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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:19 AM
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Where do you think you are? Who do you think is in charge?? (LONG)
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 12:28 AM by cliffordu
People have been doing a lot of shouting:

"The President is owned by the corporations. He is a tool of business and has sold out Democrats, the Progressives, Liberals, People of Color...."


They do so using a nationally advertised computer, while watching a heavily advertised Cable "news" show where 'issues' are discussed by heavily paid operatives who are interested in the churn more than substance, in the filth more than facts. They are not paid to inform, they are paid to capture attention between car commercials.

The screamers drive these advertised cars- cars designed, marketed, financed and insured by those very corporations and their subsidiaries that advertise and control the very media that was meant to inform.

The same corporations that supply home loans, credit cards, stocks, happily 'administer' their 401K's and their (corporate) stock folios.

Those corporations don't just sell goods and the credit to obtain them, do they??

They sell the Pursuit of Happiness - our heavily advertised status and sense of place in the world....what Tyler Durden called 'versatile solutions for modern living..'

The feed our lifestyle obsession, as well as our children.

****


Let's get something straight:

YOU are not a voter to them. You are a consumer. A line on a quarterly report someplace near the bottom, after the profit and loss ratio of the "financial Instruments" like the credit default swaps that tanked last year.

Unlike voters, consumers have little recourse if they are displeased with their place in the food chain.....

Don't make waves. Lose your job and your shit benefits will leave along with your pristine indentured servitude rating to the Corporations: Your Credit Score.

Owned, PWNED, Debtor's prison. Same same.

If they own US, why not the gub'ment??


Politicians have their own lifestyle obsessions: Power and prestige and the kind of national influence only the corporations can provide...

The only thing sweeter than getting your face on television and in the Congress is getting the backing of the corporations you can 'help' with Great Ideas in Legislation (tm). Airtime on MSNBC and being a celebrity and a fucking US Senator in the Fucking CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a powerful motivator....

An aphrodisiac so powerful there is no position so absurd as not to be trumpeted as the 'way forward' No oath so sacred that cannot be abandoned at the first sign of discomfort with their 'constituents'...their corporate backers.....hhe lobbyists working through the ranks, whispering the promise of better fundraisers......

What to do...what to do.....

We cannot have it both ways. We cannot support the corporations with our work, our leisure, our lifestyle choices, livelihoods, insurance needs, recreational purchases and logo wear and expect our politicians to NOT have logo wear of their own.


Short of literally pulling a 'Fight Club' and bringing the whole thing down...which although a fulsome juvenile fantasy and fun to imagine - would never be attempted here as long as a new Ipod comes out next fall and that new car smell can keep us on the phone selling our wares or at the metal press making lapel pins or managing websites......

Because we are consumers, after all. It's what we do. It's why we work so hard and long.

We are more terrified of being broke than being bought and sold like another commodity. Plain and simple.

Because along with being Consumers, we are also Consumables -

Not human Beings....Human Resources, to be used and discarded, hired to serve without question the very corporations that supply our lifestyle enhancement products, and our food and our funerals.

It's why we are at war - 9/11 being a reaction to our taking a huge dump all over the middle east for oil....And natural resources for new consumer items are getting more expensive all the time.....

In all fairness, we DO export something - We export the consumer culture, not democracy. We cannot survive without raw materials and new markets.....


******


It's why you'll never see a truly progressive President. The corporations won't allow it. They wont allow a truly progressive conversation any air time on CNN, won't allow the Usual Suspects to be exposed for the callow manipulators and craven whores to the corporations they really are.

Which is why they spend so much time ignoring who's behind the scenes forming tea parties and sliding fake poll results into the 'discourse' and why the talking heads let the 'conservatives' slime and slander the President with everything from death panels to Nazi-ism to communist conspiracy....

The churn sells. Progressive "do unto others' not so much.

Notice how much time the news organizations gave to the teabaggers?? Two things:

The Churn.....Big ratings at the rage...And

Because they're no threat to the Advertisers. Blame the politicians for the problems in our consumer lifestyles and the real doers and movers can keep on keepin' on...Bid'ness as usual...



****

Like most right wing 'Patriots', the Teabaggers all seem to possess the astonishing trait of being content to consume everything in life the Media wants to shove down their gullet: "have it your way" Jingoism dressed as patriotism.....Ram tough, brighter and cleaner Jesus..."hero" as a word to describe any and every small act, no matter how minuscule. That shit creates emotion, and emotion sells soap. The Media loves them for this.

****


So we can all get together and get our furious on that the President had the Insurance companies in the room when creating the insurance act - and that he bailed out the very people who exploited the lax rules in the credit markets and drove the world financial (spelled corporate money) into the ground......And that he seems to be 'More of the Same'....But he really ain't.

With the not so simple act of STARTING to hold the insurance corporations accountable for their actions, he has begun the 10 or 15 or 20 year process of boiling very large frogs:

To create an atmosphere where Corporations can be edged out of health care, and maybe Energy......


But this ain't easy and it might not be that Obama can get much done that will please me, or you or anyone in 4 or 8 short years.....

Because they are in charge. They control the money and the Media. And not even the President can fight that by himself. Consider the fucking blue dogs for a minute.

Until that changes, Until we stop supporting through our consumption the corporate control over the media and the message, neither you or I have ANY real business complaining....Until we STOP being happy participants in our own subjugation, out own oppression, our own exploitation.


I'm afraid that it will continue until the oil wells and the Ipod stocks go dry.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:22 AM
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1. General Strike n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:23 AM
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2. Absofuckingloootely.
I think it's the only way.
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voc Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:05 AM
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21. Nailed it.
Truth.

kick!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:49 AM
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27. how will it be organized? i know, details, details.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:20 PM
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34. I don't have a clue.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:34 PM
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37. The old fashioned way
Handbills. Telephone Polls. leave the info on the seats of buses. Hell, we've got the whole fucking Internet? Pick a day and then don't go to work. Take whatever time you need to get the goddamned info out and then STRIKE.

I swear, sometimes I think all that humans (american version) are good for is whining about what they think cannot be done.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:02 PM
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48. well, do it then. i don't doubt it can be done, but seems to me there's
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 03:05 PM by Hannah Bell
a reason it isn't being done, & that's because the hard slog of organizing that makes such things happen isn't being done. & i'm not talking about putting up handbills. you don't just call a general strike & get people to turn out. even a limited action like the mississippi freedom rides had years of work behind it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7354809
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:36 PM
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38. Good question
It's not as if we mine their resources or make their widgets anymore. Essentially our function has shifted from human 'resources' to human consumers. But as stagnant wages and unemployment continually skyrocket, we don't have much influence there either.

(Yet they've been cranking up the police state tactics and repressive legislation AS IF they were already responding to a general strike. It's weird.)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:21 PM
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35. +1 Big time
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:34 AM
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3. Righteous Rant, cliffordru!! I wish i could concur with your conclusion, but I beg to disagree.
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 12:38 AM by bertman
It's not going to happen in incremental, baby steps over the next 10 to 20 years. By then we workers will be crushed by the heels of the corporate boots. The moment for a strong, dynamic leader to galvanize the people to fight the corporate structure is NOW. I thought that we had elected that man to be the President, but he has proved to be the Grand Compromiser.

Public revulsion at the corporate takeover by Wall Street, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance is at an all-time high. The opportunity to channel that public anger and turn it into action is being squandered because of political timidity. That just won't work for me.

You certainly put forth a thoughtful and provocative argument, though.

Edit to say that I am ON BOARD for the General Strike idea. But I'll give you ten to one odds that the President will mobilize the guard and unleash the fascists when it happens. Or, given the reality of the Patriot Act, the leaders or adherents who try to gin it up will be snatched and stashed like the law allows for nowadays. Pre-emptive detention to avoid civil disturbances, ya know.






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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:46 AM
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5. Thanks -
But I don't think there is a way to get ANYTHING done until the media is brought into line - with the fairness doctine being reinstated -

The WTO riots in Seattle scared the status quo as much or more than 9/11 did - the over-response to any sort of street protest since has been breathtaking - with th "protest areas" or whatever they are called and the pre-emptive round up of the organizers in Minneapolis before the R convention....

Charging one of the activist reporters with terrorism...... (Amy Goodman??)


There will never be street activity of any stripe on the level of the anti-war protests of the late 60's and early '70's again.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:40 AM
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4. I'm gonna read this right after I run by Walmart and grab a Mocha Latte at Starbucks...
Just kidding, been boycotting both since their inception, practically.

You said a mouthful, all accurate and at the heart of the matter.

Nice one, cliffordu.

Recommend.

:thumbsup:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:49 AM
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6. Thanks my good friend.
Your review is much appreciated.


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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:55 AM
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7. My rec and NYC_SKP's rec bring it to one rec. RUH ROH. They're still awake.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:36 AM
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18. Thanks.
And yes they are......the little scamps.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:06 AM
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29. I swear, some people must be cruising the threads with one finger on the unrec button...
...and the other right up their ass.

ewwww.

:donut:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:20 PM
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33. I hope they mix up thier fingers.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:56 AM
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8. ANSWERS:
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 12:59 AM by Double T
Where am I?

ANSWER: I'm living in the failed state of the 'corporate republic of massive greed'.

Who's in charge?

Answer: The massively corrupt and insatiably greedy corporate criminals and their top 5% investors aren't only in charge; they have a choke hold on the rest of US and are trying to squeeze every last penny and breath from our bodies and 'loaded with unending fees' bank accounts.

Any other questions???

Oh, by the way, nice rant!!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:02 AM
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20. +1000 nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:03 AM
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9. I like this but 7/8 of the post explains why your conclusion is wrong. K&R. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:09 AM
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11. More - let me know -
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:09 AM
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10. Cable "news" show where 'issues' are discussed by heavily paid operatives
Well said.

That includes the folks on "our side".

The entire OP is great ...but I always love it when someone points out that ALL the folks on Cable "news" are in the shell game as well.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:10 AM
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12. Thanks.
:hi:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:12 AM
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13. 4th Rec. Now I'll read it all the way through and tell you what I think, lol.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:14 AM
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14. That's my method, too....
Don't tell anyone....
:rofl:
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:18 AM
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15. While I completely agree with the OP
I'm not so sure "Progressive" isn't itself a movement that supports the type of consumerism you criticise
That doesn't have to be a negative, but as we progress we create, as we create we accumulate. Progress
creates obsolescence which creates waste be it technological or human. Maybe we need to be still for a
while. Stop and consider the consequences of Progress.

I consider myself a Progressive for the lack of a better word.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:50 AM
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19. EmeraldCityGirl, you should read "Cradle to Cradle" by McDonough and Braungart.
All about planning everything to be reused and recycled, including how we build homes, offices, factories, etc. It's all geared toward planning for minimal energy usage with maximum enjoyment and utilization of the spaces.

A great concept but it may be too late for it to have an effect.

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:06 AM
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22. Thanks, I'm always looking for a good book.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:23 AM
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16. Righteous rant dude, and some good replies. Glad to KnR, but don't have much to add...
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 01:27 AM by Hekate
I too am perturbed by the fact that at some point in the 20th century, "citizens" were replaced by "consumers". Very. It's a whole different animal.

Hekate
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:30 AM
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17. Thank you.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:30 AM
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23. I have not been doing that much shouting
also, I have not seen that many TV ads for the Compaq that I use. I have seen far more ads for Mac, which I have never used and Windows 7 which I don't have.

I don't have Cable TV either and my car is a 1993 Ford Tempo that I hardly ever drive. True it is insured by GEICO and I see an ad for them approximately every 3 minutes or so, but they also seem to have the lowest rates. I see even more ads for Sonic and I have never gone there (I am always afraid they are gonna hit me). Nor am I gonna see Avatar or any other movie.

Plus, I work for the local government and not a corporation. I can make waves as a consumer and not lose my job. It is only as a worker that a person needs to curb their activism.

I am not THAT much of a consumer. For one thing, I don't have the income for it, and I sorta consume alternate news through DU and the Daily Howler and 14%, although the first one is often largely TV driven.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:30 AM
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24. WWE and Nascar are a whole lot more popular than Yoga and libraries

There is a synergism between the corporations, the profit incentive and the incredibly lazy and unthinking average Joe that wants to drink a beer and see either some hard bodies or fast cars collide.

Is it the corporations fault that people line up to throw their money away on junk or is it the mass consumption orgy that makes corporations succeed with such great ease.

