He took the hit for us last night. Period.

[kpete]

(kpete: an interesting opinion here, not sure I agree with the "Period." or think the Afghans would agree...


He took the hit for us last night. Period.
by Crispian Day
Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 07:42:38 AM PST

Last night, this President said (by this decision) that doing what he thought was the most moral thing (for the people Bush ruined) was more important than a second term.

And this morning every pundit shit on him. That coward Cheney did it a day early.

This did the President no good in the polls. It could cost him a second term. He knows that. The easy way out, the best for "his numbers" was to pull out. I couldn't believe he sent troops in, not because I hate war, but because I know it was the last thing on earth he wanted to do. I watched Rachel Maddow last night. She went back and forth, saying that he did what he had to do, that he shouldn't have done it. It was hard for her.

..............

It is an absolute fact, no one can dispute it, that terrorists are planning every day. They can to get to us right now. It's easy and we know it. They may only kill a hundred people in a subway but that is like a "10" earthquake throughout America right now. They are bombing someone somewhere several times a year. It is a serious threat. We don't need, and cannot handle another 9/11. But we also cannot live in Bush "red light when I want to scare you" land forever.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/2/809949/-He-took-the-hit-for-us-last-night.-Period.-

[redqueen]

1. Waitwaitwait... Rachel said it was necessary?

I wonder how many DUers emailed her with the link to enlist.

[jgraz]

5. If that enlistment link was good enough for chickenhawk Repukes...

Why not send the same thing to Democrats supporting a war they won't fight in? If you really support Obama's strategy, pick up a rifle and stand a post.

[Winterblues]

16. Afghanistan is really nothing more than an intense training session.

More americans are killed every year in Los Angeles alone from auto accidents than American soldiers killed in Afghanistan.. This is not a war... We have to provide for our troops where ever they are. Food, clothing, paychecks, etc.. The costs really are not that much more than if those same troops were in Texas going through advanced training...Sometimes people here on DU sure can get carried away with things.

[jgraz]

24. So what are you waiting for?

Get down to your nearest recruiting office and go support Our President! :patriot:

[Winterblues]

28. I can tell you have never served..

I did my time..

[walldude]

21. I have been debating on posting an enlistment link

It would be a nice counter to the people who are claiming I am a whiner because I didn't get my pony.

[jgraz]

23. Already done

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x31175

:patriot:

[walldude]

25. Thanks...

Not that it will do any good but it's nice just to have something that will piss off the people who keep telling me I wanted a pony and should shut up because I didn't get one.

[Orsino]

2. He's committed more troops to taking, and giving, "the hit" for us. n/t

[MUAD_DIB]

18. That's what any president has to be faced with.

[Orsino]

19. Even presidents that don't escalate wars. n/t

[MercutioATC]

3. Boogey Boogey Boogey!

Terrorists WHO LIVE IN YOUR CLOSET AND UNDER YOUR BED are plotting against you!

Ever get a flat tire? Terrorists plotting against you.

Bounce a check? Terrorists plotting against you.

Get really drunk and call an ex-girlfriend with an ardent desire to "work things out"? Terrorists plotting against you.


There are viruses that have spent the last million or so years evolving. There are also fatty foods and tidal waves and simple old age....and they've killed more people without even "plotting" than any terrorists have.

Yes, people who want to harm America do exist, but they don't present a risk that warrants this kind of paranoia or expenditure.

[Echo In Light]

10. Exactly. Generally it's only a larger attack when it's in the US, aided by Big Brother

[gratuitous]

26. Gimme that sledge hammer; I'll get that fly!

Now look at all we've won with the saber and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all?

--Phil Ochs

[Ignis]

27. That's not funny.

But I laughed anyway. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the small bright spot in an otherwise depressing subject.

[MercutioATC]

29. Happy to help.

I have an admittedly odd (and often inappropriate) sense of humor. :)

[closeupready]

31. LOL, yep.

Same shit, different day.

[MilesColtrane]

36. "they don't present a risk that warrants this kind of paranoia or expenditure."

"I reject this course (a nation-building project of up to a decade) because it sets goals that are beyond what can be achieved at a reasonable cost, and what we need to achieve to secure our interests."

Sounds like you and Obama have the same basic outlook.

Except that you won't give him 18 months to try to mitigate the damage done by 8 years of Bush's bungling and negligence.

[Romulox]

4. Not HIS blood, nor HIS treasure he is offering up. How is he "taking a hit"??? nt

[Amonester]

6. There are a LOT of people in the U.S. bu$h RUINED.

And way down to their grandchildren at that!

What is the most moral thing to do for them that is more important than a second term?

Not to mention that doing it would assure him a second term...

Just saying.

[Oregone]

7. "terrorists are planning every day"

...upon the magic terrorist dirt in Afghanistan.

Scary. Buy some plastic and duct tape

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. He took that play right of Shrub's book.

:puke:

[NightWatcher]

8. sending more troops = "the most moral thing"?

[Echo In Light]

11. "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." - George Carlin

[jgraz]

12. Damn, he really IS the messiah!

:eyes:

[bigtree]

13. even the last administration's intelligence agencies admitted

. . . that our military presence and activity was fueling and fostering more individuals bent on resistant violence than our forces could reasonably put down. Nothing in the president's plan that would appear to be effective in lessening or eliminating that animosity. If anything, he's increasing the potential for resistant violence by deepening the occupation. 'Terrorists' can plot from anywhere. Troops in Afghanistan are just targets which are within reach of the 'plotters'. Bad strategy.

[Demeter]

14. No Sale

Obama isn't the Messiah. He's Judas. For 30 pieces of silver, he's sold us to the Romans.

[FiveGoodMen]

17. Sure looks that way!

[blindpig]

15. Us? Who is us?

Not me, nor the rest of the American working class, some of whom will indeed 'take a hit'.

However, arms manufacturers, big energy and purveyors of mercenaries are no don't appreciative.

[optimator]

20. Preemption Doctrine and fear

Nobody denies there are groups of people who oppose the USA.
That is not enough reason to kill them.
If they are planning and have the means to attack, then prove it.
We are not republicans, we need facts and evidence, not faith.

[Tailormyst]

22. I don't understand how you come to that conclusion

The ones taking the hits are the Afghanis and our soldiers and their families, and in that order.

[closeupready]

30. Oh, Gawd. Stop with the drama.

n/t

[arcadian]

32. Obama is a place holder for the next GOP President.

And if you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[FiveGoodMen]

34. Good description (of an awful situation)

[RetroLounge]

33. So the Bush Doctrine of FEAR still works with you, I see...

:eyes:

RL

[JoseGaspar]

35. Wow. All that spinning must make the writer dizzy.

LBJ "took the hit" too, by this logic. But, the biggest hitter must Dubya. How come we hated him so much if he was just protecting us? Was it just a matter of style?