

333. Ok, that is effed up!

What kind of dumbasses are these people who waste precious resources while the REAL BG's get away??

BTW, we have potato guns and shoot them regularly at the wild pigs in the preserve behind us...lotsa fun. :)

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

341. Cops can't be too careful. He might have had a Salad Shooter!

And with the whole arsenal, he'd have a Potato Salad Shooter!

Nothing to see here. Move along.

:hi:

[ThoughtCriminal]

345. Well, there are potato launchers and then there are...

BFPCs!

[pipoman]

358. Potato gun...humph

Hedge Apple chucker...

[Mendocino]

374. In these parts we call those

Osage Oranges. They aren't edible but sometimes squirrels will tear them up and make a real mess.

[pipoman]

380. In the central and south central plains

the osage orange became known for the impenetrable hedge rows they make. Now they are better known around here as hedge than osage orange. I am in the 10-15 year process of growing a traditional hedge. They are planted 3' apart, every spring we weave the previous years growth with the neighboring tree. It makes a thorny, unbelievably tough barrier that a dog can't even get through.

[devilgrrl]

376. I have a friend who makes potato guns like that!

:-)

[Danascot]

346. Get back ... I've got a potato gun!

... and I'm not afraid to use it.

[Odin2005]

351. Welcome to Fascist America.

[defendandprotect]

361. Cops have been playing the "overkill" game for decades . . .

give them toys and power and they use it -- overkill!!

And, along with it, frightening communities -

[Gormy Cuss]

365. The "overkill" game, as you put it, is intended to protect their lives.

That's the main reason cops don't show up for a friendly chat when there's a report of shooting. The justification when it's a report of drugs is the presumption that where there's drugs there are weapons. The large number of cops required for this strategy means either more cops must be on duty each shift or other law enforcement goes by the wayside. It also seems to create a siege mentality in some departments, like the LAPD, and as you wrote, it frightens communities in the process.

[defendandprotect]

366. No, it's not -- and neither is wildly speeding in police cars to catch a suspect ...

intended to protect their lives or anyone else's --

I suppose you also think shackling a woman to a bed when she is in labor

in prison is also to "protect their lives."

[Gormy Cuss]

368. I wrote nothing about freeway chases or shackling women in labor.

On the specific point of why so many officers are sent in response to a call involving weapons, or in the case of drug busts the presumption of presence of weapons, the strategy was developed to minimize the injury and death to cops. As I wrote before, it's created a bit of a siege mentality and that in turn creates more fear OF cops in communities.

[defendandprotect]

369. True, you have a narrow outlook -- I enlarged it --

On the specific point of why so many officers are sent in response to a call involving weapons, or in the case of drug busts the presumption of presence of weapons, the strategy was developed to minimize the injury and death to cops. As I wrote before, it's created a bit of a siege mentality and that in turn creates more fear OF cops in communities.


That's hilarious --

We have citizens arming themselves because they fear their neighbors who have guns.

We have police officers armed because criminals are armed.

And, we have goverment working overtime to arm the public with guns/weapons!

And now you say we have to send more heavily armed swat teams because . . .

of the possibility of weapons!!



:rofl:


GOP's/NRA -- "Wild West America!"

Profit from guns and violence --

[Gormy Cuss]

371. Good grief.

I never wrote that IT HAD TO BE DONE THIS WAY. Each time I was explaining how it evolved to be the default response by LE.
:rofl:

[defendandprotect]

372. Good grief . . .

this isn't about YOU . . .

it's about inane programs --

like building up weapons/guns -- either locally or internationally --

and then telling citizens we're all safer -- !!!

Patriarchy and capitalism are suicidal --

[Gormy Cuss]

375. Sorry, when you make assertions about me/my beliefs, it is about me.

The sad truth of it is based on what you've written in this thread our views on these issues aren't that different.

[defendandprotect]

377. That was about your debate from a narrow perspective . . .

not about you personally --

So stop the game playing --

respond to the debate --

We agree on world peace, huh?

Now what to do about all those weapons out there -- !!??

Beginning with Nukes and including all the guns in our national parks today?

