Obama birthplace attorney files new allegations

[Sub Atomic]

Source: OC Register

Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz had her lawsuit challenging Barack Obama’s presidency thrown out on Oct. 29, but that hasn’t stopped her from filling a new document in the case with a broad array of allegations.

“There was a concerted and a well orchestrated effort by a number of individuals to assassinate my character, endanger my law license and ultimately derail my case against Mr. Obama,” Taitz writes in the document filed with the federal court today. “A number of criminal activities were perpetrated upon this court.”

In response to federal Judge David O. Carter’s earlier statement that he received affidavits from witnesses who said Taitz asked them to lie to the court, Taitz says it was the two witnesses who were lying. Click here to read my story about those wintesses’ claims.

She also complains that another plaintiff with a similar case being handled by a different lawyer is a convicted forger and should not be trusted. She draws a tenuous link between Obama and a Roman Obama, pointing out that the latter studied in Moscow at a school known for “heavy Communist indoctrination.”

She complains of daily death threats, and includes an email and a drawing of a car engine which shows a certain hose that was allegedly disconnected in an attempt on her life.

Read more: http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/12/03/obama-birthplace-attorney-files-new-allegations/26543/

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I think this is who she thinks is Obama:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4mwQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5osDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6655,2037468&dq=roman-obama&hl=en

:lmao:

[Turbineguy]

1. This woman needs a commitment hearing.

She should be put in an institution and be cared for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T83ztrd740g&feature=related

[Sub Atomic]

2. I wouldn't go quite that far.

There are plenty of other people who are more worthy of being cared for.

[damntexdem]

20. True, but still the warden and guards should give her some 'care.'

Whatever happened with the $20k fine?

[Tx4obama]

24. Fine update...

Here's the newest on the fine (Judge Land in Georgia)

Judge Directs US Attorney To Collect $20K From Orly Taitz After Failure To Pay Fine

A federal judge in Georgia has ordered the US Attorney to collect a $20,000 judgment against Orly Taitz after the Birther attorney failed to pay the fine -- which she appealed -- within 30 days.

Here's the full order from Judge Clay Land, of the US District Court in the Middle District Of Georgia:

"Orly Taitz has failed to pay the $20,000.00 sanction ordered by the Court on October 13, 2009. Accordingly, the Clerk is ordered to enter final judgment in favor of the United States of America and against Orly Taitz in the principal amount of $20,000.00. The United States Attorney is authorized and directed to collect the judgment as provided by law.
IT IS SO ORDERED, this 13th day of November, 2009. "

Read more at: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/judge_directs_us_attorney_to_collect_20k_from_orly.php

[Warpy]

4. We're stuck with too narrow a definition of

being a threat to oneself or others. Until she's found screaming with a knife in her hand, she's not going to get committed. By then, it's usually too late and someone has been hurt, but that's what the lawyers have done to mental health care in this country.

[Bette Noir]

26. Not lawyers-- Reagan.

Ronnie Reagan, all by himself. He did it to California first, then the rest of the country.

[Warpy]

27. He had a hell of a lot of help

from civil liberties lawyers.

It also didn't happen as fast as you think it did.

Wiki has a good article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation

The restrictive rules on committing someone involuntarily came from lawyers, not from Reagan.

[jwirr]

30. Correct and lest we forget there were many false imprisonments

done in the name of mental illness before those laws went into effect. I know they have to be refined but I would not want to go back to what we had before.

Women were placed in mental institutions because they complained about abuse either to themselves or their children. They were also place in the institutions with only the signature of 10 people who would often side with a husband who simply wanted to get rid of his wife.

My Aunt was a victim of this 10 person rule. She did have a mental illness but it was not in any way violent or harmful to anyone else. She spent 40 years in an institution working for them every day without pay. When she got out she lived just fine. Her crime? Wearing shorts into town on a very hot day. She was overweight and her husband had his friends sign her commitment papers. Nothing any of us did helped. The state would not admit they were wrong and the husband was very glad to be rid of her - until he took advantage of the burial plot we had purchased for her. To this day I would like to dig him up and put him where he really belongs

[Warpy]

32. I worked in a state mental hospital in the 60s

and there were a lot of women there whose husbands had simply tired of them. Some had been there for decades. All were tranquilized to keep them numb and quiet.

While I was there, a new doc came in and canceled all the tranq orders just to see what would happen. About half the patients woke up and demanded to be released. Unfortunately, they needed a family member to pick them up. Their own families wrote them off when they married and the husband was generally too busy with the replacement to care.

Deinstitutionalization was made for such women. Unfortunately, it was extended to the people who really couldn't care for themselves and the civil liberties lawyers had tightened the definition so far that the only refuge for many of them would turn out to be prison.

Clearly, some changes need to be made. There has to be a golden medium between warehousing people who are simply unwanted and casting people who can't care for themselves out on the street.

I hope we find it.

[No Elephants]

38. Your link does not support your claims.

Lawyers do what their clients need or want. They do not make laws or regulations (unless of course, they become politicians or bureaucrats, but that is not their role as lawyers.) Governments make laws and regulations.

These are the only things your source says about lawyers and lawsuits:

"Class action lawsuits in the United States, and the scrutiny of institutions through disability activism and antipsychiatry, helped expose the poor conditions and treatment."

and

"Many of these advocacy groups were successful in judiciary system. In fact, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit ruled in favor of the Mental Patient’s Liberation Front in the case of Rogers vs. Okrin. <1> This established the notion that patients had the right to refuse treatment."

Doesn't sound too villanous to me.

[Warpy]

44. It might not sound villainous to anyone who doesn't have experience

with mental health issues in loved ones.

My family is full of bipolars. Most are reasonably mild and self medicate with alcohol and manage to function, although they can't hang onto jobs or spouses. A few are very sick if they try that.

Bipolars often go off their medication because they miss the highs. Unfortunately, those highs come at a great cost: wrecking your finances, getting grandiose and paranoid and alienating your friends, losing jobs, winding up on the street. I am not exaggerating here. It has happened more than once in my family.

There is nothing we can do when a person spins completely out of control, even if that person is making verbal threats. Unless that person is found with a weapon in his hand at that time by law enforcement, that person is not deemed to be a danger to himself or others. Never mind he's destroying everything he has and risking his life on the street.

That's what I mean about too narrow a definition.

Once they end up in jail for stuff we really don't want to know about, they get forcibly medicated, they come back to reality, and we are stuck trying to help them paste a life back together again until something else makes them sad and they're desperate to feel better and it starts all over again. It gets old. Earlier intervention would help everyone concerned, but everyone's hands are tied by the stupid decisions that don't look that villainous to people who really don't know what mental illness means to both the patients and their families.

[graywarrior]

3. You know, I've been anti death penalty my entire life, but this could change

[cali]

5. ......

:rofl:

[No Elephants]

40. Meh. Taitz does not merit a change in principles. How about a life with no chance of parole, while

the other prisoners chant continuously, "Na Na Na Na Boo Boo?"

[Warpy]

49. I don't want the woman dead

I just want her evaluated and given the appropriate medication.

After all, think of the inspiring immigrant success story she could represent if she hadn't gone nuts and gotten used by GOP dirty strategists.

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[grytpype]

6. Wow is she nuts.

[kestrel91316]

7. I'm sure all blacks look alike to her. Oy. That article, BTW, places Roman Obama in Moscow

in 1992.

In 1992, where was our own Barack Obama? In Chicago, fresh out of HARVARD LAW.

Someone needs to lock this woman up.

[Bette Noir]

28. And, Roman Obama looks nothing like Mr. President,

and he's from Equatorial Guinea, not Kenya. Could "Obama" be African for "Smith"?

[santamargarita]

8. Oily Taters is crazy

:crazy: :crazy:

[irishcat]

17. Early Taint n/t

[sakabatou]

9. Orly, there's a white jacket I want you to wear...

[FiveGoodMen]

10. Increasingly, this stuff looks like an organized diversion

While Obama does (mostly) the bidding of the right wing, the right attacks him with utter nonsense.

Then the left has to spend all day, every day, debunking their crap instead of insisting that our government actually represent us.

[cali]

11. wow. you're posting crap nearly as crazy as Orly's.

Nobody is spending time debunking this crap. It doesn't even require it. And the birthers are all about racism.

