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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:29 PM
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So Frank Luntz is now framing the talking points to kill Financial Reform....
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 07:39 PM by DainBramaged
If there is one guy in life I hate, it's this alien scumbag.......


Frank Luntz Pens Memo To Kill Financial Regulatory Reform


Nine months after he penned a memo laying out the arguments for health care legislation's destruction, Republican message guru Frank Luntz has put together a playbook to help derail financial regulatory reform.

In a 17-page memo titled, "The Language of Financial Reform," Luntz urged opponents of reform to frame the final product as filled with bank bailouts, lobbyist loopholes, and additional layers of complicated government bureaucracy.

"If there is one thing we can all agree on, it's that the bad decisions and harmful policies by Washington bureaucrats that in many ways led to the economic crash must never be repeated," Luntz wrote. "This is your critical advantage. Washington's incompetence is the common ground on which you can build support."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html


(on edit: I find it interesting people would unrec this thread. Shows you the infiltration of the DU)
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:32 PM
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1. So let George Lakoff and Drew Westin pen our response
Fight fire with fire and shut them down immediately. But then again, it really isn't a fair fight because Lakoff insists on using the truth to frame a message as opposed to Luntz's Orwellian language.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:00 PM
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11. Democrats fom the administration on down are unwilling or incapable of doing that
Ironic, isn't it?

The party of science doesn't use the principles of science- yet stubbornly clings to romantic, outdated notions of enlightenment reasoning as the basis for political persuasion, action and dynamics.

The party of fundamentalists declares war on science, yet seamlessly adopts and wields its principles using associations, thought patterns, framings and metaphors to successfully wage policy fights and win elections.

Even when their policies are unpopular- and facts supporting them are wanting.



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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:33 PM
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2. the difference between shit & Luntz....
Nothing,Nada,Zip,Zilch.....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:34 PM
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3. So Lutz is saying that the Republicans should run against their own record?
Su-per Gen-ius.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:40 PM
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7. They're going to tie it to the recent Dem Congresses
Mark my words. Because earlier today Chris Matthews interviewed a Repuke Congressman about the budget. And that Rep. said that the debt increased wildly during the 2 recent Congresses that had Dem majorities.

And Matthews was caught flat footed.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:34 PM
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4. ... harmful policies by Washington bureaucrats that in many ways led to the economic crash"
That's what I love about Republicans. They are so fixated on the idea that government doesn't work that they use their own failures as evidence. It was Republican policies that led to the economic crash. It was their "let the bull run" bullshit. But, somehow their bad governmental policies become evidence for their own arguments.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:35 PM
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5. They can't think up their own response so they hire this pudgy little fucker?
My answer to any objections brought up by Boner or any of the rest of them would be "Is that what Frank Luntz told you to say?".
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:38 PM
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6. Other than KO and Rachel, NOBODY in the MSM has the guts to say that
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:43 PM
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9. Actually, Obama said that to Lutz's face the other day
Albeit with less "flavor".

I'm not always on the president's side. In fact, not very often these days. But when he fired his salvos at "Luntz" I took it as a shot across the bow at that piece of crap. I just have my doubts that the American people at large will digest what's going on.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:46 PM
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10. Luntz is the reason the ignorant Pukes win the propaganda war
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 07:40 PM
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8. What history will say about Luntz
History will say that Luntz Right Wing Propaganda, in the long run, did more damage to the Human Race than even the great Joessef Goebbels.

If you consider Luntz to be the Father of the "Propaganda turned to common wisdom" that global warming is a does not exist.

-90% Jimmy

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:08 PM
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12. History will say that he was a winner- and that his opponents chose to be losers
even though so much was at stake.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:12 PM
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13. This little fucking weasel is one of the reasons why I hate these fuckers
so much.
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