If Obama does what Bush could not do, and captures Osama Bin Laden

[HipChick]

What does that change for you?

[Stinky The Clown]

1. Nottafukkinthing

[branders seine]

2. nothing.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. nothing. the boogey man is old news, if indeed still alive.

[gateley]

4. I think OBL isn't really much of a factor these days. I actually believe he's dead.

If not and Obama captures him, I'm not sure how that changes much -- the movement has spread and I don't think they particularly need OBL.

[dana_b]

5. nothing

still too many dead because of this b.s.

[BobRossi]

6. That is fucking funny!

Good one!

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. Nada.

[Kitsune]

8. Why do I care? Osama bin Laden is not some supervillain who poses an existential threat to humanity.

He's a cranky old fuckwit who lives in a cave with other cranky old fuckwits.

Frankly, I'm more afraid of a hypothetical zombie apocalypse despite it being a complete violation of the laws of thermodynamics.

[polichick]

9. Bush purposely let bin Laden go at Tora Bora...

Wouldn't change a thing for me - there will always be another bin Laden if we keep occupying the Middle East.

[pitohui]

20. the murderers will be with us always but you know fucking what?

you still aggressively prosecute murder

until there is justice there will be no peace, used to be a popular saying in central/latin america...think abt it

osama bin ladin funded murder, mullah omar took millions to harbor osama while he did it, both of them need to stand public trial and answer to the families of the dead

don't let this be "steal a little and you go to jail, steal a lot and they make you king" == w're talking mass murder here and too many in this thread think because osama funded a BIG mass murder, we should let it rest-- but if he was say the green river killer, they would want him hunted to the end of time (as they properly should)

[polichick]

22. imo it's not worth losing more young people - bin Laden is a sick old man...

I'd rather prosecute Bush, Cheney & Co. for the hundreds of thousands they killed by staging a fake war.

[pitohui]

28. osama bin ladin is my age so fuck ageist bullshit he is not fucking old or sick

he is a middle aged man w. a lot of fucking resources and you know what? both he and i could live for many a year stirring up many a bullshit in a cave -- i can still sleep on the ground (i tested this by solo camping/hiking this year)

if you think 50 is old fuck you double actually

sorry but that's just soooo fucking offensive

as far as kidney disease rumors, there is no fucking evidence of that, it's just something it was convenient for bushco to have us believe

he's fucking 50!!!!

if you think a man in his early 50s is toothless you have a lot to fucking learn about this life, that's the dangerous age -- hell, i'm a woman and i'd prob. kick your ass (not a threat, i would not do it but i COULD do it) -- the kind of people who auto assume 50 is old are just total wussies

[polichick]

29. You sound like an idiot. nt

[pitohui]

32. you sound like an ageist bigot, sorry but you do -- 50 is not old...

you're going to have a v. unhappy life "chick" if you think 50 is old but i guess if the only value is youth then fine...

it doesn't matter what a middle aged man does, he can kill 2,800-plus people and not go to trial because to you he's toothless, impotent, and useless


wow, just fucking wow

what's going to happen to your head when you turn 30 much less 40 or 50? because you don't have much choice abt getting older...one day you're gonna look back on your attitudes abt age and feel like the fool you are

50 is not fucking old and harmless and "we'll let him walk on a few killings it's too much trouble to have justice"

what is your position on the 90 yr old nazi on trial right now? i guess you think that's shitty and unfair because what can a 90 yr old do and who cares abt justice for the families, right?

or is it only okay to let bin laden walk because catching him is hard and catching an auto worker is easy?

[polichick]

39. Do some research on bin Laden - he's a very sick man...

Certainly not worth the deaths of more U.S. troops.

[EndersDame]

44. I thought he had kidney disease

[zorahopkins]

10. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.

We are not in Afghanistan to capture Bin Laden.

We should bring ALL of our troops home.

Right NOW!

[LooseWilly]

11. Whether or not bin Laden is loose.

And it also changes the name of the boogey man in charge of al Qa'eda.

[Taverner]

12. Bin Laden is not in Afghanistan

[Libertas1776]

13. The sooner that people realize

that catching that piece of shit means bupkis in the grand scheme of things, the better. He has become nothing more than a single granule of sand in a desert of terrorists. Catching him would change nothing. Sending in massive occupying forces would change nothing. Good old fashioned police work would change...EVERYTHING!!!! That is how you combat terrorism, not with boots on the ground, but with "cops on the beat" so to speak. I thought Obama understood that. I guess not.

[Sinti]

14. Bush CHOSE not to apprehend OBL

You are apparently believing an untruth. Bush could have had bin Laden - the Taliban offered him up in October of 2001. They did ask for evidence, however. I don't see that as unfair.

How many other less than factual bits of information are you basing your ideas on? Do you ever wonder?

Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over Sunday 14 October 2001

President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over." He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty". In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir - the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime - told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

[NoSheep]

18. DING DING AND ANOTHER DING!

[shadowknows69]

15. Osama is fucking dead.

But I have no doubt in my mind that President Obama will "get" him now and his ID be incontrovertibly proven by DNA. And I won't believe a word of it.

