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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:15 PM
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Man faces jail for spitting in Cop's Food.
Cook Who Spit in Cop's Burger May Go to Jail

Undoubtedly we've all had that lingering fear at least once in our lives that the cook was in the back doing something horrible to the food we ordered. But what happens when those people get caught? Apparently, they can end up in jail -- at least when the victim is a man of the badge.

Texan Jaime Perez, in his capacity as a cook, had at some point run afoul of the local police chief. When police were called to the restaurant for another matter entirely (Perez had gotten into a fight with a woman), the cook took it upon himself to admit that he'd done something to the chief's burger.

"I did it," Perez said on the recording. "That ain't no lie."

Apparently, he wiped his butt on the bun, put the vegetables in his mouth and spit on the meat. Mmm ... down home cooking.

A witness to Perez's mouthing off about his crime told the chief, who came back to the restaurant and ordered another burger which he then sent to a lab for DNA testing. The tests showed nothing, but the fact that Perez admitted it on tape was enough to get him sent to trial, where he could face up to 10 years in prison for harassment of a public servant.

Link:

http://www.asylum.com/2009/11/18/jaime-perez-cook-who-spit-in-cops-burger-may-go-to-jail/?icid=main
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:16 PM
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1. Think I'll fix something here at home for dinner. n/t
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:20 PM
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3. I remember one evening
my husband and I went to a drive thru- I was driving, so it was me who had ordered. They had forgotten something, I was annoyed, waited at the window to catch the attention of the worker. Hubby told me, "be nice, they may spit in our food."

It does go through the back of your mind everytime you go to a fast food window.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:59 PM
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85. rofl
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:18 PM
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2. Unavailable for comment:

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:26 PM
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9. That was my first thought too *meow*
:P
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:35 PM
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14. I don't want a large Farva! I want a god damn litre of cola!!!!
:rofl:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:20 PM
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4. Super Troopers anyone?
Burger Employee: Double bacon cheeseburger, it's for a cop...
Farva: Are you gonna spit in it now?
Burger Employee: Dont spit in that cop's burger...

:rofl:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:21 PM
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6. lol
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:32 PM
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12. Oh yeah
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:20 PM
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5. Perez isn't too bright is he?
What he think was going to happen after he spilled the beans?
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:21 PM
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7. 10 years in prison? Only in America...
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:27 PM
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10. 10 years is excessive, no doubt. But this is so nasty.
So nasty. And could be a health issue. :puke:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:30 PM
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11. And how many pigs bully/injure/kill innocent people & receive paid time off?
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:46 PM
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18. Not seeing the comparison here.
It is wrong to do that to anyone's food. I don't care if it is a cop or not. And who is to say this particular cop did anything wrong. I don't buy into the hate all cops mentality I see here. Sorry.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:50 PM
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21. 10 yrs for this is Institutional Revenge, as where numerous cops abuse - and worse - all the time...
... and walk away unscathed...or at worse, a vacation w/pay.

See, I don't "hate" cops, b/c I frankly don't give that much of a shit about them. But I grew up in subcultures that cops specifically target to harass - musicians, artistic types, drug culture, etc...so no, I'm no friend of cop attitude and cop logic.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:53 PM
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23. I said I thought 10 years was excessive.
But he should be punished.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #21
91. Here's a tip, don't do drugs.
Then I'd imagine the hassling will go way down.

"Drug culture" :eyes:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:59 PM
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105. Only on DU.
I agree.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:30 PM
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109. It's not only people who do drugs who are harassed by the police.
What are you going to tell young black men? Stop being young, black, and male?
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:06 PM
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112. Are all young black men harrassed by the police?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:16 PM
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113. Are you saying they're not? n/t
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:21 PM
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114. I am saying that not all young black men are harrassed.
Yes, that is what I am saying. Am I saying there isn't a problem in some communities where they are harrassed because of their color? No, I am not saying that at all. There are crappy cops out there that do target young and old black men.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 02:12 AM
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119. Well not every person who is perceived to be involved in the "drug culture" is actually a drug user.
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 02:14 AM by Raineyb
but that didn't seem to stop the person who replied from making an asinine comment about "don't do drugs" did it?

And every black man in this country has been or will be a target of the police it makes no difference how old he is or how he is dressed. THAT you can bank on.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #113
117. I am.
Until proven otherwise, all young, black males don't share the same experiences.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #117
120. Well you're not too bright. So I'm not all that surprised.
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 02:19 AM by Raineyb
:shrug:

That said, if you're trying to say that black men in this country are not more likely to be targeted by the police then not only are you not too bright but you have your head up your ass.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 02:43 AM
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122. Wow, being rude really helps you make your point!
You must be such a smart person. How many other people did you tell "You have your head up your ass" today?

I never said that they weren't more likely, just that all of the young, black males haven't or will be targeted by the police. We're talking about a group of millions. It's silly to say that they all have or will share the same experiences. Why, I would even say that it is even stereotypical to think that.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:02 PM
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69. Maybe if cops weren't given carte blanche to rape, murder, and pillage
and then given "paid time off pending investigation" when they actually get caught abusing one of us proles, there wouldn't be such a "hate all cops mentality."
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:34 PM
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74. Whatever. I tend to not group people together based on
others actions. But that is just me.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:17 AM
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98. i'm not a fan of cops but it's ridiculous to stereotype them as rapists murderers, and pillagers.
what are they, fucking pirates?
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #98
118. AAAAAAAAAArrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrr we are
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:51 PM
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22. Right. I'm sure that in Iran the penalty would be much lighter
if a cook wiped his butt on a kebab that he was preparing for a member of the local Sharia-law enforcement.

Actually, given that they cut off thieves' hands, the cook's buttocks would probably be amputated.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:54 PM
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25. I think it's about right - Handling other peoples' food is a sacred trust
If we can't trust licensed food handlers, we're in deep, deep shit.

Fuck the piece of shit. I hope he dies in prison from food poisoning.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:25 PM
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8. I'm no fan of cops, but this is gross. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:34 PM
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13. When a cook purposely contaminates food for a customer it should be a felony.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:41 PM
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17. I'm sure the lawyers could find ample wriggle room re what actually constitutes "contamination"
... in this case
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:47 PM
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19. If he wiped the bun on his ass, that is contaminating it.
Gross. Gross. Gross. Maybe you'd like a butt-sweaty shitty sandwich. I bet you would think it was contaminated if it was yours.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:58 PM
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28. Absolutely! I'm not suggesting otherwise - but had this guy done this to anyone but a cop...
... he wouldn't be facing up to ten yrs
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:16 PM
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40. I think you're right.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #28
44. odds are, he has.
the people who 'prepare' the food in fast food places aren't exactly highly paid and highly skilled.
the brain trust in the op is a prime example.

now suppose that he, or someone in his position is a racist homophobe, as well as a cop-hater.
do you think that he'd only contaminated food the one time that he's caught?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:05 PM
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53. True. Just the same as the cop who gets caught abusing someone, he/she has likely done it before
... and, being predatory opportunists, will get their jollies off again sooner or later.

However, many moons ago, my wife was breakfast manager at a McDonald's, and tried to run a very tidy ship...despite the (at least) weekly bad experience of encountering some smug doucher who would throw food at her, or other employees. Those folks have a shit job and get treated horribly by yuppie fuckwits who feel entitled to have poor people in service jobs smooch their fat asses. Now, me, I never worked fast food cause, as my wife says, it would've ended in five min, and would include immediate termination, jail, hospital, lawsuits...haha
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #28
99. ten years is ridiculous but messing with people food is a serious issue.
a year or so ago these two kids at a thruway reststop burger king sprayed oven cleaner on a trooper's burger, the guy got really sick. they were both arrested, as they should be, but they didn't get anything like 10 years.

it kinda reminds me of, remember a few years back some repuke senator\governor was riding on a fire truck during some parade, and got hit with a water balloon... they guy who threw it was charged with felony assault.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #19
106. Shell. That is the funniest thing you have ever posted.
I'm dying over here.

:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #106
108. LOL!!!
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 06:38 PM by Shell Beau
Glad I could give you a giggle! ;) And wasn't this a fun thread???? :evilgrin:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:53 PM
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24. There are already people in prison for this crime.
The proof is pretty easy where there is a confession.

