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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:39 PM Original message |
I'm So Tired Of This Shit... Calling All Law Experts/Buffs... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not a criminal lawyer |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I Thought Mirandizing Someone Let Them Know They Were Being Placed Under Arrest |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Don't think so |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. You need to Mirandize before questioning following detention. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. That is the source of your confusion |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It's Not The Only Source, LOL !!! |
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rgbecker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. As it turns out the constitution works for everybody, not just citizens. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. yes... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. But Isn't That The Rub ??? |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. well.. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. LOL... Thank You !!! |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So if I get what you are saying |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No... I'm Trying To Counter The Phony RW Ploy Of Being Horrified That This Guy Was Mirandized... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kidnapping is only if you wrongly hold someone against their will |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. But How Do You Hold Them (Against Their Will) Without Arresting Them ??? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. If you hold someone for the police to interview in a situation where a reasonable person would feel |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Not at all. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's a two edged sword. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. No one is required to be Mirandized to be legally arrested. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. OK... Got That... But To My Original Quandry... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The authority to "hand him over" is a bit hazy |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yes. You can be arrested without Mirandizing. |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Well all that is gray area now because of BushCo. |
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D-Lee (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Airline captain, ship captain, really are captains of their ships |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. FAR 91.3a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Civilian Arrest is still a Valid arrest |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. OK... So How Do We Fulfill The RWers Wet Dream Of Putting This Guy Into A Military Tribunal ??? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. He ends up in miltary custody by whatever mechanism gets him there (w/ or w/o Miranda) |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Once a person is arrested he MUST be taken to a Judge |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Thank You For That... Very Informative !!! |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. sure they can, |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Federal Law on the subject of Miranda is older then Miranda |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I'm sorry |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-16-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. My Comments was more directed at other comments on Miranda |
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