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[L. Coyote]

15. Orange County Pukes again. Check out Falwell and the Arkansas Project connections and beginnings

and you will likely find the same group of nalgas sombreros.

[Cha]

39. Don't let the stupid paranoia do ya in.

[L. Coyote]

13. Spinmeister is best described as the job of turning fantasy into reality, up into down, lies into ..

truth :rofl: Good luck with that :rofl:

Even when the exercise is entirely futile, I suspect it pays really well!

[tomm2thumbs]

14. her BRAIN hoses are disconnected

she should work on getting her own life in order before getting into someone else's life and trying to work on it.

[NikolaC]

16. Good grief that woman is pathetic

and insane.

[shadowknows69]

18. Why hasn't someone disbarred this freak yet?

[DeSwiss]

19. "Orly, I said fifteen....."

[LynnTheDem]

21. Hey Orly, ever notice "Obama" is almost like "Oklahoma"!!11111!!!!

OMG the president is a STATE!!1111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!11111


She's so insane. Literally.

[Jamastiene]

22. Geez, some people just don't give up...

no matter how off the wall their allegations are.

[bluestateguy]

23. Dr. No Tits

nt

[Bette Noir]

25. Lord Almighty, the whole crew needs a committent hearing.

I followed some of the links-- the affidavits read like the script for a telenovela.

Who woulda thunk that Orly Taitz was good in bed?

[snake in the grass]

46. Crazy is often pretty good.

You just have to know how to disengage without getting stabbed in the process.

[dhpgetsit]

29. Talk about clogging the legal system with frivolous lawsuits.

She needs to be disbarred.

[scarface2004]

31. obama is not human!!!!

now what?!?!?!?!

[struggle4progress]

33. Another frivolous filing -- the judge bounced her as without standing, and she responds

with her usual slurry of goop, none of it is relevant to the grounds for dismissal

But not only is she's entirely off-point, she's demented: Since you didn't believe Obama's from Indonesia or Kenya, I'll try to convince you he's from Equatorial Guinea! is approximately as convincing as Since your honor didn't believe my client was in Paris or Albuquerque on the day of the robbery, today we're going to show he was actually in Buenas Aires!

She's incredibly sloppy, too. Anyone can refute her Nobody at Colombia remembers Obama! with a two minute websearch

[demigoddess]

34. are we sure her law degree isn't something she just bought in the mail, from a

spam email ad????:shrug: :shrug:

[HamstersFromHell]

35. OMFG!! THIS IS SERIES!!!!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!

She complains of daily death threats, and includes an email and a drawing of a car engine which shows a certain hose that was allegedly disconnected in an attempt on her life.

So someone unhooked her canister purge vacuum line...OMG she's gonna pollute California's air with unburnt hydrocarbon vapors!! (Yeah, I can read Toyota parts diagrams.)

BTW, WTF is "burry"?

[Historic NY]

36. Orly...that just sounds so foreign...I think she is a foreign interloper.

[sakabatou]

47. Orly is a Hebrew name

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[LynnTheDem]

41. Prof. Michael Baron, Columbia University.

He remembers President Obama from Columbia U.

He should; he was one of Obama's profs.

But hey, let the insane lunatics enjoy their insane lunacy.

And they're doing such a fine job of destroying what's left of the republican party.

:rofl:

[BattyDem]

42. Isn't there a limit on the number of times a person can file the same lawsuit?

:shrug:

Yes, she changes a detail or two, but it's still the same lawsuit! All she's doing is abusing the legal system for her own personal crusade, which is based on nothing more than fantasy and conspiracy theories.

At what point do the courts say, "Lady, you had your shot at this. In fact, you had multiple shots at this and every judge has ruled against you. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

A question for DUers with law degrees: Can she do this indefinitely?

[No Elephants]

43. ...

[BluDemocratGirl]

45. This crazy ass broad needs to be ina mental institution....

ASAP!

[niceypoo]

50. She is in a mental institution

...it's called the GOP

I say keep her in the front lines

[Joe Bacon]

48. All I Want For Christmas...

...is to see this ass disbarred and tossed in jail for failing to pay that $20,000 fine.

Is that too much to ask for, Santa?