The Enquirer was right about everything else

[CatWoman]

I don't know this guy anymore.

:wtf: happened to him?

I can't believe that I once supported him.

Cancer-stricken Elizabeth Edwards is telling pals that John beat her during a horrific marriage-ending fight, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.

"John lost his temper big-time," revealed a close friend of Elizabeth.

"She has the divorce papers drawn up, but she can amend them to charge John with domestic violence.

"She's holding that over his head right now - and he's scared. Elizabeth is in control."

I understand that the sources for this story passed a lie detector test.


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_beat_wife_elizabeth_bones_broken_cops_called/celebrity/68090

[Peregrine Took]

1. I'm officially un-shockable when it comes to Edwards. n/t

[Ignis]

26. I thought I was, too, but this story proved me wrong.

Wow. Just wow.

[LaydeeBug]

2. wow!. The end of an ego... it's too bad because his message was on point, and now

it has no credibility. That's the biggest tragedy of all.

[Renew Deal]

4. .

[Renew Deal]

5. Which message?

His 2002 message? Or his 2003 message? Or his 2004 message? Or was it his 2008 message?

[karynnj]

32. The people he hired to write the various proposals for 2008

are the people who will hopefully be part of some progressive think tanks. Edwards was always simply the figure head for them. Consider that he was a man who didn't even vote regularly and had forgotten if his first vote was for Nixon or McGovern. (That was my first vote too, I remember clearly who I canvassed and voted for and even remember watching the returns with other in my town.) He had no great policy expertise. The Senate was his first elected office - before that he was a trial lawyer.

I hope the Enquirer is wrong on this - but given how delusional he was in thinking he could cover everything up, he might have seen Elizabeth divorcing him as the final kiss of death. This does make me wonder if there is some psychological problem to cause the change from what at worst seemed to be a phony, egotistical man, who thought he could talk his way into anything, but who did have a 30 year marriage into this monster.

[karynnj]

37. One (Non Edwards) effect of this - it will likely lead to more obtrusive

coverage of all politicians justified by saying that we need to know - as in "just look at John Edwards"

[Ghost in the Machine]

61. The first time someone says that, they should be answered with "why not look at David Vitter..

... or Larry Craig"...... or one of the many names on http://www.republicansexoffenders.com

:hi:

[karynnj]

62. You misunderstood

I wasn't speaking Democrat or Republican. I was saying it gives more justification to the already glaring spotlight Presidential candidates are put under. It is hard to think what it must be like to be on film more than 12 hours an day, every day for months. Especially if the media is willing to take comments or actions out of context.

[KittyWampus]

68. I'd wonder about substance abuse, but with all the ugly coming out already it seems

unlikely that would escape discovery.

[LaydeeBug]

44. The timeless FACT that there are one set of rules for the rich, and another for "the rest"

It was true in 2002. It was also true, in 2003 and 2004, although I have to add that I didn't really see a big "message change" for him in those years. Please cite. It is also true today, and will be true tomorrow too.

[karynnj]

63. Easy

2004, one of the least ambitious healthcare plans and attacks on the more ambitious Dean and Kerry plans.
2006, a plan that was closer to the Kerry plan than his own, but which went even further with a mandate that Kerry's 2004 plan did not have.

2004, a mediocre environmental record and not much of a global warming/alternative energy plan
2008, a much stronger environmental plan - though not as well thought out as the 2004 Kerry plan

2004, other than Lieberman, the strongest supporter (more than Gephardt) of the Iraq war. Even 6 months after the invasion he was a cheerleader.

2001, voted for an atrocious bankruptcy bill that hurt the poor.
2008, "the only one speaking for the poor"

[vadawg]

seems the both of them are peas of a pod, both need to have the attention

what a disaster this guy would have been as potus and i can just imagine her as flotus..

[Missy Vixen]

41. Stop blaming the victim

Then again, I'm sure you think it's justified to take off after a cancer patient who had NO good options at that point...

:eyes:

[FedUpWithIt All]

53. Sources are also saying that she had previously assulted him.

Another source revealed: "Elizabeth has slapped John in the past during fights over his extramarital affair with Rielle.

It would seem that BOTH of them need to be out of the spotlight where they can get much needed help.

[Missy Vixen]

57. I'm wondering how many here had to deal with a philandering spouse

in the midst of a firestorm of media.

I can't wait to hear how you handled it.

