Rock's hall of fame finally admits the Stooges

[BeatleBoot]

Source: The Detroit News

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091215/ENT04/912150397/Rock-hall-of-fame-finally-finds--Lust-for-Life---admits-Stooges

Rock's hall of fame finally admits the Stooges

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is being hit, finally, with a dose of raw power.

Pioneering Ann Arbor punk rock outfit the Stooges will be admitted into the Rock Hall's Class of 2010, organizers announced today. They will be inducted alongside ABBA, Genesis, the Hollies and Jimmy Cliff at a ceremony to be held March 15 at New York City's Waldorf Astoria hotel.

The Stooges were beginning to become perennial also-rans on the Rock Hall ballot, always the bridesmaid but never the bride. The band played Madonna into the Hall two years ago, offering up punk-thrash renditions of Madge's "Burning Up" and "Ray of Light," but it wasn't enough to grease the wheels for entry into last year's class, as the band was passed up for induction yet again at the 2009 ceremony.

Now, things have been righted for the visceral rockers, who formed in the late 1960s in Ann Arbor.

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[BurtWorm]

1. Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo!

Nyuk nyuk nyuk...

[joeybee12]

2. Hmmm...ABBA and NOT Donna Summer...

who is less rock?

[LynneSin]

4. Well clearly they are more rock than Rush, Jethro Tull, Yes, Moody Blues, King Crimson......

:eyes:

[joeybee12]

5. And about as rock as The Supremes....

...there really seems to be very little criteria other than the personal faves of whoever votes.

[Cetacea]

16. ..Procol Harum, Strawbs, Mike Oldfield...

There is clearly discrimination towards prog rockers , no matter how influential or successful.
Still, Abba deserves a spot imo.

[LynneSin]

18. Then change the name to the 'Popular Music' Hall of Fame

Hey, I own ABBA albums and thing they have done some amazing stuff. But ABBA is not 'Rock and Roll'. They are pop music. If Jann Wenner is going to keep influence bands like King Crimoson, yes, Moody Blues, Rush, Jethro Tull and a host of other prog rock bands out of the 'Rock and Roll' Hall of Fame in favor of non-rock pop musicians - then change the name accordingly.

[SoFlaJet]

3. Very Influential band

they deserve it...Gimme danger little stranger...

[DJ13]

6. Is Iggy Pop considered a separate performer, or is he considered a Stooge?

[Cirque du So-What]

10. Unless I'm mistaken

Iggy Pop could be admitted both as a member of The Stooges and as a solo act. After all, Paul Simon is in the Hall of Fame both as a solo performer and as a member of Simon & Garfunkel.

[stevedeshazer]

7. Way overdue.

Good to see this.

[Gemini Cat]

8. Finally!

Their first album is one of my all time favourites.

[Cirque du So-What]

9. Long overdue

Bringing in a few more bands like The Stooges will help dispel notions that commercial success is the primary criterion for admission to the R & R Hall of Fame.

[Zodiak]

11. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...

...Is a wank-fest.

The indoctrinees are simply the favorite bands of the owner and her circle of very rich, very out of touch friends.

All of those that I know that actually play regard the place as a mausoleum for mainstream losers.

"The main criticism of the Hall of Fame is that the nomination process is controlled by a few individuals who are not musicians, such as founder Jann Wenner, (who has filled the position of managing editor for Rolling Stone magazine), former foundation director Suzan Evans, and writer Dave Marsh, reflecting their tastes rather than the views of the rock world as a whole. A former member of the nominations board once commented that "At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist...I saw how certain pioneering artists of the '50s and early '60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in '70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today."<9> According to Fox News, petitions with tens of thousands of signatures were also being ignored, and some groups that were signed with certain labels or companies or were affiliated with various committee members have even been put up for nomination with no discussion at all.<9>"

I like that the Sex Pistols called the place a "piss stain". It was an accurate description.

[verges]

13. Okay, first

you don't cite your source. Second, you're source quotes Fox News. Without better than that, you just become electrons on my screen.

[Zodiak]

15. I yanked it off of wiki, not Fox news

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame

It is unfortunate that Fox is cited in the quote, but it is far from the only citation. Here is the rest of the criticism.

"Another criticism is that too many artists are inducted. In fifteen years, 97 different artists have been inducted. A minimum of 50% of the vote is needed to be inducted, although the final percentages are not announced and a certain number of inductees (five in 2009) is set before the ballots are shipped.<10> The committee usually nominates a small number of artists (12 in 2010) from an increasing number of different genres. Several voters, including Joel Selvin, himself a former member of the nominating committee, didn't submit their ballots in 2007 because they didn't feel that any of the candidates were truly worthy.<11>

The Sex Pistols, inducted in 2006, refused to attend the ceremony, calling the museum "a piss stain".<12>
Controversy

On March 14, two days after the 2007 induction ceremony, Roger Friedman of Fox News published an article claiming that The Dave Clark Five should have been the fifth inductee, as they had more votes than inductee Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. The article went on to say " used a technicality about the day votes were due in. In reality, The Dave Clark Five got six more votes than Grandmaster Flash. But he felt we couldn't go another year without a rap act."<13>

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame would later deny fixing the vote, although they did not deny that late votes were received, saying, "No. There is a format and rules and procedure. There is a specific time when the votes have to be in, and then they are counted. The bands with the top five votes got in."<14>

The Dave Clark Five was subsequently nominated again and then inducted the following year.<15>"

Another thing. Unlike those that vote for this museum of mainstream mediocrity, I am an actual musician who is quite familiar with the sensibilities of other musicians. And considering I live in Ohio, I have heard a lot of opinions about the place. They are pretty much in line with the criticisms outlined in this wiki article. Mostly bad.

The place is NOT an accurate representation of the greatest in Rock and Roll, but the greatest in ticket sales. I left the place laughing my ass off at how seriously the public takes this place. The ONLY metal band that was featured in the whole place was Black Sabbath, with their names written on the indoctrinate staircase. As if metal is not Rock and Roll. Heck, even the workers who worked at the totally over-priced souvenir shop thought that the place was a wank-fest. They left out 90% of what was influential in rock and completely focused on record sales.

[verges]

17. Thank-you. nt

[devilgrrl]

20. That's why Mo Tucker (The Velvet Underground) refers to it as 'The Rock & Roll Hall of Lame'

And she's right.

[NashVegas]

12. Madonna to Perform "I Wanna Be Your Dog"?

I've never been a fan of hers, but this could make me reconsider.

[quispquake]

14. About time!!!

Sadly, too late for Ron Asheton who passed away early this year. But the rest of the band (with James Williamson now on guitar) will still be able to shred pretty hard...Here's hoping they play at the ceremony!!!

[branders seine]

19. Cool! I always liked Moe.

erk

[Popular Front]

21. It's about time n/t