It is the Gordian knot to unravel how to strike a match and ignite the imagination of the masses.

John Lennon we need you back.

A righteous rant from some one who is a modest consumer and a generous spirit.

Recommended.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:00 PM
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30. Thanks -
...And you are right about the 'peeple' - that the word 'Freedom" has permanently metastasized into "freedom to consume as much as possible...."


Because after all.....they hate us for our freedoms....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:02 AM
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25. Awe Man.....
and all this time I thought it was all Obama's fault,
and he was supposed to do this yesterday...
cause "Yes HE can"....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:03 PM
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31. That's right, Frenchiecat
"...Yes, HE can..."

:rofl:

I just LOVE the idea that people actually think the President is the Easter Bunny.

And then get psychotically angry when he turns out not to be.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:41 AM
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26. Great post, hope you are right about the very large frogs
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:04 PM
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32. Me, too....
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:28 AM
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28. I'll have to come back and reread this
and I gave it a big rec for what I havd read. :hi:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:29 PM
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36. So your advice on this is that reform will take an indefinitely long time
And we might as well lay back and enjoy getting raped by corporations?

Sorry, I don't go in for either proposition. We have seen how quickly countries can reform when the people get pissed off enough. Yes, it generally requires a revolution and revolt, but that can be a good thing (and our founding fathers recognized that).

We don't have the time for that pot of water to boil, even if Obama has turned on the flame(which I seriously doubt that he has). We have millions of people around the world dying because of our corporately controlled society and government. That you're so casual in allowing the dying to continue says a lot about you, none of it good.

Instead of laying back and accepting whatever comes our way, I say stand up and fight, like the citizens we truly are.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:37 PM
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39. I have no idea how the fuck you came up with that take on what I said.
Maybe re-read the piece, maybe get someone here to explain it to ya.

And you aren't going to stand up and fight for anything.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:45 PM
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40. Let's see, re-read it, nope, still the same shit in it that I read the first time
You're essentially making up excuses for why the Democrats are corporate whores just like the 'Pugs (but hey, at least that's progress on your part), and thus we shouldn't expect much, if any sort of change, except that which takes decades to come about.

As far as me standing up and fighting, I've been fighting corporately controlled government and all the side effects of that (war, decreasing civil liberties, etc.) since before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye.

Now if you want to prove how rough and tough you are, you can come join me and my crew for one of our twice weekly anti-war posts this evening. Come on out in the snow, join in.

Oh, wait, that's right, you have more excuses to make for the Dems, and more keyboard commando work to do:eyes:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:51 PM
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41. LOL - you sound just like I do....
Take pictures of your little foray tonight and share them with the class...

I have in the past.

And one other thing - my little screed points out that WE are the real problem.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:47 PM
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45. As cliffordu says, indeed, WE are the problem. So, you
and your crew continue to picket (btw, how's that working out for you) and delude yourselves into thinking that you're not wasting shoe leather and someone is actually listening. Corporatism is not going away and nothing is going to turn around until upper middle class america is no longer able to buy their toys and trinkets. Corporate america couldn't give less than a damn if low income or middle america can't or won't consume cause they were consuming at a minimum, anyway.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:49 PM
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46. Now you're talking.
Until we can't get our lattes, nothing will change.

If Costco closes, I'm down for street riots. Don't wake me till then.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:18 PM
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42. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Stop!!! n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:44 PM
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43. I would title this post, "How this Shit Works- for Dummies".
A complement, you understand.

It's a great rant that hits the right points, only problem is maybe with short attention span readers.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:46 PM
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44. Aw, shucks...
where did you get that picture of my mom???

:rofl:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:53 PM
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47. Don't open THAT door!!!!
:rofl:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:09 PM
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49. Great post my friend. You nail almost everything.
I do however disagree with your premise that Obama is "STARTING to hold the insurance corporations accountable," or that he has any interest whatsoever in a process "where Corporations can be edged out of health care, and maybe Energy......" I believe that whatever reforms he undertakes, one of his immovable core convictions is that Corporations shall NOT be edged out.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:09 PM
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50. I hope you are wrong about that...
I'm thinking once the nose of the frog is in the pot, (to wear a tired bromide even further) slipping the bastard in the rest of the way is gravity.....
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