I'll bet one of those sources has the initials RH, and the other one has the initials AY.

:eyes:

[FedUpWithIt All]

64. One source testimony is accepted, no questions asked...

but other sources are dismissed?

A victim of physical abuse is a VICTIM of physical abuse and in this case, seeing as we are really only privy to the info in the media, it would appear both parties have been victimized. You, yourself, reprimanded another for "blaming the victim". Perhaps you might take your own advice. There has been enough documentation to imply that neither Edwards is a saint.

If the Edwards spouses do not like the media firestorm surrounding them perhaps they should stop seeking and tending it so consistently.

[vadawg]

65. yeah shes so the victim in this, im sorry but she was as involved in the cover up as anyone

im also pretty sure ive seen her on TV touting her side numerous times knowing that she wasnt telling the whole truth... as i said she has just as big an ego and wanted just as much as him to be the flotus..

[Missy Vixen]

71. Wow, it must make you feel tough to beat up on a woman who had no other realistic choices

I don't think you'd have the courage to make your above statements to her face, either.

Did you know that Elizabeth Edwards is a former member of DU?

[Renew Deal]

3. John Edwards is a never ending disaster

Nothing should surprise anyone about him.

[tonysam]

40. No, JRE is a never-ending obsession with people who consumed

with hatred.

[DevonRex]

6. The NE has apparently always had solid sources for its Edwards stories.

I'm more inclined to believe them on Edwards than I am on anything else.

[grantcart]

11. And they are not going to blow their most credible story ever with something

that they aren't 100% sure on.

Doesn't mean that its true just that they believe it to be true.

[DevonRex]

13. GMTA. This Edwards mess has boosted its credibility more than anything

they've ever done before. No way do they mess that up knowingly. As you say, still might not be true, but the NE obviously believes it to be true and has done as much fact checking as it can.

[dysfunctional press]

20. they were pretty credible when it came to o.j. as well.

this isn't the first time that they've been right about something big.

[lumberjack_jeff]

24. Of course they have. Edwards has a habit of surrounding himself with weaselly scumbags. nt

[DevonRex]

25. Ugh. Like the guy who wrote the sleazy book about him.

I'm assuming Elizabeth's friends are nicer than John's associates and are spilling the beans for a different reason.

[Cleita]

7. Me too CW.

Although there were those who tried to tell us he was a big phony. I think we liked his message about health care for all and ending poverty. Apparently, he wasn't Mr. Right after all. What a pity.

Off topic, but as to lie detector tests, they aren't that reliable. I passed one that I deliberately lied on because I was so resentful of being asked to take it but I had to. It was for a job and I could have lost my unemployment if I had refused to. I got the job and the employer was never the wiser. I quit four months later when I got a better job.

[CatWoman]

28. story of my life, Cleita

:cry:

I ALWAYS pick the wrong one

:cry:

Poor, poor Elizabeth.......

[Manifestor_of_Light]

58. Polygraph tests are NOT admissible in court.

And yes I AM a lawyer but I don't play one on TV. :D

They don't actually prove anything.

[Cleita]

59. Well I agree. But there are employers out there who won't even

give you an interview if you don't take one. They tell you that you don't have to but your application goes into the circular file if you don't.

[David Zephyr]

8. I hope Elizabeth soaks him for every penny and then some.

!

[piratefish08]

9. The Enquirer is more honest and trustworthy than the MSM.

[biscotti]

10. I wonder how his parents

are dealing with the situation. He used them all the time on the trail.

[Kadie]

12. This story just keeps getting worse.

:(

[stray cat]

14. The baby is an alien?

[CatWoman]

29. and Bat Boy is set to adopt

:P

[hlthe2b]

15. I don't know, but I have certainly observed that in nasty divorces...

former friends tend to be divvied up between the spouses and are also convenient conduits of both information and misinformation designed to gain the upper hand for one party or the other. Just sayin..... Even the seemingly "sanest" of people can lose it when the hurt, betrayal and pain of divorce proceedings take over.

[stray cat]

16. If the cops have a record of a call to the house that would be interesting

otherwise its just he said she said

[Kadie]

18. This came out last week.

Could be related?

John Edwards: 'Suspect'
Submitted by bniolet on 2010-01-29 14:54


The Orange County sheriff's office released today a copy of a report alleging a "domestic between spouses and larceny of wallet" on Oct. 10, 2008, at the home of John and Elizabeth Edwards.

