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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:24 PM
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If the Republicans win back the House with these tactics...?
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:32 PM by kentuck
Then the Democrats should do the same thing the Republicans have done when they are in the minority. They should block and obstruct everything they propose. They will not get any taxcuts. They will not give more to the wealthy. They will not decimate what regulations are left. They will get absolutely nothing. They serve no purpose. If Democrats must be the minority Party, then let them be just like the Republicans.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:25 PM
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1. Yeah... Right!!!!!
Democrats will do that, sure thing...and there is ocean front property in Arizona for sale real cheap..
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:41 PM
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7. That was Lex Luthor's plan and we know how well that went. n
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:25 PM
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2. that would require the dems to stand up for something
I mean, we always had more elected officials when in the minority then the GOP currently has. But of course if you take all dems, minus conservatives, you have a very small amount of people that are really on our side..
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:26 PM
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3. Part of the reasons the dems were mollified into rolling over for anything * proposed was
9-11. Everything, no matter how unrelated it was, revolved around the solitary fact we were at war with "terrorism" and we had to give * whatever he wanted right away. PATRIOT Act? Passed within 48 hours of introduction without debate. War with Iraq? No problem. Tax cuts? How much do you want? To vote against any of these measures was seen as unpatriotic and in favor of terrorism at the time.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:27 PM
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4. Democrats will never resort to the tactics the GOP uses to win elections
Democrats believe the system works, even when the other side isn't playing by the same rules.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:28 PM
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5. Republicans are not going to "win" back the House.
They don't need to.

We are handing it over to them.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:28 PM
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6. K&R....For justice....
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:42 PM
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8. You will get ":We are not like them.".
When are they going to learn "We are not like them" has put
them in a weakened state???
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E_Pluribus_Unitarian Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:43 PM
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9. We lost our chance...this time, anyway.
Just like in boxing, where you have to go for the first-round knockout, because if you let the other guy hang around for very long, he gets to regroup and regain the advantage. (Or, in baseball, some pitchers can be "taken out" in the early innings, but if you let them recover and hit their groove, then you've lost the chance to defeat them.) We had a great chance to ride a wave of reform. The pendulum had swung strongly in our direction, and we should have gone for that knock-out...kept the Republicans off their stride, anticipated their arguments and overpowered them with our own. That was our duty, and in the interest of bipartisanship and civility we passed it by. Now, the other boxer has been given the opportunity to regroup...the pendulum deprived of its chance to make its natural swing in the direction of correction. Maybe next time we'll be better prepared.

In all honesty, however, I don't think Obama was the person we needed most at that particular moment. Neither were Pelosi and Reid. We needed pitbulls...we got administrators.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:49 PM
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10. If only they had done that during the Bush administration,
a lot of damage would have been averted!

Unfortunately, I don't see the Congressional Dems ever doing this. Instead, they will be falling all over themselves to give the future Republican president anything s/he wants.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:10 PM
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11. I am convinced that Democrats find it much easier being the
minority party.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:45 PM
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12. The problem with Dems.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 01:55 PM by Tippy
Democrats ask...Who in the hell is running the show? (well I know who will be running it soon) but now today, the voters are in charge we can still do this if enough Dems get angry enough, We can do it with phone calls, letters, and not just letters to Congress and the President, in those letters we tell them we are writing letters to the Editor with our demands. It will take a lot of voices. BUT WE DO RUN THE SHOW....When writing or calling remember the past, remember those votes where they voted against the people and for the special interests. Remember what Bush did to us and our country...Remember what deregulation did to our lives. Remind them how many lives were lost because of a lie, Bush Lied and our men and women in the military DIED, remind them with actual numbers. Don't ask, DEMAND JUSTICE We must point out every lie and counter with the truth and back it up with verifiable truth. Because the truth IS on our side.

Here is a letter to the Edtor that was in our paper:

Questions raise concerns

Generally, when you are in a hole it is best to stop digging. Apparently, Congress and the administration haven't learned this! Trillions have been spent on TARP, stimulus packages, bailouts, Cash for Clunkers, and to date nothing has worked. This shakes the trust of the people in the government and makes us wonder if they know what they are doing by running up such a massive debt. The arrogance of the administration and Congress and the use of sledge-hammer politics to pass the (so-called) health care reform looks more like an effort of the government to put insurance companies out of business, take over and ultimately limit health care. If the health care proposal is so wonderful, why is more than one-half of the adult population opposed to it? Why all the secrecy in its preparation? And why did Senators Pelosi, Landrium and Nelson, among others, need massive bribes and pork projects to get them to support the legislation? And why are unions specifically exempted from paying the taxes on their health care plans should the bill pass? When asked about this, the arrogant Sen. Reed said the promise of money was available to everyone, and if they didn't avail themselves, it was their fault. Oh, and the pharmaceutical companies were initially opposed to government-run health care, but after a private back-room meeting with the president, they flipped, even providing funds for television advertisements supporting the program. Since this meeting, average prescription drug prices have gone up by 8 percent.

The arrogance of the administration and Congress and the use of sledge-hammer politics to pass the (so-called) health care reform looks more like an effort of the government to put insurance companies out of business, take over and ultimately limit health care. If the health care proposal is so wonderful, why is more than one-half of the adult population opposed to it? Why all the secrecy in its preparation? And why did Senators Pelosi, Landrium and Nelson, among others, need massive bribes and pork projects to get them to support the legislation? And why are unions specifically exempted from paying the taxes on their health care plans should the bill pass? When asked about this, the arrogant Sen. Reed said the promise of money was available to everyone, and if they didn't avail themselves, it was their fault. Oh, and the pharmaceutical companies were initially opposed to government-run health care, but after a private back-room meeting with the president, they flipped, even providing funds for television advertisements supporting the program. Since this meeting, average prescription drug prices have gone up by 8 percent. The rapidly diminishing influence as a world power and the increased risk in the United States from terrorist attacks affects all of us; our government seems to be reluctant or at a total loss on what actions to take. Why can't the administration and Congress level with the American people? Where's the transparency? Do you and your family feel safe? Who can we trust?

My reply:

In answer to a Letter to the Editor dated 1/24-2010...

When Bush took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion. When he left, it was $10.7 trillion. That's a difference of $4.97 trillion.

The debt had shot up significantly during the last few months, of the Bush Administration mostly due to the economic meltdown of 2008 and the government's efforts to shore up the federal banking system. Bush administration laid out a radical bailout plan with a jawdropping price tag, a takeover of a half-trillion dollars or more in worthless mortgages and other bad debt held by tottering institutions.

What is the cause of this melt down? DEREGULATION Who was responsible for DEREGULATION? The Republican Party, the Party of NO, the same party who refused to work with Democrats on HCR.

Direct quote, "Prescription drug prices have gone up by 8 percent". Gee, mine have not risen since your so called backroom meeting took place, but I can tell you why they have risen so dramatically in recent years.

Annual prescription drug spending per elderly person has grown from $559 in 1992 to a projected $1,205 in Oct. 2000. According to a report by the PRIME Institute at the University of Minnesota College of Pharmacy.

The institute studies economic and policy issues related to pharmaceuticals. By 2010, seniors will spend an average $2,810 a year on prescription drugs, the report predicts.

Pharmaceutical manufacturers are spending more than ever before on advertising and promotions. New drugs continue to come on the market, and drug manufacturers continue to raise the price of drugs. More people are taking more prescriptions than ever before. The result is an increase in the cost of prescription drugs for you and everyone in our community..

President Obama was elected in Nov. of 2008. Need I say more?

( I really could have used a little more anger in this one)



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