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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:25 PM
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MSNBC's hypocrisy about Guiliani
On Countdown Laurence O'Donnell is railing about Guiliani's lie on Good Morning America. But "America's Mayor" was on Morning Joe this morning and made the exact same claim. Joe, Mike, Dylan Ratigan and Mike Barnicle did not correct him. Joe even threw out some dishonest GOP talking points of his own.

To me this is selective outrage by MSNBC and O'Donnell. If they are going to call out GMA and George Stephanopoulos for not correcting Guiliani; they should call out their own people who did also did not correct Guiliani. Not to do so is just hypocrisy on their part.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:27 PM
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1. No, it's proof that today's News is simply Entertainment. Stuff to run between the ads
which make the money.
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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:29 PM
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2. Don't hold your breath...
It's been so frustrating, seeing them pull in their horns and acquiese, time after time. Scarborough is blatant, but the other "would-be" liberal voices, constantly disappoint.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:29 PM
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3. Morning Joe is a GOP shill show. Countdown isn't
O'Donnell MOST definitly isn't a GOP shill. Why do you call it hypocrisy that different hosts, different shows, come at the issue from different angles? MSNBC is not one voice, but a platform of many voices.

Are ya whining about Joe's show or Countdown?
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:39 PM
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5. It's not Countdown vs. Morning Joe
It's GMA vs. Morning Joe. Countdown is criticizing GMA and George Stephanopoulos for not correcting Guiliani's lie. But he was also on Morning Joe and said the same lie but none of the 4 MSNBC employees present corrected him. The hypocrisy is that if O'Donnell is going to call out GMA and Stephanopoulos for not correcting the lie, he should also call out the Morning Joe crew who didn't correct him either.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:33 PM
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4. agree
and for that matter, can you imagine how many times someone like Pat Buchanan would be one of the "worst persons in the world" if he were on a different network?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:42 PM
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6. Correct although Mica called him on it
even though she was shouted down by Joe Scum.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:17 PM
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13. Not really.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:49 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but painting Lawrence O'Donnell with the same broad brush you use to
---rightly---tar Joe Scarborough just won't fly. I often share your anger at MSNBC for offering a daily microphone to Joey the Scab, but Larry O'Donnell is one of the best, most honest and ballsy voices we have on any network.

Criticize MSNBC all you like, but O'Donnell is one of the very few liberals willing to go on TV and let the world see that he is righteously pissed off when he calls the likes of Rudy "9-11" Giulianni a LIAR.

We could use more like him.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:15 PM
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11. Not paint O'Donnell with the same broad brush.
Am criticizing O'Donnell for going after GMA and George S. for not correcting Guiliani while ignoring the Morning Joe crew when they let Guiliani tell the same lie without correcting him either. That is the hypocrisy.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 09:28 AM
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17. Was the GMA show and the Joe show on the same day?
If they happened at the same time then I might tend to agree with you, however I believe the Joe show was the next day. It is pretty hard for Countdown to talk about Lies from the future.. Possibly we will hear something about it next week..
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 10:35 AM
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19. Both were on Friday morning. NT
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:56 AM
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15. +1 n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:51 PM
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8. the media is no longer a friend of democracy. it's simply a profit center anymore.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:53 PM
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9. Sorry, they're different hosts with different agendas. O'Donnell is kicking
a*s tonight, and I'm enjoying every minute! :toast:
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:17 PM
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12. But it is still hypocrisy for him to criticize GMA
for not correcting Guiliani when the Morning Joe crew didn't correct his lies either.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:05 AM
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14. Fair
enough. :hi:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:59 PM
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10. On CNN, Wolfie posed a question about Guilliani to his panel of experts.
The question was this: "Was the Ft. Hoot shooting an act of terrorism, as Mr. Guiliani has claimed?"

The question was not: "Is Mr. Guiliani a lying sack of shit for claiming that no acts of terrorism occurred on W's watch?"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:34 AM
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16. By calling out GS, who was seen by millions of viewers vs. MJ seen by
a few 100K, the message was sent to all perpetrators of this lie. MJ, included.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:22 AM
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20. They should have called out both. nt
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 10:01 AM
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18. What do you expect?
George Stephanopoulos is just another worthless media hack who has been bought body and soul by his masters. The vast majority of these puppets are a total waste of time and would sell their mother's to a whore house for a buck.
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