In the report, Elizabeth Edwards describes how John Edwards came to the home to eat dinner with his children after a sports event, Mark Johnson reports. She told him they were dining with the babysitter, and he had no business being there, according to the report.

Moments later, John Edwards challenged his wife’s comment and said the house was his, as well. Then Elizabeth Edwards said she saw her husband take her lime green wallet, which contained $320, credit cards and a Motorola Razr phone. John Edwards went down to "the barn," an adjoining structure that includes a full-size basketball court, for several minutes before beginning to leave, according to the report.

"As Mr. Edwards was leaving, he was asked to give the wallet back,” the report said, “and he advised that he did not have it."

The report ends by giving Edwards – a former U.S. Senator, former presidential candidate and former Democratic vice presidential nominee – a new title: "suspect."

UPDATE FOR THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS: The report had been kept secret since it was filed more than a year ago at the request of Elizabeth Edwards, the sheriff said. He cited a state statute that allows incident reports to be kept confidential temporarily in cases where the documents’ release could endanger the victims physical or mental well-being.

http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/john_edwards_suspect_0

[jillan]

17. John Edwards is a SLIME ball.

I know we are suppose to be trying to get along on DU now, but I never understood what people saw in him during the primaries.
I just didn't trust this man. Yes he did have great ideas - loved the 2 Americas line, but just something about him made me question his motives. I can't put my finger on what it was, but I just sensed that he was disingenuous.

[glitch]

22. Here's the thing: when a politician espouses the rhetoric you want to hear you might go for him

even if you think he's probably lying, the (futile) hope is he'll have to at least attempt to run true to his rhetoric, which is a small step up from the alternative.

Edwards ran as a phony charismatic populist, just like that guy in MA. And who knows, if he hadn't imploded he might've made it too.

[ParkieDem]

23. I did too.

I have always been suspect of high-profile trial lawyers like Edwards. The likes of him are seriously harming the legal profession.

Lawyers like Edwards take their "one big case" and try to parlay that into a never-ending gold mine. They start looking out for their own interests instead of those of their clients. They get so full of themselves, they forget who their clients are and what the consequences of lawsuits can be; they're too busy hanging out on their yachts and taking the private jet for a week in Aspen.

There are real, honest, hardworking plaintiff's lawyers out there who have always remained down to earth. They make a good living, but don't exploit their clients the way Edwards and his ilk do. They play hardball, but don't cross the boundaries of ethics. Unfortunately, these people get drowned out by the loudmouths.

Thank God this man is not our president.

[lumberjack_jeff]

27. I supported him because of his policy priorities.

Like Elizabeth, but unlike the average DU'er, I wasn't omniscient enough to "just know" that he was a scumbag.

[DonkeyHoTay]

47. Slime ball? OR Lime ball? Stolen wallet was lime green!

Why would the guy take her wallet?

[joeybee12]

19. You know, even after everything, this shocks me...

...then again, we shouldn't be surprised that we really don't know people in the public eye since everything is for show.

[cali]

21. I told you so.

and boy did I get hammered for it. I said look at his record and what a cheerleader he was for war. I said look at his votes in the Senate. I said his house reflected arrogance and ego and a horrible double standard. I pointed out his "work" for Fortress and his behavior toward Dean in 2004. He was an obvious slimeball.

(and yeah, it feels good to say I told you so.)

[CatWoman]

30. LOL

Score one for Cali..............

:)

[karynnj]

33. You did say it - with all that supporting it in many strong posts

I always agreed with your list, except for his interactions with Dean - maybe because there were things I did not see. (I 2003, I simply wanted the nominee to be either Dean or Kerry, but I missed anything that was not just politics as usual.)

The "Southern thing" approached it when he intentionally misunderstood Dean's comment on voters in cars with Confederate flags. He did attack Dean's (and Kerry's) healthcare plan, but his 2004 plan WAS far more conservative.

[KoKo]

70. I and a few other NC'linians here knew he was fake as a Senator...But, I feel bad that he's come to

this.