[Gormy Cuss]

383. ...

[cherokeeprogressive]

391. "And, we have the government working overtime to arm the public with guns/weapons!"

Nnnnnope. No hyperbole here...

Do you seriously believe in your heart of hearts that the US government has someone, ANYONE, working more than their proscribed hours in an effort to ensure every American citizen has a gun, and if not a gun, SOME kind of weapon?

THAT'S fuckin' funny.

You are one of the most entertaining DU'ers I've read in the five years I've been here.

:eyes: :crazy: :silly: :dunce: :rofl:

[merh]

373. Are potato guns illegal?

:shrug:

[X_Digger]

378. In some states, yes.

Technically it's using a chemical propellant in a controlled explosion to move a large projectile at considerable velocity.

(Still hella lot of fun!)

[merh]

379. Damn - I never realized that.

And who would have thought that SWAT shows up to help confiscate them.

thanks for the info :hi:

Wiki says: Combustion spud guns are not to be manufactured or possessed by those under the age of 16 in the state of California.

[kestrel91316]

384. I thought they were toys. UNSAFE toys, like lawn darts, but toys nonetheless.

[Canuckistanian]

388. Outlaw potato guns and....

Only outlaws will have potato guns.

I'm sure the NRAPGA (National Rifle and Potato Gun Association) will have a few things to say about this.

[TroglodyteScholar]

382. Jesus, this should be a scandal.

How much taxpayer money do you suppose was spent on this effort?

[Odin2005]

322. Fucking pigs.

[Yavin4]

330. First, They Came for the Potato Launcher, and I Mocked Them on DU

Then they came for me...

BTW, what does one do with a potato launcher? Is this some new kinky sex act?

[KittyWampus]

331. I just looked them up- they are usually handmade cannons or launchers. For potatoes

which could probably do some damage but ---- I'm thinking along the lines of breaking somebody's window.

[Dappleganger]

334. Take them out into the deep woods...

have a lotta fun! It's something you can do with younger kids (with supervision, obviously). When my husband was younger they would shoot potato cannons at each other's sailboats after they finished racing. BTW, most of the potatoes end up coming apart in mid-air and hit their target in pieces.

[Yavin4]

335. For Everyone Here Making Fun, This Is Who The Cops Were After

Not so funny now, huh?

[Xicano]

336. ^^^^ LMAO

"Hey WTF is going on around here?"





That's a good one Yavin4. LOL

:spray:

[Dappleganger]

338. I'll bet he has no permit...

send him to the Gungeon!

[Shell Beau]

350. No it isn't.

1) I don't buy it.

[Broken_Hero]

359. .....

:rofl:

[taterguy]

370. Dude, how many times do I have to ask you not to post my pic without asking first

[merh]

385. .

:rofl:

[ecstatic]

342. Be glad they didn't see you

As a "too nosy" observer, you would have gotten the beat down!

[Cali_Democrat]

357. Typical LAPD overreaction

absurd

[Sancho]

381. foreclosure just isn't the same as it used to be!

:rofl:

[nikto]

386. Deadly!!

[invictus]

387. So what happened? Who was he? What did he do?

[Canuckistanian]

390. May this thread never die

I hereby pronounce this thread unkillable.

[yurbud]

392. that happened to me when I got my third parking ticket...

[bertman]

393. The only potato gun I ever saw looked more like a bazooka than a gun. That bad boy

could chuck a half-pound Idaho about 100 yards with pretty good accuracy. If I remember correctly it was operated by a charge of hair spray. No shit.

Seems to me if they really had a complaint about a guy holed up in a house with a potato gun they should have sent over a team with a flame thrower so they could make some home fries.

They probably didn't do that because they were afraid one of the Scat Team might go off half-baked.

B-)

[seeinfweggos]

394. flame thrower

sour cream, cheese, chives, etc.

[bertman]

395. looked like that one cop brought the con queso on his shoe.

[seeinfweggos]

396. i saw that - from the op's dog too, lol

this was really one of my favorite threads ever, including the part where the op wasn't believed and displayed his donor bumper sticker to prove it.