There is a case in Texas where a police officer saw a fast food worker laughing and pointing outside to the police car. Suspicious, he looked inside his coke and found a glob of spit. He saved it as evidence, and it was DNA tested against the guy laughing inside the Sonic.

They arrested him, convicted him, and he is serving time in a Texas prison for it now.

The guy that confessed will likely be convicted, and will do time. It's a battery, and against a police officer, it's a higher level crime. He could get five years for this.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:03 PM
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32. The peculiar aspect of this is how it's apparently not an uncommon form of revenge against cops
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:14 PM
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39. It's been popularized in comedies, and that has likely helped spread it.
Given our knowledge of how disease is transmitted, and how many bad things one could get from such an exposure (e coli, for example), we have to take it seriously.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:16 PM
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41. Auh, like the ever popular Man/Boy Gets Hit In The Nuts = FUNNY bit in movies and TV
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:51 PM
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81. Could you imagine another inmate approaching that guy, asking him what
he was in for? I'm in for a double-murder...how about you?

"Uhh...I spit in a coke that a cop ordered"

:rofl:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:50 PM
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51. Maybe if they could show spit, feces, blood, bugs or chemicals are in the recipe?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:55 PM
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52. ...ha, yeah, or technically prove the guy actually did as he claimed, I guess
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dhcave Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #13
67. A felony is a life sentence
and in my opinion pretty much creates career criminals due to their lack of other options.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #67
75. No, a felony is not a life sentence. It's a felony.
If your object is to blend in quietly, you're not there yet.
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dhcave Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #75
111. It's a life sentence because
Try getting a decent job, or renting an apartment with a felony.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:38 PM
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15. I wonder who pays for the lab testing?
"sent to a lab for DNA testing"


That's right...the tax payers do...
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #15
27. So what's your point?
Isn't it a good thing that food preparers know that they shouldn't wipe their butts on your food, because they might get caught through DNA testing?

If DNA testing never took place in cases like this because of the expense, this kind of stuff would happen more often.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #15
30. And don't the tax payers pay for rape kits, dui tests, etc? Taxpayers
pay for a lot of stuff. What is your beef with this test?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:39 PM
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16. I don't like cops, but that is unacceptable behavior
especially with the flu going around.

10 years in jail seems a bit much, though.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:47 PM
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20. What's with all the hatred of cops on DU?
"I don't like cops"

"I'm no fan of cops"

and someone referring to cops as "Pigs"

all in this thread. Perhaps these people have been angry at all cops ever since they got a speeding ticket? In any case, I'm sure they would swallow their cop-hating principles and call 911 if they became victims of a crime.

And the guy who wiped his butt on the burger deserves 10 years. That was disgusting.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Most of the libs/lefties & progressives I know have had bad experiences w/cops
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. Interesting.
I've never had a bad experience with a cop, but I generally obey the law and treat the police respectfully. I did get a speeding ticket once (which I deserved) and the cop never asked me if I was a lib/leftie or progressive.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:08 PM
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37. Must be an appearance thing. The libs I know, myself included, are dirt poor & like loud music & pot
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #37
80. Those aren't lefties,
they're dirtheads.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #80
94. +1000
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
65. most of the cops I know are libs/lefties and progressives themselves
But as bigotry goes, people will tend to use their own personal experiences to degenerate an entire group of people as if the meager number personally encountered can possibly represent the entire group. Exactly what you're doing.



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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. Yep...unapologetically biased against cops. Don't like it? Too. Fucking. Bad
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:38 PM
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76. It is wonderful to be biased against a group of people
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:39 PM by Shell Beau
because of the actions of some. :eyes:

Personally, I don't care if you hate cops or not. You'd be in the majority here. I happen to be related to one of the best people in the world who is in law enforcement. I'd trust him with my life and even your life, and I don't know you. My brother was a cop and is now a state trooper. There isn't enough money in the world to make me have that job. You see the worst of the worst things on a daily basis. Dead bodies, abusive people, etc., etc., etc. But I am sure they are all terrible people who are out to piss regular people off. Of course, there is always another side. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #76
95. Studies reveal a high degree of authoritarian characteristics among police officers & career militar
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 07:53 AM by Echo In Light
That being, placing great value on hierarchical control constructs.

