OMFG! Sheryl Crow eats food! And drinks beverages! And supplies her crew!

[Atman]

This is HUGH! I'm series! The extremist hypocrites at our favorite unmentionable site are jizzing all over themselves at this "find." It seems Cheryl Crow's tour contract actually asks for food and liquor and tea and coffee (with REAL mugs!) be ready for her and her crew at her tour stops. The Smoking Gun actually says "they've never seen anything like it," which I cannot for a minute believe. I saw Cheney's "tour bus" requirements, and it was way freakier than Crow's. In fact, I was struck by how LITTLE Crow asks for. Three-dozen chicken wings one night. Enough sushi for ten on another night. And at each stop, TWO SIX PACKS of Grolsch, and one of "local" beer. *GASP* Plus one bottle of hard stuff at each stop, flavor dependent upon the day of the week apparently. Read the list...does this strike anyone as excessive for an entire concert touring crew? It seem almost CHEAP to me. At least it doesn't ask for the air conditioner to be turned to 50 and FOX News on every channel, like Cheney's. These people will piss and moan about ANYTHING!

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/scrow/scrow1.html

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[Skip Intro]

1. What is the supposed problem with that list?

That she, or some in her crew, enjoys a drink?

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!


She just wants to have some fun. And she's not the only one.

:D

[soleft]

15. Ha

[Hobarticus]

49. Ba-dum bum...

Good one!

[Wickerman]

2. looks like a standard tour rider to me

With some additions/subtractions for personal taste. Some groups will be hardcore about having the rider met to the tee, others really don't give a crap, they just want to eat. Cheney's no doubt, had to bit filled to the tee or failure would result in an IRS audit at best, a hunting trip at worst.

[Autumn Colors]

32. Ditto that

I worked in artist management and that looks like pretty standard to me.

[Tempest]

3. They must not look at many entertainer's requests

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3133444.stm

[tanyev]

4. They didn't ask for the televisions to be pre-set to a certain channel?

Guess they all know how to work remotes.

[SteppingRazor]

5. Be fair to smokinggun.com, though...

they never say they've "never seen anything like it." That quote appears nowhere on the smokinggun page. In fact, what they do say is "TSG has never seen such attention to detail in any other concert rider we've posted," and they're specifically referencing the day-by-day nature of the liquor there. And indeed, that is a pretty unusual request.

[Tempest]

6. It's not an unusual request at all

You don't expect them to bring the unused alcohol with them to their next tour stop, do you?

[SteppingRazor]

12. Yes, it is unusual.

Generally speaking, a band will ask for liquors of all kinds at each and every stop. Asking for a specific one at each stop is, in fact, pretty unusual.

[Tempest]

17. It's hardly unusual

If I were touring, I'd sure as hell ask for the specific beers and spirits that I drink.

As a matter of fact, look at The Smoking Gun for what other's ask for and they are just as specific.

Keith Richards doesn't drink just any whiskey. He specifically asks for Jack Daniels.

[SteppingRazor]

24. Right ... and he asks for Jack Daniel's every time.

He doesn't ask for Jack on Mondays, Skyy Vodka on Tuesdays, Bombay Gin on Wednesdays, and so on.

I'm just saying that sort of varying of the booze is unusual.

On edit: Just so you know, I'm not just talkin' out o' my ass here. In a previous lifetime, I was a venue roadie (worked for a venue, aiding the roadies of whatever band came through). I've helped set up shows for everyone from the Red Hot Chili Peppers to the freakin' Promisekeepers ( :puke: ), and I've never heard of anything like this particular thing on Crow's rider. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying it's not the norm. That's all.

[Tempest]

26. It's not unusual to me

I drink margaritas on Fridays, Negro Modelo on Saturdays, wine coolers on Sunday and gin and tonics the rest of the week.

I know a lot of people who have specific drinks on specific days.


Something else to consider: not all the roadies (who Crow is also supplying for) go to all the stops on the tour. Some go to the stop after the current one if it's the next day to start setting up. Maybe the guy who wants Jack on Mondays is only with them on Mondays. Ever think of that?

[SteppingRazor]

28. OK, but....

You don't know that on a certain day, you'll be drinking a ginfizz or whatever. That's why most riders include a variety of liquors at each and every stop, instead of this specific liquor depending on what day it happens to be.

And as for this "advanced team" thing. Hmm. We always got a show set up in the morning, day of the show. The only time I've ever seen a show take a couple days to set up — and where, yes, a team was sent ahead of the band — was the Rolling Stones on the Voodoo Lounge Tour (when the hell was that? '95? '96? Somethin' like that). So, I'm not saying that what you're saying doesn't happen, but I set up for dozens of bands, and that's the only example I can think of.

[Karenina]

55. The nit-picking specifications are often used

to ensure the contract was READ THOROUGHLY.

[yardwork]

9. I seem to recall smokinggun showing J Lo's riders and saying the same thing.

And wasn't there something about Britney's M&Ms?

[SteppingRazor]

14. I believe that was J. Lo with the M&Ms...

in any case, my point is that the OP misquotes smokinggun.com. That's all.

[Atman]

33. I may have paraphrased, but hardly misquoted

So, they've never seen such attention to detail, or specific request, whatever. I said "never seen anything like it." And THAT's what you're knickers are in a twist about?

Come on...

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[SteppingRazor]

35. Man, I think this has all gotten a little blown out of proportion...

my knickers are perfectly straight, Atman. I swear! :)

I'm just saying that, if you want to deride anyone over this idiocy, look at the people who are saying what an atrocity this is. As you alluded to in your OP, there are people out there who look at this rider and somehow think there's something terrible about it all. Those people are morons. But I don't think the smokinggun counts itself among them.

I didn't mean to call you out with my original post in this thread. Just to clarify your OP. That's it.

[Atman]

37. Peace, man!

I just think the whole thing is hysterical. I guess right-wingers never go see ANY live shows. Or if they do, apparently, the people get their crews there on horseback (no, wait...horse shit fouls the environment) or bicycles (no, wait, it takes energy to manufacture them) or whatever.

I was just struck by how TAME the requirements were. Really...she sounds like a cheapskate...only three six packs of beer for her whole crew??? They also freak because she uses trucks and buses to get to her gigs. Can't have that. They don't mention how many gallons of fuel Bush uses when he takes Air Force One on a puddle-jump to one of his "love me!" rallies. In fact, during the 04 campaign, it was widely reported that Bush flew AF1 from town to town to meet up with a train which he hopped aboard so he could appear "down-homey" and reg'lar. So he wasted TWICE as much fuel as he needed. And I believe Crow's main tour bus is run on bio-diesel. I guess they want her 'lectric gee-tarz to be solar powered.

Their hypocrisy knows no end.

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[SteppingRazor]

41. No doubt.

I mean, other than trucks, how exactly is a full tour supposed to get from town to town, especially an electronics-heavy tour like U2 on Zoo TV or the Stones on Voodoo Lounge? What're they supposed to do, charter a couple C-130s?

This assumption that environmentally conscious means you're no longer allowed to use any modern technology is just the height of absurdity.

[htuttle]

34. I think it was Van Halen that had the M&M thing

They demanded that a big bowl of them be provided, but with all the brown ones removed. When ONE brown one was discovered by a band member, they canceled the show and stomped the rest of them into the carpeting backstage. At least that's what I remember hearing about it...

[Missy Vixen]

46. I'll bet they do it

to make sure that the rider is read and followed.

I seem to remember the Van Halen "brown M&M"'s story was actually their wanting to be sure the entire concert rider was read and followed.

Julie

[blondeatlast]

7. She has RIDERS? ! The very nerve of that woman!

This is quite tame, actually.

[Horse with no Name]

8. Cheney's requirements (since you mentioned it)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0322061cheney1.html

[Tempest]

10. That's just for the hotel

We don't know what he requests for the places he holds his speeches.

[Horse with no Name]

19. Well I am pretty certain live baby liberals to eat won't show up anywhere

But I am pretty certain it is one of requests!:D

[Tempest]

21. He doesn't actually eat them

He just drinks their blood. ;)

[Horse with no Name]

22. Gotta do something to keep that dead heart beating

:scared:

[SoCalDem]

54. What?? No peeled grapes & slave girls with feather fans ?

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

11. They're shocked that Skoal, Hot Pockets and pork rinds aren't on the list.

Like it would be for their favorite "stars".

[Rex]

13. I don't get it, so what is wrong with any of that?

Are the Rwingers foaming at the mouth over The Karl/Crow meeting? Series, what is the deal? I'm at a loss on this one.

[Tempest]

20. Of course it's about Rove

The timing is no coincidence.

You can tell when the Bushies come out looking bad, the wingers nit-pick.

[qanda]

16. My husband runs sound for some major gospel acts

And I could show you some riders that you wouldn't believe. This is NOTHING!

[Missy Vixen]

47. Send them to the Smoking Gun

I'd love to read them.

If you're familiar with Natalie Grant -- we attended the same church for many years. Her parents' claim to fame is that their little pwecious sang the Star Spangled Banner at the Republican National Convention.

