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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:30 PM
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This might be too big a question for a Friday Night but, If Gonzales did Quit, Who'd replace him?
I mean, I think Dim-son has used up most, if not All of his friends already, so who might we get if our buddy Al left the DoJ?

Jeb?

One of Daddy's friends?

Who?:shrug:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:32 PM
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1. I Understand Orrin Hatch Has Wanted the Job for a Long Time
plus it would be easier to get a Senator confirmed.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:39 PM
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6. I heard that on one of the Sunday morning talk shows.
Orrin Hatch has been sickeningly loyal to Bush as of late. Methinks he wants something from Bush at a time when Bush's popularity is at such a low.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:34 PM
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2. .
that asshole from Texas..Cornyn
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:36 PM
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3. Hatc,Orin reb Utah
nt
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:36 PM
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4. How about Carol Lamm .... or one of the other fired attorneys? Oh the irony!
We need to make sure it's not another incompetent crony
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:38 PM
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5. Joe Lieberman. And, as they say in Louisiana, I gar-on-TEE that.
You just watch.

Redstone
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:14 AM
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20. Ya know, you just might be right.
That would explain his recent Mega-quantities of butt-kissing.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:45 PM
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7. The next AG is currently preparing for graduation from Regent U.
No need to worry about dumb stuff like bar exams when you're on a mission from God.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:49 PM
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8. some mindless RW jackass jackoff
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 11:50 PM by HughMoran
this is why there's no winning with these morans. The goal here is to turn off the public so they will surely vote for a Dem next time - so far things are looking good.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:58 PM
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9. For an idea of what the WH might be looking for to replace Gonzo:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:03 AM
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10. If he was going anywhere, and that is a gigantic IF
I would have to say Theodore Olson. He is BFEE big time.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:10 AM
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11. Ted Sorenson
He's still Solicitor General, isn't he? Martyred wife on 9-11. Died-in-the-wool conservative.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:26 AM
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12. I have despised the man since selection 2000. ....n/t
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:29 AM
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13. Are you thinking of Ted Olson?
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 12:32 AM by tiptoe
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:42 PM
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22. Yes. Sorry. :-) nt
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:14 AM
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14. Jackie Chiles?
Even Kramer's shyster TV lawyer would have a better grasp of constitutional law than Gonzalas. ☺
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:23 AM
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15. No one with realistic ambitions for a future high level

appointments, IMO. That's a reflection on how much damage has been done to the Dept. of Justice and how big the reconstruction job will be between now and January, 2009. Dead end!
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:31 AM
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16. Tony Garza - Ambassador to Mexico
He's my guess - rather unknown, very loyal, Hispanic, and from Texas...

I don't think that chance losing another Senate seat, or I would say Cornyn.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:40 AM
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17. Oh Without A Doubt It Would Be Scott McLellan. A Total No Brainer.
I mean, can you think of anyone more qualified to deflect truth and get away with NOT answering questions? He'd take Gonzo's place SEAMLESSLY!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:44 AM
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18. His twin brother who worked under my brother
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 01:46 AM by IChing
The pool is still not empty in Texas.


It won't happen, gonzo is tied to all the secrets.
He won't leave.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:03 AM
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19. Oh I just had a HORRRRRRIBLE THOUGHT! What about...

Rick Santorum???



The Horror, The Horror...

Oh, I think I made myself sick
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:46 AM
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21. kick n/t
:kick:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:11 PM
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23. John Yoo
A brief primer designed to help you understand the workings of our new, streamlined American system of government by Jon Carroll

Monday, January 2, 2006


Perhaps you have been unable to follow the intricacies of the logic used by John Yoo, the UC Berkeley law professor who has emerged as the president's foremost apologist for all the stuff he has to apologize for. I have therefore prepared a brief, informal summary of the relevant arguments.

Why does the president have the power to unilaterally authorize wiretaps of American citizens?

Because he is the president.

Does the president always have that power?

No. Only when he is fighting the war on terror does he have that power.

When will the war on terror be over?

The fight against terror is eternal. Terror is not a nation; it is a tactic. As long as the president is fighting a tactic, he can use any means he deems appropriate.

Why does the president have that power?

It's in the Constitution.

Where in the Constitution?

It can be inferred from the Constitution. When the president is protecting America, he may by definition make any inference from the Constitution that he chooses. He is keeping America safe.

Who decides what measures are necessary to keep America safe?

The president.

Who has oversight over the actions of the president?

The president oversees his own actions. If at any time he determines that he is a danger to America, he has the right to wiretap himself, name himself an enemy combatant and spirit himself away to a secret prison in Egypt.

But isn't there a secret court, the FISA court, that has the power to authorize wiretapping warrants? Wasn't that court set up for just such situations when national security is at stake?

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court might disagree with the president. It might thwart his plans. It is a danger to the democracy that we hold so dear. We must never let the courts stand in the way of America's safety.

So there are no guarantees that the president will act in the best interests of the country?

The president was elected by the people. They chose him; therefore he represents the will of the people. The people would never act against their own interests; therefore, the president can never act against the best interests of the people. It's a doctrine I like to call "the triumph of the will."

But surely the Congress was also elected by the people, and therefore also represents the will of the people. Is that not true?

Congress? Please.

It's sounding more and more as if your version of the presidency resembles an absolute monarchy. Does it?

Of course not. We Americans hate kings. Kings must wear crowns and visit trade fairs and expositions. The president only wears a cowboy hat and visits military bases, and then only if he wants to.

Can the president authorize torture?

No. The president can only authorize appropriate means.

Could those appropriate means include torture?

It's not torture if the president says it's not torture. It's merely appropriate. Remember, America is under constant attack from terrorism. The president must use any means necessary to protect America.

Won't the American people object?

Not if they're scared enough.

What if the Supreme Court rules against the president?

The president has respect for the Supreme Court. We are a nation of laws, not of men. In the unlikely event that the court would rule against the president, he has the right to deny that he was ever doing what he was accused of doing, and to keep further actions secret. He also has the right to rename any practices the court finds repugnant. "Wiretapping" could be called "protective listening." There's nothing the matter with protective listening.

Recently, a White House spokesman defended the wiretaps this way: "This is not about monitoring phone calls designed to arrange Little League practice or what to bring to a potluck dinner. These are designed to monitor calls from very bad people to very bad people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings and churches." If these very bad people have blown up churches, why not just arrest them?

That information is classified.

Have many weddings been blown up by terrorists?

No, they haven't, which is proof that the system works. The president does reserve the right to blow up gay terrorist weddings -- but only if he determines that the safety of the nation is at stake. The president is also keeping his eye on churches, many of which have become fonts of sedition. I do not believe that the president has any problem with commuter trains, although that could always change.

So this policy will be in place right up until the next election?

Election? Let's just say that we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. It may not be wise to have an election in a time of national peril.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:54 PM
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24. Oh don't even think that! He would be the worst!
But since we have Bizaro President in the WH, you could be right.
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