So, no, it's not as though the people who are, per their experiences, distrustful of law enforcement officers, are simply reaching, or painting w/a 'broad brush' re their perceptions.

Besides, when it comes to defending authority figures, it's almost always done by those who have family members, or friends, who hold such positions who can dutifully be counted upon to insist the rest of us somehow have it all wrong on the matter. You know a good one, your brother, and that's all good and well. I, too, have had 'fair' encounters w/cops who, going by how they handled things, weren't the frothing, itchy fingered, hippie hating sadists that, say, Hunter Thompson, describes in his material.

In a rural county not far from here, where I'd been busted for possession many, many yrs ago, my band, back in the 90s, ended up throwing massive druggie/heavy metal parties on this farm that belonged to the bassist's girlfriend's parents, and local bands from around the upper midwest would caravan in ...and as uber redneck as the law was in that neck o the woods, they told us they wouldn't bother us at all (nevermind that most times they were outnumbered by well over a hundred) that they wouldn't disrupt things provided they didn't see anyone leave the premises. And you know...from what I recall they drove by on occasion, people smoking grass, tents and fold-down campers everywhere w/people dosed outta their minds on blotter acid, yet they didn't do a thing.

Now, there's a good example...although I've had some that, re the overall tone of the situation, were the exact opposite, too. So....
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #95
100. There are a lot of cops or people in authority positions that abuse the power.
There is no question about that. But I do have experience with many cops from many cities around here, and I know they aren't all like that. So I do defend the good ones because they get lam-blasted here. People don't always remember what these cops go through on a day to day basis. I imagine if I saw mangled up bodies in car wrecks, had to tell the families their loved one was dead, saw domestic abuse victims, rape victims, murderers, scum of the earth people on a day to day basis, I would be hardened. That is why the divorce rate for cops is so high. There is never an excuse for shitty cops abusing people, but don't lump all of them together because it isn't fair to the ones who try to do the right thing and risk their lives doing it. Look at the cops that ran into the burning buildings on 9-11. They risked their lives and died trying to help people. It is their job. Many don't expect to be labeled as heroes because it is their job to protect and to serve. It is a shame that the bad ones ruin it for the good ones.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #100
101. That's cool. Fine by me. It's just I've never ran in circles w/those who know and/or hang out w/cops
... nor care to :bounce:

We'll have to agree to disagree to an extent, I s'pose
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:39 AM
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102. Cool!
:hi:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #29
103. I don't know one.
Personally, that is. Maybe your friends are all criminals?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:02 PM
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:04 PM
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35. Yep. Remove the guns, and the power of state, and what remains?
Exactly
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. So now "lower middle class" is synonymous with "redneck"?
The generalizations in this thread are beyond belief.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:08 PM
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38. No, he's making a finer point than that
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #20
49. I'm sure it has nothing at all with the behavior of some cops.
Nothing at all.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
64. You're JUST noticing this?
Man, where have you been? Very blatant outspoken foul police bigotry has been overwhelming on DU forever. This thread is tame compared to MANY others. For some unknown reason it's the most prevelent most over the top bigotry allowed here despite the rules. I've long since given up alerting on cop bigotry posts since nothing is ever done about even the worst of them.

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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. It was especially noticeable in this thread
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 05:43 PM by Nye Bevan
because the anti-cop bigotry was primarily in the subject lines, so it jumped out at me ("don't like cops", "no fan of cops", "pigs", "rednecks" etc. all in the subject lines as opposed to the bodies of the posts). I guess these people are this blatant in their hatred since they are comfortable that the moderators will be fine with this kind of bigotry (as you point out).

I'll try alerting on Post 31 ("most cops are rednecks"). If it's not deleted then this certainly confirms the mods' tolerance of cop-hatred.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:00 PM
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68. Bigotry? Really?


People who compare actual bigotry, as in irrational hatred of minorities, GLBT people, or other marginalized groups, an irrational hatred that actual has real-life consequences to those being hated, to the occasional dislike of an institution who's shit society has evidently decided doesn't stink crack me up.

There's only two kinds of cops: bad cops, and the ones who look the other way.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:42 PM
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73. And both types have their fair share of wanna-be's and groupies
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:46 PM
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77. Your last statement is beyond false.
My brother had to take down a friend of his (another cop) because he was stealing from the crime scenes. They don't all look the other way. That is bullshit. Some do I am sure. Many do I am sure, but don't say all do because that is bullshit. My brother was tormented when he had to do it, but the guy was abusing his postion and stealing. He was doing exactly what he sought out to protect. No way are you right. Sorry. Try again. And my brother was put in the position to do it because the force wasn't going to have it. He didn't just rat on his friend. He had no idea he was doing it. He had to be undercover about it. He felt like a rat. He was in a sense, but he didn't turn his head the other way. And I know he isn't the only one.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #77
89. "He felt like a rat."
And yet the cop apologists bitch about the whole "stop snitching" thing. Unbelievable...

Your brother was tormented because someone who is given the power of life and death over us proles was abusing his position? Sounds like your brother has some pretty screwed up priorities.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #89
97. My brother doesn't have screwed up priorities. He did the right thing.
It is human nature to feel bad for turning a friend in no matter what the job is. So fuck you. I don't take lightly anyone talking bad about my family. My brother would save your sorry ass if you were in trouble. So fuck off.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #66
110. The word bigotry is best left to describing hatred of people due to circumstances that one does not
control such as gender, religion, race.

For a profession? It trivializes actual bigotry. All this cloth rendering because of hatred toward those who enforce the power structure is unnecessary at best.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #110
116. People don't "control" their religion?
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 09:37 PM by Nye Bevan
If you're a Catholic or a Christian fundie, it's simply because you have no choice in the matter?

I guess you have to pretend that this is the case. Otherwise, by your definition, religious bigotry would not be bigotry.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 02:17 AM
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121. Most people don't choose their religion they end up the same religion their
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 02:18 AM by Raineyb
parents indoctrinated them into.

And when one religion uses its majority status to oppress another religion bigotry certainly can be used there.

That's hardly the same as choosing and training for a profession and the profession one chooses certainly isn't on par with race or gender.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:55 PM
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26. he won't get 10 years but he deservably should get some jail time.
Who knows what he's done to food for other people who get on his nerves.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:24 PM
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42. pretty much everyone who eats fast food regularly has probably had 'contaminated' food...
at least once in their lives. not saying that it's right...only that bored, mischievous, and/or angry teenagers can come up with all sorts of things.

and if you ever send food back...or complain about something and then return to the same restaurant- you're just tempting fate.

bon apetit.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:27 PM
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43. That's disgusting but 10 years seems excessive
stories like this are one of the biggest reasons I avoid eating out.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:30 PM
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45. He won't get the max. nt
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:35 PM
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46. 10 years is too much,
and he won't get that, I'm sure, but he ought to see the inside of a jail for that. And he darn sure ought to be tested for every possible disease that can be communicated via blood, feces and saliva. Nasty. I have little sympathy for that jerk.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #46
54. I agree
It is too much, seriously doubt he will serve that long.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:42 PM
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47. seems odd that the charge would be "harassment of a public servant"
you would think aggravated assault would carry a stiffer sentence.

10 years for "harassment of a public servant" is ridiculous regardless of the circumstances and stinks of revenge.

10 years for aggravated assault (which is what this is -- intentional infliction of physical harm to a protected public servant) is not unreasonable at all as far as the charge goes, though i would rather doubt he would get the maximum sentence in this particular case, unless the officer actually contracted a serious illness from the contamination.

come to think of it, maybe they charged him with "harassment" because he TOLD the police he did it. that is, the crime wasn't the actual contamination, which they probably can't prove, but telling the officer that he did it, which caused emotional distress.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:46 PM
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48. Over 30 years in the hospitality business
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 03:46 PM by era veteran
I have never seen this done. I have heard a lot of idle threats and jokes about that kind of thing but it is not done. Of course, I work in restaurants not stores, which is what fast food places are called. Independent places are probably your best restaurant choice for many reasons. I would 'go off' if I ever caught an cook/chef doing this. I don't like cops either.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #48
59. It is, IMO, an urban myth made real by an idiot.
When it winds up on the big screen - the clip in the previews for 'Waiting' put me off seeing that movie, and the same audience saw the bit in 'Super Troopers' - it takes a life of its own, but with 20 years in the industry working everything from fast food to 5 star restaurants, I never saw it (though it heard it threatened a couple times).
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. Exactly
The trailer for 'Waiting" pissed me off.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #59
88. i've seen it.
it isn't a myth.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:49 PM
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50. IF they spit my my food - prison sounds good
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:34 PM
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55. 10 years for a stupid prank? Shows how much the pigs SUCK.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:39 PM
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56. When someone else is potentially exposed to disease,
I respectfully submit that "prank" is not the appropriate word. A prank is when you toilet paper someone's yard.

Feces, saliva and quite possibly blood were apparently introduced into that cop's food. That's dangerous.

Plus, the guy will likely never get 10 years.

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:42 PM
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57. No way. Wiping your ass with someone's food is no prank.
It is a huge health issue. And the whole I hate cop mentality gets so old. They all deserve what they get. Blah blah blah

:eyes:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:57 PM
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104. +1 Shell. It's fuckin' juvenile.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:43 PM
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58. I'll just wipe my ass with part of your food and see if you like it. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. HIV, hepititis, flu (H1N1 and/or seasonal), tuberculosis --
some prank.

Let's see you laugh it off when some strange walks up and spits in your mouth.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:13 PM
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61. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished.
But firing a fine, and maybe some probation and/or community service would be appropriate.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:50 PM
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79. What if he had some disease that was transferred?
This is so gross. You have to have some sort of trust in the people who make your food in restaurants. Spitting is bad enough, but to wipe your ass with one's food.... If it were my food, there wouldn't be a fine big enough.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #79
86. I never said he should not be punished, though.
I was just shocked at the 10 years thing.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. 10 years is too long. But a little jail time is ok by me.
There are murderers who do less than 10 years. No way should he go that long. A few months would seem right.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:18 PM
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63. WTF???
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #55
82. You OK?
Honestly, that's not an Odin2005 post.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:58 PM
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83. I'm fine.
:shrug:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #83
84. Usually you're more measured than that.
My bad.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:53 AM
Response to Reply #55
92. Much be nice to judge an entire group people.
Like all those retards with Asperger Syndrome. God, they SUCK.

Not to fun, huh?
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:03 PM
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70. Lulz.
"A witness to Perez's mouthing off about his crime told the chief, who came back to the restaurant and ordered another burger which he then sent to a lab for DNA testing. The tests showed nothing, but the fact that Perez admitted it on tape was enough to get him sent to trial, where he could face up to 10 years in prison for harassment of a public servant."

That chief sounds like a complete tool.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #70
78. Why does he sound like a tool? I wonder what your un-tool self would
have done if someone wiped their ass with your food. It would be hilarious.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #78
90. Yeah, but the difference is I wouldn't have a lab at my disposal to test for fucking DNA.
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 10:52 PM by superduperfarleft
That same tool of a cop would probably be pissed off I interrupted his donut break if I called him about the same thing happening to me.

Here's a tip for cops: don't abuse people and don't cover up for your shitty colleagues who abuse people, and people won't wipe their ass with your food.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:56 AM
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93. "don't abuse people and don't cover up for your shitty colleagues who abuse people"
Yeah, because all cops do that.

Just like how all lawyers are crooks.

Or how all unions are mobbed up.

Or how all priests are pedophiles.

Or how all doctors are HMO-fucks.

Or how all woman are sluts.

Or how all men just care about sex.

Or how all blacks steal.

Or how all mexicans are lazy.

Or how all asians are good at math.

Your logic makes soooo much sense.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:48 PM
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107. +1
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #90
96. You really don't need to lump all people into any kind of category.
Some cops suck. Some don't. The end.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:40 PM
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72. Cop ate a skidmark burger...
.. I'll bet he's pissed!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 07:22 PM
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115. DearAbby is really her sister Ann Landers
Look it up.
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