If We Blame McCain For Giving Us Palin, Shoudn't We Be Blaming Gore For Giving Us Lieberman?

[stopbush]

Let's face it - neither Palin nor Lieberman would have the prominence they have these days were they not selected by McCain and Gore to run for the VP spot.

[Tansy_Gold]

1. Yes. n/t

[dkf]

2. He created Joe the Prima Donna. Sigh.

Delusions of Grandeur.

[still_one]

3. and they both lost because of it also. It demonstrates extremely poor judgement of both /nt

[Amonester]

5. uh. psst. Gore won.

Memory is an alien.

[still_one]

7. bullshit. The same advisors that told Gore to pick liberman, told Gore not to recount the

entire state. If he had done that, then you would have been right, but that isn't what happened

[JetJaguar]

11. So was his advice right or wrong?

Pretzels anyone?

Edit OOPS missed the NOT or Knot as it may be.

[still_one]

13. interesting paradox /nt

[Hippo_Tron]

4. Not sure I get your point

Are you arguing that Joe Lieberman would be less of an obstructionist asshole right now if Gore hadn't picked him for VP?

[Zoeisright]

6. Not really.

Palin was a totally unknown before McCain picked her (or rather, the GOP picked her). Lieberman was already a senator. Although I have to admit that perhaps the spotlight gave him a bigger head than he deserves.

I have no idea why he turned into such a vile repuke.

[charlie]

8. Joe already made his bones finger-wagging at Clinton

Which is why Gore picked him. Stupid, awful mistake. But he wasn't pulled up from obscurity, he was already ascendant as the strutting, hectoring "Conscience of the Senate".

[Onceuponalife]

9. I don't know, Lieberman was a lot more decent back then.

Gore was just trying for wider appeal. I wouldn't blame him. Define "give us." Palin didn't make it and Liberman is right where he would have been anyway had he not been chosen by Gore.

[pnwmom]

10. Not the same. Lieberman was already high profile. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

12. Actually, had Gore been elected ...

... I think Joe would have been an exemplary Dem VP.

That's because he's a whore, and a good whore always makes sure the customer who's paying the big bucks gets their money's worth.

I'll say this for Joe: He's a lousy Democrat, a traitor to those he allegedly represents, and an all-'round disgusting human being - but he's one hell of a whore. Can't take that away from him.

Just givin' credit where it's due ...

[Maru Kitteh]

14. Oh but I DO blame Gore (and his campaign staff) for giving us Lieberman

Good people make awful mistakes and that was a big one.

[Maru Kitteh]

15. Oh but I DO blame Gore (and his campaign staff) for giving us Lieberman

Good people make awful mistakes and that was a big one.

[lapfog_1]

16. No, not really.

Joe was a Senator before he was VP candidate.

What "made" Joe what he is today was 9/11 and his resulting conversion to neocon (or maybe he always was a neocon and 9/11 happened to let his inner Leo Strauss out to play). In any event, his pro Israel pro war with any Muslim country changed him into someone progressives didn't like very much, a loyal Bush supporter, a torture supporter, etc. So we primary'd his ass, and he ran as an "independent" (RINO) and we've been stuck with that result ever since. He now, I believe, openly hates all progressives and will do anything, even coming out against a proposal that he has espoused for years, if it will hurt the progressives.

We made Joe Lieberman.

We forgot the number one rule in the art of war (Shaka Zulu) "Leave no enemy behind" and Ralph Waldo Emerson's wisdom "When you strike at a king, you must kill him".

Joe wasn't a king but a Senator, we should have defeated him.

[JCMach1]

17. I blame Joe's disaster of a run for Prez in 2004... caused him to hate Dems

and show his true colors.

Not to mention the 2006 Senate race.

[regnaD kciN]

18. Unfortunately, I do...

Gore has done many great things, but that choice was a disaster that took years to reveal itself.

[Ken Burch]

19. Not sure. But it is a good question.

n/t.

[Ken Burch]

20. The point of choosing Lieberman, from what I can tell

was to continue Bill Clinton's tradition of not giving progressives ANYTHING, either in the platform or on the ticket. Can we all agree that THAT approach needs to be ditched forever?

[yurbud]

21. and if Gore had deviated from the wars that Bush was tasked to start, after Gore's funeral...

President Vichy Joe would have faithfully executed them.

He was financial elites insurance policy.