[pitohui]

16. after bush gave mullah omar and osama a fucking 8 yr head start?

it doesn't necessarily CHANGE anything for me, but it certainly proves that obama is a rock star and bush is a fucking lamer if not an out and out collaborator with evil -- it has been proven that john kerry was right and bush's fucking around let osama escape, something i knew in my heart the day after 911

i could never fucking figure out why, in a world where we were supposed to have a 15 minute response time, bush sat on his hands for 3 fucking weeks

the trail is so fucking cold by now that if obama can fix THAT white boy's fuck-up, well, he's just better and cooler in every way than any politician ever

you don't let murder get a ride, and you don't let the murder of 2,880-plus get a ride, that's what bush did and if obama can fix this...fuck YES i will believe there is a god

saints in the superbowl and osama on trial in a public court of law? impossible dreams...or???

truly if these two things come to be, i will do some serious re-thinking of how much i've been harshing on god since katrina...

[NoSheep]

17. Bin Laden is missing. The people who hired him are not.

I saw what I think was a very reasonable response from Obama tonight to a very difficult situation. It has nothing to do with Bin Laden whatsoever.

[HipChick]

25. Great response...I've never understood why capturing Bin Laden would solve anything

I never believed that he was still alive.. technology is available to reproduce his voice..I never understood why getting him was a goal

[NoSheep]

27. There are probably some misinformed people who care but most people

seem to see through that stuff. Amazing isn't it? It's like the country's best kept secret! We all know he's been on the payroll. We created the asshole to fight the Russians from what I understand. He's our boy.

[aquart]

19. Nothing. I don't give a damn.

And I have no interest in making a martyr of a spoiled billionaire brat.

[scarletwoman]

21. Oh please. OBL has been dead for years. nt

[MichiganVote]

23. I personally have been dying to spend a trillion dollars to catch one bad guy. How thrilling.

[shadowknows69]

31. Really. I mean we even stopped looking for D.B. Cooper after a while.

Usually you like to finish a manhunt before the people who started it all reach retirement age.

[pitohui]

34. how many people did d.b. cooper kill???

people who want to give a walk on murder...un fucking amazing

c'mon people, DU is better than this

do you support the nazi hunters? i bet you do, we all cheer whenever another nazi is caught, some things truly aren't abt money, they are abt bringing an evildoer to public trail so all can see and hear the justice

oh but bringing a nazi to trial costs israel money, when it's a matter of "my taxes" then suddenly it isn't worth the bother of bringing a killer to trial?

WTF?

some of you are long time posters, you know better than this

there needs to be justice and it needs to be seen on the public stage

[shadowknows69]

40. Well probably one if he landed badly.

Which would be one more than we have proof that OBL killed.

[hyphenate]

24. I doubt if he will--

I'm of the opinion that bin Laden is quite dead and rotting in an unmarked grave someplace.

[saltpoint]

26. Hard to say where the tall lean guy is really hiding but a remote cave

seems like a possibility.

Were our folks to discover his whereabouts and somehow capture him the headlines, even on FOX, would be compelling.

They would be high-percentage re-elect numbers for President Obama.

The issue is political, not personal, when the perception is political. It would be an enormous defeat for the Republicans, who after all, backed Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld.

The personal argument is well-represented out there and on DU. But were we to apprehend Osama bin Laden under this president, the issue would be pure politics, and it wouldn't be good for the Pukes.

[undeterred]

30. nuttin

[Sebastian Doyle]

33. Bin Laden is in Hell, not in Afghanistan

When do we invade there?

[Individualist]

35. Bin Laden hasn't been in Afghanistan since he escaped from Tora Bora in '01

[pitohui]

37. well there's the rub, he's almost certainly in pakistan

i don't expect or require obama to catch osama, as i said elsewhere, if he can do that impossible task, he'd be a fucking rock star of all time

[HughMoran]

36. It ain't gonna happen

...so I ain't gonna answer this hypothetical. Obviously he's superman if OBL is caught.

[pitohui]

38. never say never

if the saints are in the superbowl...maybe there is a god

just in case, i'm thinking abt cracking open the prayer book for a change :-)

[Iggo]

41. It changes history by making bin laden alive instead of dead.

Pretty fucking slick if you ask me.

Obama does that shit, color me impressed.

[shadowknows69]

42. If we have to ressurect him to kill him, as a tax payer, I'll be pissed.

Staggering waste of resources when we could be raising dead rock stars like Morrison and John Bonham.

[Blue_In_AK]

43. Not one thing.

[bigtree]

45. will our military posture change?

The military presence and activity is still going to have a self-perpetuating effect of resistant attacks and reprisals, counterproductive to even the most basic of the presidents goals regarding security or stability in Afghanistan.

[MessiahRp]

46. Are we invading Pakistan too? Escalating in Afghanistan won't catch anybody...

It will just help to prop up a bullshit government that stole their elections. Of course Americans are good at upholding offices for those who stole it.

Rp