Some Fear Bush Administration Could Become Target in 9/11 Trial

[Roon]

Some critics say a civilian trial -- instead of a military tribunal -- for self-proclaimed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his accomplices could end up targeting the Bush administration and its anti-terror policies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/14/view-pending-trial-attempt-prosecute-bush-administration/

[Atticus]

1. As much as I'd like to see Bush's ass in a sling,

a "Some critics say" quote in an article from Faux News doesn't get me too excited.

Would that it were so.

[merh]

2. you posted exactly what I was thinking.

[saigon68]

10. Be interesting to see how they rule on 187 waterboarded "confessions" ?

"Rule of Law" my ass.

[merh]

18. I would venture to guess they won't use any of the tortured

evidence.

They may try to use something just to get a court to rule that torture is illegal and the bush admin memos authorizing the torture illegal, thus giving them a legal justification to go after those who authorized torture as well as public sentiment supportive of the prosecution of those who tortured and authorized torture.

[SpiralHawk]

14. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)

[Amonester]

3. Looks like that traitor, rove, is "browning" in his underwear!

Ridge too.

After all they've done... I so wish!

BUT... (me Doubts it will). :(

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Some critics? Yeah, I'll bet.....

Probably the "critics" who wrote about their need for a "catalyzing event, such as a new Pearl Harbor" back in 2000, and then one just happened to fall in their lap the next year.

[villager]

5. Nothing's supposed to come to trial for the BFEE: Oswald was shot, Sirhan pleaded out, etc.

Trials are for rubes, or maybe show, at best. But they aren't supposed to happen if they will impinge on any narrative not pre-approved by the elite.

[BlueMTexpat]

6. Given the proof that is now available concerning NORAD records

for 9-11 being changed expressly to follow the Cheney narrative, I'd say that this "fear" is all too warranted.
And I love it.
May it come to pass ... and may the treasonous war criminals and torturers finally be brought to account.
Well, I can always hope.

[leveymg]

7. NYT report is a limited hangout, anyway. Doesn't touch the bigger picture about Cheney on 9/11

I had some hope for Farmer, the 9/11 Commission staffer who's come forward to say that Cheney basically lied to the panel about what his actions were that morning. But, Farmer (and the NYT book review that reports this) is preoccupied with a little corner of the story, and doesn't touch the bigger deception about Cheney's role in the attacks. Transportation Secretary Mineta tells us what Cheney did that morning, but the 9/11 Commission simply glossed over his testimony, and it was left to Woodward and another WaPo reporter to put a gloss of outright deception on the story:

Here are the two interpretations of Transportation Secretary Mineta's account (Wiki):

Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission about his experience in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as American Airlines flight 77 approached the Pentagon was not included in the 9/11 Commission Report. In one colloquy testified by Mineta, the vice president refers to orders to shoot the plane approaching the Pentagon:

"There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant."

– Norman Mineta, <3>

Mineta's testimony to the Commission on Flight 77 differs rather significantly from the account provided in the January 22, 2002 edition of the Washington Post, as reported by Bob Woodward and Dan Balz in their series "10 Days in September"

“ 9:32 a.m.
The Vice President in Washington: Underground, in Touch With Bush

Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta, summoned by the White House to the bunker, was on an open line to the Federal Aviation Administration operations center, monitoring Flight 77 as it hurtled toward Washington, with radar tracks coming every seven seconds. Reports came that the plane was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out-until word reached the bunker that there had been an explosion at the Pentagon.

Mineta shouted into the phone to Monte Belger at the FAA: "Monte, bring all the planes down." It was an unprecedented order-there were 4,546 airplanes in the air at the time. Belger, the FAA's acting deputy administrator, amended Mineta's directive to take into account the authority vested in airline pilots. "We're bringing them down per pilot discretion," Belger told the secretary.

" pilot discretion," Mineta yelled back. "Get those planes down."

Sitting at the other end of the table, Cheney snapped his head up, looked squarely at Mineta and nodded in agreement.
”
—Dan Balz and Bob Woodward, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42754-20...


This same article also reports that the conversation between Cheney and the aide occurred at 9:55 am, about 30 minutes later than the time Mineta cited (9:26 am) during his testimony to the 9/11 Commission.

This remains an unanswered question, and Farmer sheds no light on it, other than another, "Look at the shiny object over here" side-issue. Disgusting.

[SpiralHawk]

15. Thank you, Levey

for pointing all this out...

[glitch]

19. Excellent Buckminster Fuller quote! nt

[SpiralHawk]

21. The Buckster

Knows whereof he speaks...

[opihimoimoi]

8. Other Critics are LOUDLY Demanding Real Justice Prevailing...no matter what..TRUTH must be heard

Why the Resistance to Clarity and Truth??? Tis a requirement of Good Gov't

[Skittles]

9. only in a just world

[ChicagoSuz219]

11. They should just name Cheney, Ashcroft & Rumsfeld as co-conspirators & be done with it! nt

[jberryhill]

12. Probably not relevant to any defense, but...

What really bothers the right is that in response to 9/11 they gave us two wars without end, one of which had nothing to do with 9/11, and the other of which was going after the friend-of-a-friend.

To the extent the Obama administration brings any culpable person(s) to trial and obtains convictions, this is going to provide a punctuation mark; a return of the notion that justice has a standard, a conclusion, and brings closure.

Bush was never able to claim "victory". Justice will always out.

[Octafish]

13. Got two of ''some'' right here.

Know your BFEE: Bush Lied America into War

Know your BFEE: Sneering Dick Cheney, Superturd-Superrich-Supercrook

[jpak]

16. This is a master stroke of genius by Obama

It will bring everything Bush, Cheney and GOP into sharp focus.

Their failure on 9/11

Torture

Rendition

Gitmo

and it brings them all together within blocks of the WTC site.

:thumbsup:

[intheflow]

17. Some Dream Bush Admin. Could Become Target in 9/11 Trial.

At least, I do. :evilgrin:

[niyad]

20. to which I say, ABOUT DAMNED TIME