Is "The Moyers Effect" a possibility?

[youthere]

After his expose "Buying the War" that showed the complicity of the media in the leadup to the Iraq war, do you think it's likely or possible that the MSM, in an effort to "redeem" itself, will come out guns a'blazing against the whitehouse now?

[spanone]

1. NO, it's the same media.

[verse18]

5. The same media that didn't report the Articles of Impeachment for an American VP.

I doubt the will be making any changes soon.

[damntexdem]

16. With the same owners.

[spanone]

18. same reporters...same bias....same bullshit.

[malaise]

25. True but more people know that

they're all fugging hacks. They won't get away with their bullshit again.

[Phredicles]

2. Naw, they'll be trying all the harder to prove Moyers did NOT affect them,

by being even more Pravda-like than before.:eyes::puke:

[lyonn]

15. Moyer doesn't sign their pay checks. eom

[rudy23]

3. No, they're just going to smear Bill Moyers. nt

[BuyingThyme]

4. Hey, do you suppose we can get those Nazis over at Scholastic to promote this

as they did with the Path to 9/11?

[Mandate My Ass]

6. 0% chance, IMHO

They'll continue to say they get criticized by the left and the right so they must be doing it correctly. :eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Yeah, right.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. No and rather told you why too

they have too many interests before the FCC

The only way to solve teh problem is two fold

1.- Fairnerss Docrine

2.- Application of antitrust laws and the break up of media into itty bitty little entities.

Until that happens, forget it, they are bought and paid for by the five Corporations that own them

[bdamomma]

9. Moyers hit a nerve, at the end of documentary you

notice how people like Kristol, and others turned down to comment on the issue. There is your answer right there. But the media will sweep this under the scandal rug to save their sorry asses. But we were/or have been on to the media for a long time.

[annabanana]

19. Kristol, this morning on Washington Journal. . .. was hysterical.

(And I don't mean "funny") He was getting brutalized by the callers who had seen Moyer's piece last night. He lost it and actually challenged Moyers to a debate. (I expect he'll forget that if it's brought up to him).

Even after the following guest left the studio, callers were still on the line to give him hell.. ("This is for that guy who was on before the guy who just left....")

He was reamed six ways from Sunday. It was a sight to behold.

[orwell]

10. What is clear from the Moyers piece...

...is that the Corporate Media is terrified of "getting too far out in front" of a story. This relegates them the permanent position of follower. They will turn on the Bushies after everyone else does. The public is finally turning now - over a decade after the fact - the corporations will follow, and the chattering class will bring up the rear, the full while telling you that they led instead of followed the great slumbering mass, handing out Pulitzers along the way for emphasis.

The situation is so dire because the American people in great part have become a fat lazy self indulgent blob that demands mediocrity, deception, and most of all compliance to the long standing myth of American exceptionalism. Bush the Junior did not appear out of a vacuum. He was the latest in a long line of borderline/outright war criminals who have graced the American political stage, playing all to well to the bloodthirsty Coliseum, constantly demanding fresh slave blood, more exotic animals, and steaming loaves of sweet bread.

It is first rule of sales. Determine your target market's deepest fears and desires and cater to them in the most effective manner, through the repetition of carefully shaped myth. The bold might even call it lying.

Our overlords have a better name for it - product placement.

[warren pease]

22. That's really excellent...

Took me about 800 words to say pretty much the same thing on another Moyers/media sluts thread.


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[HCE SuiGeneris]

11. Not.Going.To.Happen.

Until we can reform ownership of media, we will be subjected to the corporate agenda and targeted messaging.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

12. The only people who watch PBS are us wonks who knew it all already.

n/t

[bdamomma]

20. try to e-mail the link to one person you know

I just sent it to my cousin in Massachusetts. Pass it along.

[youthere]

24. hee hee...I sent it to everyone in my adress book.

I figure at least ONE person is sure to watch it all.

[electron_blue]

13. Well, the motive is still there. They'll make more money by giving Bush admin a bye

Although I think/hope it'll wake up some major newspaper editors.

[OneBlueSky]

14. no, it's a matter of ownership . . . mega-corps own both the media and the White House . . . n/t

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[ClintonTyree]

17. No

Like the Bush administration they'll refuse to take responsibility, or even admit they made mistakes for that matter. Nope, business as usual.

Now, let's lay off hundreds of more employees, the stock is starting to slip a bit. Shut down some more foreign bureaus, we can't afford to keep reporters in the field. Print the White House press release as written, we know they're telling the truth now. :banghead:

[Marie26]

21. No, but it's possible the public will.

Check out the Moyers blog on the PBS site - it crashed last night because so many people wanted to comment & ask questions. On Washington Journal, many callers brought up the expose to call out Bill Kristol. TWO people brought up the documentary to me today, and usually, these people are not very political. I think word is getting out, and the public is getting pissed.

[DemGa]

23. "Buying the war" not playing in my area till the 29th

:eyes: