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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:22 PM
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“Jesus died and rose and lives for you. What did Allah do.”
I am surrounded by fucking idiots....

"My invisible friend is better than yours!! nana nana nana!!"

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TERRE HAUTE — A sign at a Terre Haute church bearing a message that many people would deem “intolerant” has raised an objection from a concerned teenager who could not let the message go unchallenged.

Saagarika Coleman submitted a letter to the editor of the Tribune-Star (see page A8) stating that she was “hit with a wave of shock. I was horrified” when she saw the sign at Bible Baptist Church as her father drove her to school Monday morning.

The sign stated, “Jesus died and rose and lives for you. What did Allah do.”

To Coleman and others, the message seems to challenge or belittle the Muslim faith. At best, such sentiments strike some people as an un-Christian approach to tolerance of other beliefs.

“I just think God’s love is wider and deeper than that,” said Sister Denise Wilkinson, general superior of the Sisters of Providence, when asked for comment about the sign’s message.

more: http://www.tribstar.com/news/local_story_322230826.html
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:23 PM
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1. EARTH TO MORON CHRISTIANS: ALLAH = GOD.
HE IS THE GOD OF ISLAM. YOU FUCKING MORONS. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:24 PM
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3. A better term would be the god of Abraham
that all three desert religions claim to follow. "Allah" is just the translation of the word "god" into Arabic.

The true meaning of that church sign is "The Preacher is a Moron."
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:28 PM
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6. That's what I meant...I guess it got lost in translation.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:32 PM
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7. Not only that, but there really isn't any difference between
Muslims and Mormons, faith wise.

Both believe in "Jehovah/God/Allah" and both believe in the Old Testament and in parts of the New Testament. Both believe in Jesus as a prophet. Both believe in a later and greater prophet, Mohammad for the Muslims, Smith for the Mormons.

I know, it's simplistic, but I'm not here to start a theology thread, just pointing out some similarities.

I bet most Christians don't know that Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet.


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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:18 PM
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15. I think that most Christians do know that Islams think Jesus was a prophet.
They just don't consider him the Messiah. I am sure some Christians don't know that, but I think it is more common knowledge than you think.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:41 PM
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20. No, "Allah" means "God"
Arabic speaking Christians call their Christian god Allah and Jesus Issa.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:23 PM
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2. Allah knew how to punctuate a question?
:shrug:

NGU.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:25 PM
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4. Allah didn't need to torture his own son to death,
ignoring his screams of pain and suffering on the cross, to get millions of people to follow his teachings. That's pretty powerful right there.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:26 PM
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5. The idea that some people don't get that Allah is Jesus's daddy makes my head hurt.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:35 PM
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8. Hey, a lot of "Christians" still hate Jews...
...despite the fact that their god was Jewish. If they can't get their heads around that concept, what chance does Allah also being the big bearded one have?
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:16 PM
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14. There does seem to be a condescending undertone even among
Even among Christians who befriend Jews because they share the same God and some of the books from the Old Testament there seems to be a condescending attitude towards the Jews. They befriend them but they seem to know that at the end of times that the Jews will admit they were wrong and say that Jesus is Lord.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:40 PM
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28. Yet they have to pay rent to Santa and work in a cramped office with the Easter Bunny.
Good thing they get that extra income from the unicorn farm.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:38 PM
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9. tons of fertility gods back then
but you cannot teach these people about mythology.

besides, the original version of allah was a female.

and jesus was one of a whole bunch of fertility symbols.


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:48 PM
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10. does that mean that jesus was a zombie?
he died for your sins, now he is risen- and he's hungry...for your SOUL!

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:53 PM
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11. Something you might find in the Quran..... or other places you
have travelled.


http://aaiil.org/truestories/eidsacrifice.shtml



True Stories from the Life of the Prophet Abraham:
Eid of Sacrifice (Eid-al-Adha):
by Sher Muhammad Akhtar


"O my father! Do what thou art commanded; if God please, thou wilt find me of the patient ones" -- (The Quran: 37:102).

Hundreds of years ago the father of Prophets – Abraham – had a vision that he was sacrificing his son. And in order to carry out the command of Allah he sacrificed a herd of camels and distributed the flesh amongst the poor.

The next night he again had the same dream and believing it to be a true one, as all his dreams were, he thought that Allah wanted more sacrifice from him. Early in the morning he sacrificed more camels.

The third night he again saw himself sacrificing his own son. He did not sacrifice camels this time, but he called for his son, Ishmael, and said,

"O my son! I have seen thee being sacrificed in a dream; what sayest thou?" -- (The Quran: 37:102).

The son knew that his father was a prophet of Allah, so without any demur or hesitation he replied,

"O my father! Do what thou art commanded; if God please, thou wilt find me of the patient ones" -- (The Quran: 37:102).

Not only the Patriarch's son, but also his wife well knew that her husband was a man of character and an apostle of Allah. She received the news very cheerfully. All the three were making every thing ready to do what they were commanded to.

The mother took her only son and gave him a bath and new clothes to wear. The father was sharpening his knife, so as to enable his son's throat to be cut easily. The boy was happy and ready to go with his father to the altar. When they were leaving the house, the mother gave a farewell kiss on the forehead of the boy and thus did she show her submission to the commandment of Allah.

Father and son were going to the altar when on the way, Satan tried to dissuade the young man from going to the place of sacrifice, but he turned a deaf ear to his protestation.