Julie
former fundy

[aikoaiko]

18. Nothing about red M&Ms? geeeeesh.

[Frank Cannon]

48. I heard that Van Halen put that in there for a very good reason

If they showed up at the venue and the red M&M's were in the bowl, that meant that the venue didn't pay attention to the details of the contract, and that there were other, more serious things that that they needed to look into.

Think Great White and the request for a pyrotechnics-ready stage.

[aikoaiko]

53. ahhhhh clever rockers the Van Halen were.

;)

[joe_sixpack]

23. Somehow....

I just don't think entertainers make good advocates for global warming, or political issues in general.

[Horse with no Name]

25. Why?

Just curious what your concerns might be.

[joe_sixpack]

30. Because

the life of a millionaire celebrity is usually so far removed from that of your average Joe Six pack, that the regular folks tend to resent it when the rich act as if their experiences are the same as their's. I don't know anything about the way Crow lives; she may be a shining example of earth friendly living, but the average working class American who isn't as strongly political as those of us who post here, is going to be rightly skeptical.

[Beaverhausen]

31. I think you are wrong. Many people are glad when celebrities bring issues to the public

Joe Blow down the street talking about global warming isn't going to get any attention, but Sheryl Crow, etc. will.

Sheryl Crow is an american, she is a women, she is a citizen and she has every right to speak out on any subject she wants to.

[joe_sixpack]

36. But It's Joe Blow's attention that you're going to need

if you really want to make lasting changes. No one questioned whether Crow has the right to speak out on the subject or not, just how serious she'd be taken. Celebrities can use the soap box and microphone that our society rewards them with and speak about whatever subject they want. If they bring awareness to some cause where its lacking, good. If they spend some of their fortune on good works, even better. But the fact that a person is a talented singer or song writer doesn't make their opinion any better on relevant issues than yours or mine, unless of course it's on singing or song writing. I'd rather go down the street and hear what Joe Blow has to say. I think it'd be more interesting.

[Beaverhausen]

40. Jow Blow only knows what global warming is because a celebrity talked about it

Issues seldom get news coverage unless some sort of celebrity is involved, or some sort of controversy surrounds it.

Celebrities tend to travel more and see more of the world.Lots of them actually get out and get their hands dirty doing charitable works here and abroad.

Celebrities don't tend to need any more attention from the media; most of them who work to bring about awareness of issues they care about truly do care.

[joe_sixpack]

45. Well, if people get their news and causes

strictly from celebrities, then I feel for them. I would tend to think that rich celebrities talking about global warming might have as much of a negative effect on some people as a positive one. But if there's one net person out there who goes out and buys a compact fluorescent light bulb or turns their thermostat down to 68 degrees because of Miss Crow, then more power to her.

[Tempest]

27. Not even ones like Ed Bagley?

Who practice what they preach?

[Oreo]

29. I don't think they're questioning it a TSG

They have over 200 tour riders including this one (which is A LOT more detailed bringing up the question why they say they've never seen one more specific)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/clay/clay5.html

[OneBlueSky]

38. hey, I've seen the requirements for other acts . . . Crow's are modest . . .

and these things are always negotiable . . .

[Rob H.]

39. She eats food?! Man, my image of her is totally blown.

:sarcasm:

I was part of the Student Activities Board when I was in college and the riders could be pretty specific--one hair-metal band had not only specific kinds and amounts of liquor listed but a list of the condom brands they preferred.

[treestar]

42. Freepers as usual distract from the question with personal attacks

[cwydro]

43. Hey, you don't even have to go to another site

there's a hate thread about her in the Lounge right now.

[Atman]

44. I almost think I'd rather go over there than to the lounge!

:scared:

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[Retrograde]

50. Australian Cabernet? What's wrong with American?

I'd insist on a good California Zin myself.

Overall, it doesn't seem all that demanding. I applaud the insistence on local beer.

[Systematic Chaos]

51. At the very end of the article a blurb about Beck:

US singer Beck, for example, contents himself with two packs of rice cakes, a container of hummus, bottles and cans of water, and some plain yoghurt.

This should be listed in the Oxford Unabridged English Dictionary under "unobtrusive". :D

[HuffleClaw]

52. "they've never seen anything like it" likely means they've never seen one so low-key

compared to others. hilarious how the freepers glom onto to such meaningless things. i guess they have to since they have no legitimate gripes.

[Raine]

56. I hope Sheryl Crow is not drinking alcohol

she is recovering from breast cancer and should stick to healthy drinks.