Those of us who worked for him as Senator against that RW Big-Agra Pig Farmer, Faircloth, had high hopes for Edwards. But, once he became Senator he started running for President. He left hundreds of protestors hoping to stop the Iraq Invasion out in the cold, refusing to meet with us, as he walked into a $1,000 a plate fundraiser in downtown Raleigh. We stood out there for hours just hoping he would adress our concerns and when the fundraiser was over he escaped through the back door without saying a word to us. I knew then what he was about...and posted over and over on DU and had folks very angry. But, I think he's far worse than even some of us thought and I feel bad for all of us who supported him for Senator and all the people over the country who gave what little they could to support him twice because they believed in his message of Two Americas...which turned out to be true.

The Dem Part Poobah's should have never let him get that far. He's hurt the party and so many people in the party with his unbelievably selfish acting out. If we knew early on he was a fake then the higher ups for sure knew something was going on far worse with him than not caring about his constituents.

It's very sad to see this.

[guruoo]

31. Did Elizabeth take the lie detector, or was that given to just her "pals"

to verify their hearsay?

'Elizabeth Edwards is telling pals...'

[Fumesucker]

38. That was my thought too.. n/t

[davepc]

34. Imagine if he had won the nomination and all this stuff then came out?

He didn't care that he would be putting himself in position to cause grave damage to the party and get more Republicans elected.

[Orsino]

35. I can't believe this...

...until Edwards issues his denial.

[LibertyLover]

36. I read, and I believe it was on DU last week,

that the Enquirer's editor is putting their stories on Edwards up for a Pulitzer. His contention is that they investigated the story, broke it and followed up on it when other media outlets were not touching it.

[marshall]

69. The Enquirer started getting "street cred" with the JonBenet stuff

Maybe one day they will reach the level of a Fox News insofar as being a news organization is concerned...

[tonysam]

39. Edwards thread number twenty to hide.

Time to stop the bashing. Enough already.

[CatWoman]

43. So

you were for hiding it before you were against it?

Or vice versa?

This scumbag NEEDS to be bashed!!

over


and


over


and


over again!!!!

What if he had won the primary, only for all of this stuff to come out?

And he had the NERVE to hit his cancer-stricken wife?

SPARE ME!!!

[BlueIris]

49. Some perspective: the bashing is being done based on a *tabloid* "news" story.

As someone who has studied the history of supermarket tabloids, I can tell you that they are used for one thing, and have been since the intelligence agencies invented them back in the day: to push propaganda.

I can't believe DUers are posting about a NE story as if it is fact. Shameful.

[CatWoman]

52. you need to acquaint yourself with (1) facts, and (2) history

the Enquirer broke this story, and has not been proven wrong in any aspect of it.

[niceypoo]

72. Hmmmmm....

I dont have much faith in tabloids

[IndianaGreen]

45. So why did you post here?

Is that you, John?

[goldcanyonaz]

55. I don't think there have been enough threads about what a scumbag he is.

He's a fucking POS!

[SKKY]

42. Just based on the fact that I donated actual money to this guy's campaign...

...I should have my ass kicked a few times.

[IndianaGreen]

46. He sure fooled a lot of people!

So much talent, so much waste!

[Blue-Jay]

48. You didn't "know" him to begin with.

You just thought you did. (As did we all)

[CatWoman]

51. every time I see that damn squirrel

I crack up!! :hi:

so very true - we never did "know" him.....

[Blue-Jay]

54. I only keep the squirrel because I know that you love him.

I live to serve.

Back on topic - I still regret voting for Sexy Sexy Edwards in the 2004 primary.

[EFerrari]

50. Did she also pass the test? It's pretty rare that someone as manipulative

as JE doesn't marry right in his own area of expertise.

It's time for both of them to stop "leaking" and to start cleaning up their mess.

[undeterred]

56. Oh I thought this was going to be about Oprah.

Something about a gay scandal involving her and Stedman.. saw it standing in line at the grocery store.

[Raine]

60. Just when you think it can't get any worse

it does. x(

[MilesColtrane]

66. He's out-Gingriched, Gingrich.

What's next for this guy?

Is he going to start starring in S&M porn flicks?

"Long" John Edwards in "Four Trials, Three Nuns, Two Nipple Clamps, and a Doberman"

[deutsey]

67. I always liked his message, but had lots of reservations about him

However, I had no idea how slimy he really is.

It's just too bad that someone like him espoused the values/issues that real working people desperately need represented in Congress and the White House.

[HillGal]

73. He's such a sleaze and he always struck me as a sleaze, I never fell for his fakeness. NT

NT

[deaniac21]

74. I think you mean you didn't know him before but now you do.