Satan then turned to influence the mother saying that her husband was mad, who was going to sacrifice his son to effect a mere dream. She too did what her son had done.

At the Altar the son threw himself prostrate before his illustrious father, who blindfolded as he was, lest his parental love should come in the way, applied the knife to his son's throat. An exemplary conduct of complete submission to the will of Allah; sacrificing his only son in His way! The soul of Abraham within himself was praising the Lord, saying: "My prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death are all for God, the Lord of the worlds".

Angels stood metamorphosed, as it were, into lifeless pictures and overcome by extreme anxiety. "God is great; God is great; God is great; God is great; There is no Allah, but He. And God is great; All praise for God."

Abraham was about to cut the throat of his only son. But lo! He heard a voice from Above:

"O Abraham! Thou hast indeed shown the truth of the Vision; thus We reward the doers of good. Surely this is a manifest trial" -- (The Quran: 37:104-106).

The Patriarch laid down the knife and there was rejoicing mingled with thanksgiving that God had accepted the Sacrifice. It dawned on him what his Vision really meant – viz., that what God wanted was not the blood of his son but the sacrifice of that highest of love which a father has for his son and vice-versa. It was the sacrifice of personal passion that was acceptable to God and that was done both by the father and the son. The father and son fell down in prayer praising their Lord.

And to mark this great act of self-sacrifice at the call of Allah a ram was sacrificed. This was the first Eid of Sacrifice (Eid-al-Adha), and in commemoration all Muslims celebrate it every year.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:02 PM
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24. And there you go
they all needed prozac, and some sort of intervention. But God be praised. Isn't that the most disgusting revelation of what uneducated people of that era believed.

Think about it, sick sick sick.

And there have always been charismatic weirdos directing even more sick weirdos into the most ghastly inhumane actions you can imagine, all in the name of their delusions.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:56 PM
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12. Next up:
Unicorn fights

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:20 PM
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16. NO WAY!!!
Narhwals have taken over the unicorns!! :P
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:45 PM
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23. The narwals are invisible like ninjas now.
You can't see 'em, but they're plotting to attack the unicorns. :D
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 02:15 PM
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13. While there is some controversy over if Jesus died a virgin, but we do know that Mo liked them young
And yes I know just how inflammatory a statement that is.

DU suffers from a binary mindset found in many liberal groups...lumping all religion together and treating them equally. Its a dumb thing to do. Some of the major religions pose a much great danger to life, liberty, civil rights, and progress than others *today*. Not to recognize that and deal with things appropriately is a dangerous intentional blindness.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:15 PM
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26. Mo married and fucked an 8yo girl.
:puke:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:26 PM
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32. yeah, more like she was 8 going on 11, your honor...
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 10:27 PM by dysfunctional press
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:13 PM
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30. Do tell
How exactly is Islam more dangerous than Christianity? Or are you talking about individual sects within each religion? Or are you talking about individuals within the individual sects within each religion?

To say that Islam is inherently more dangerous than Christianity is ignorant of the past and present of what has been done in the name of and in the defense of each religion.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:23 PM
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17. My dad uses that line on me
Every time I compare Jesus's teachings of forgiveness, compassion, peace, and love to the teachings of Buddha my dad says yeah but Jesus offers eternal life, Buddha doesn't. He's my dad and we've gotten in pretty heated discussions over this in the past. He also lives with me so when we get in heated discussion it can lead to an uncomfortableness and tension in the house. So now when he says something like that I don't respond at all. He is not going to convert me. He's not going to change my beliefs. I know who I am and am comfortable with my beliefs. So, why create a bunch of tension by responding when it's just not neccessary.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:42 PM
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21. That's the thing. I will convey why I believe what I do, but I never
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 08:44 PM by Shell Beau
try to tell someone they are wrong for their beliefs. We all believe what we do for whatever reasons. There are some things that will never ever be agreed on. You just have to agree to disagree, and as long as people are respectful of that, there is no need to go any further. Of course I do know that many people aren't respectful of that. I just hate it when people ridicule you for your beliefs or mock them. It happens a lot. It happens here on DU a lot.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:24 PM
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18. He made Jesus. If there *is* only One True God then Allah is Jesus' Dad, duh!
:dunce:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:37 PM
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19. As a matter of fact, Allah cut out a coupon for ...
saving money on the purchase of Shake 'n Bake, and out of the goodness of his heart he donated the coupon to a Christian Church. I would expect true Christians to display more gratitude.

Actually, I'm not completely sure that it was Allah. It might have been Homer Simpson.
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kixat2550 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:43 PM
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22. Ignorant morons they are
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:12 PM
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25. Dumb Morons. "Allah" is the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians call God "Allah".
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 09:18 PM by Odin2005
it is cognate to Ancient Hebrew "Elloh", which also means "God", from which Modern Hebrew get's it's modern euphemism for Yahweh, "Elohim".
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:18 PM
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27. Allah comes in and does my floors once a week. Jesus is too busy being dead. n/t
or something


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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:58 PM
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29. Cuz Jesus ain't no allah-back girl?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:23 PM
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31. Yeah I hate it when dead people don't rise for me it's so rude
Being dead is no excuse for not rising for me & my sins!!

Honestly -- I was born and raised a Christian but NONE of that ever made a lick of sense to me it's like what? I'm in trouble because some lady at a piece of fruit thousands of years ago that a snake told her to eat and now I needed somebody tortured and killed to save me from the fruit sin?

I'm sorry but it's all so nutty to me!!
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