Silent thread in support of Rep.'s Slaughter, Lee, Woolsey & others determined to pass REAL reform

[Faryn Balyncd]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4196719





http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kC5MT2r5U8s/SgXOI2sq9gI/AAAAAAAAKCw/dFSO2N3fVN8/s320/Rep+Barbara+Lee.jpg








:kick:

[EFerrari]

1. .

[t0dd]

2. K&R. Don't forget Massa and Kucinich.

...!

[Faryn Balyncd]

3. ..!!

[Pirate Smile]

4. Kill the Bill and there wont be any reform for a decade. If you believe they are going to kill this

bill and then re-take up HCR & pass something better next year then you are delusional.

[t0dd]

5. You're the delusional one for thinking this bill is anything but a corporate giveaway

So stop flaming others that hope for real reform.

And yeah, this "reform" may pass. But we'll see if the mandate survives. Many of us believe it is unconstitutional.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Don't kill the bill and you will be raising taxes on the working class

Health Care Excise Tax = A Big Middle Class Tax Increase

Contrary to claims by proponents that it will affect only “Cadillac” health plans, like those enjoyed by Goldman Sachs executives, according to Joint Committee on Taxation(i) data the excise tax will:

• Affect 19 percent of workers with employer-sponsored health coverage in 2016.
• Affect nearly 25 million households(ii) in 2019, including one-fifth of middle-class households making between $50,000 and $75,000.
• Affect about 25 percent of health plans by 2019.
• Cost affected households an additional $7,500 in taxes on average between 2013 and 2019, or more than $1,000 a year.
• In 2019, cost affected taxpayers who are millionaires an extra $2,600 in taxes and those making between $50,000 to $75,000 an extra $1,100 in taxes, but the wealthy taxpayers’ income will be at least 13 to 20 times greater.
• Be a tax increase of 0.1 percent of income for those households affected that make more than $1 million a year and be a tax increase of 1.4 percent for those households affected that make $50,000 to $75,000.

The JCT assumes that 82.5 percent of the revenue raised from the tax will be generated by increased wages to make up for health benefits cuts and increased cost sharing. However, most employers say they will not increase workers’ wages in response:

• Only 9 percent of human resource executives in a recent Towers-Perrin survey said if health care reform reduced their benefit costs would they increase salary or direct compensation; 78 percent said they would retain the savings in the business as profit.
• Just 16 percent of health plan sponsors in a recent Mercer survey said they would convert any health care cost savings into higher pay for their workers.

http://www.healthcarevoices.org/pages/impact-of-the-excise-tax-on-the-middle-class

[omega minimo]

12. What if the choice is Kill the Bill or Kill the Party?

[grytpype]

6. Cough.

[me b zola]

7. .

[hootinholler]

9. .

[jgraz]

10. .

[IRemember]

11. .

[omega minimo]

13. (why are we whispering................?)

support these Real Progressives!!!!

[Laelth]

14. I hope they stick to their guns and vote against the bill if it doesn't contain a "robust" PO.

In the end, I think they'll be good soldiers, and that will be deeply depressing. If the Progressive Caucus won't represent liberals, then who will?

:dem:

-Laelth

[mmonk]

15. .

:patriot:

[thotzRthingz]

16. Oh look at this topic, over which I just tripped! (bumpity bump) k&r (n/t)

[Land Shark]

17. Support. K&R n/t