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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:35 AM
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Must see rebuttal to big snow = no global warming
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 11:43 AM by prolesunited
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:38 AM
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1. Will be sharing...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:46 AM
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2. It sort of shows the lack of schooling
this country has. I have reported this before. Back in the 40's and 50's when I went to school, we were taught the effects of the earth warming.

Most of the stuff happening today and that was almost 70 years ago, when we were taught about these things, is happening right today. Ice caps melting, oceans rising. EXTREME PATTERN WEATHER CHANGES. More frequent and horrendous snow and thunderstorms etc. I don't understand what schools these zip heads went to. Most have college degrees and they were even taught the basics. No wonder this country is in a mess with the dumb stupid brains republicans show.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:58 AM
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5. Well, some of them want to teach creationism
as equally valid to evolution. Idiocracy, here we come.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:46 AM
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3. Best explanation I've yet seen
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:58 AM
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4. Pictures {cartoons} are worth thousands of words
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:03 PM
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6. The cartoon is cute
But it simply mocks people for their beliefs without offering a solid explanation. Putting people on the defensive just makes the dig in their heels.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:28 PM
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7. The reason I use the term global climate change is to circumvent
the all too prevalent stupidity of the average human. And one should never underestimate the extreme stupidity of that all too common creature, Americanus Vulgaris.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:38 PM
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8. Add this as well for further ammunition
From Dr. Jeff Masters' blog at Weather Underground:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1427

The U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) began as a presidential initiative in 1989 and was mandated by Congress in the Global Change Research Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-606), which called for "a comprehensive and integrated United States research program which will assist the Nation and the world to understand, assess, predict, and respond to human-induced and natural processes of global change." This program has put out some excellent peer-reviewed science on climate change that, in my view, is as authoritative as the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports. In 2009, the USGCRP put out its excellent U.S. Climate Impacts Report, summarizing the observed and forecast impacts of climate change on the U.S. The report's main conclusion about cold season storms was "Cold-season storm tracks are shifting northward and the strongest storms are likely to become stronger and more frequent".

The report's more detailed analysis: "Large-scale storm systems are the dominant weather phenomenon during the cold season in the United States. Although the analysis of these storms is complicated by a relatively short length of most observational records and by the highly variable nature of strong storms, some clear patterns have emerged (Kunkel et al., 2008).

Storm tracks have shifted northward over the last 50 years as evidenced by a decrease in the frequency of storms in mid-latitude areas of the Northern Hemisphere, while high-latitude activity has increased. There is also evidence of an increase in the intensity of storms in both the mid- and high-latitude areas of the Northern Hemisphere, with greater confidence in the increases occurring in high latitudes (Kunkel et al., 2008). The northward shift is projected to continue, and strong cold season storms are likely to become stronger and more frequent, with greater wind speeds and more extreme wave heights". The study also noted that we should expect an increase in lake-effect snowstorms over the next few decades. Lake-effect snow is produced by the strong flow of cold air across large areas of relatively warmer ice-free water. The report says, "As the climate has warmed, ice coverage on the Great Lakes has fallen. The maximum seasonal coverage of Great Lakes ice decreased at a rate of 8.4 percent per decade from 1973 through 2008, amounting to a roughly 30 percent decrease in ice coverage. This has created conditions conducive to greater evaporation of moisture and thus heavier snowstorms. Among recent extreme lake-effect snow events was a February 2007 10-day storm total of over 10 feet of snow in western New York state. Climate models suggest that lake-effect snowfalls are likely to increase over the next few decades. In the longer term, lake-effect snows are likely to decrease as temperatures continue to rise, with the precipitation then falling as rain".

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:47 PM
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9. Kudos to Ratigan.
:thumbsup:

Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, prolesunited.
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