"clearly the system lets these 4 police officers down, we'll have Mike Huckabee on to explain it "

[underpants]

Heard tonight on the way home (local radio station has Hannity on tape delay)

oh and Obama isn't letting the children see the Charlie Brown Christmas special tonight on ABC because of his speech


--I listened to aobut 20 seconds, that's all it took _--

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. No explanation necessary, Mike. Hannity still wants to fellate you after the show.

Business as usual.

[FarLeftRage]

2. Geez! That hammity is one ugly mofo...

and dumber than a box of rocks...

[gratuitous]

4. Has that look, dunnhe?

Like he's got a fart stuck sideways.

[icee2]

3. If Washington St. hadn't let the guy out, those cops would still...

be out there doing what all cops do.

Police: n. armed force for protection and participation.

[MadMaddie]

6. Yes that was a mistake

however; they were abiding by existing law. (which should be getting changed anytime now) but 2 Arkansa juries found the guy guilty of aggravated robbery, originally he was supposed to be tried in juvenile court but the judge at the time felt he was too dangerous and needed to be tried as an adult.

Huckabee released 1093 convicted felons against the wishes of Arkansas judges, law enforcement, prosecuting attorney's and victims advocates.

This is not an isolated Huckabee decision.

[MadMaddie]

5. Hucabee released 1093 covicted felons in Arkansas

according to a prosecutor in Arkansas.

The Prosecutor said that he and other law enforcement, judges and victims advocates protested their belief that the releases were bad. Huckabee ignored them. This is Huckabee's fault too bad Repugs don't take responsibility for anything.

[happyslug]

7. Yet 91% of those 1093 felons NEVER Committed another Crime

And to my knowledge, this is the only one who killed another person (Assuming he did it). So, as to murders he had a .1% error rate. Thus you were preferred that the 1092 people who DID not commit a Murder stayed in Jail? You also would preferred the over 900 people who NEVER committed another crime that forced then back into Jail, should have stayed in Jail?

I am sorry, you have to run some sort of Risk, either keeping people inside jail who will NEVER commit another crime that would send them back to jail OR releasing people who will commit such crimes. Which way do you want to err? I am sorry the Police Officers were killed, but lets remember the person Huckabee Pardoned had been convicted when he was 17 years of age and had served 10 years before Huckabee pardoned him. Subsequent to the Pardon the Alleged Murder violated his parole and served three years AFTER being released by the pardon (i.e. I suspect his sentence was reduced to parole, which he broke, which should have sent him back to jail to serve the rest of his time, but instead he served only three years and was released a second time, this time by the Parole Board).

A 91% success rate is something I would be proud of. That one or two of the people he pardoned committed a Murder is a concern but to blame Huckabee for a crime a person he pardoned almost a decade ago is ridiculous. A Governor MUST try to undo the harshness of the Criminal Justice System and that is done through the Pardon system. Most Governors do NOT grant enough pardons do to the fear that one out of a thousand will commit a headline crime. Most politicians would prefer to keep 1000 people who will NEVER commit another crime in Jail rather then run the risk that one of them may commit a headline news. We should be giving Huckabee praise for the people he released NOT criticized him when one goes bad almost a decade AFTER that person was pardoned AND after that person should have been sent back to jail for violating the terms of the pardon NOT released after three years for the Breach.

For more on the Alleged Murderer see:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/29/multiple-police-officers-_n_373119.html

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Huckabee is finished, as well as four officers just trying to make an honest living.

The gamble is too risky.

[cali]

9. bzzzt. wrong. Dumont and at least one other.

I suggest you read Conason's excellent Slate article about Hucky's pardons.

[happyslug]

12. You mean Consason's article in Salon???

Conason's Article in Salon:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/11/30/mike_huckabee/index.html

The author does NOT address the issue of the 91% of Pardons where the person did NOT go back to jail, but he does address them by the following statement in regards to Huckabee's pardon while Governor :

"During those years he granted more commutations and pardons than any governor during the previous four decades, many of them surely justified as a response to excessive penalties under the state's draconian narcotics laws"

The author then goes out and finds two other cases where the pardoned person committed further crimes. One was the case of Wayne DuMond, who had served 15 years of a 20 years sentence and was then released on Probation i.e. if he violated his probation he should have gone back to jail, just like what should have happened in the case of the Murder of the Four Police officers. That DuMond sentence was reduced to probation not just released is ignored by the Author.

For more on Wayne DuMond
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_DuMond
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-huckabee8dec08,1,1727258.story

Yes, Rape is a serious crime and should be punished severely, but do we want the Punishment for Rape to be so severe that Murder of the Victim is just a small increase in sentence? (i.e. the US Supreme Court used the fact that most Jurisdiction do NOT treat Rape the same as Murder to rule that Death Sentence for Rape were Unconstitutional but the reason most Jurisdiction did NOT treat Rape as serious as Murder was that most Jurisdiction fear that if there is no difference in punishment, Rapists would just kill their victims for the punishment would be the same if the victim survived or not. Most Jurisdictions wanted to give rapists an incentive NOT to kill their victims, thus Murder has a higher level of punishment then Rape).

I bring this up for the DuMond case was of a Rapists that had served most of his sentence and all Huckabee did was advance the start of his probationary period. I am sorry, Rapists will sooner or later be let back into the General Population, hopefully on some sort of probation (as was DuMond). Huckabee's fault as to DuMond was to advance that date, subject to a longer probation period. You may disagree with that, but you have to accept that fact you also would have kept the 91% of the people released by Huckabee in Jail when they NEVER committed another crime for which they went back to Jail.

[MadMaddie]

10. Then what is the point of a jury of our peers so a verdict can

simply be undone by a Governer?

White collar criminals serve more time for committing crimes then this guy and others.

Why should you and I follow the rules? These guys and gals break the law, they know they are breaking the law and they don't care. They get sentenced and they should serve their time they get.

There are cases where cases have been commuted because the evidence was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have the wrong person.

Yes, there are still inequalities in the justice system no doubt about it.

Huckabee defied prosecutors time after time.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_23_04/huckabee.html

More cases where Huckabee released felons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3096850

Ultimately he was the governer and it's time to man up and take responsibility for his decision. This man has the gall to claim he wants to be president...are you kidding me?

[gopiscrap]

11. I don't give a shit if it is fair Huck or not

if we can use it to smear a repuke let's go for it...capitalize on what ever is available and if that means politically walking over the dead bodies of a few cops..so be it...it's the win that counts otherwise the Democratic Party can't get it's goals into law with out the win!

[CatWoman]

13. ...

:hi: