Salon.com: Obama camp was source for Edwards haircut story

[Teramis]

Source: Salon.com

"It's easy to get caught up in the distractions and the silliness and the tit-for-tat that consumes our politics; the bickering that none of us are immune to, and that trivializes the profound issues -- two wars, an economy in recession, a planet in peril," then-Sen. Barack Obama said last April, on the night he lost Pennsylvania's Democratic presidential primary to Hillary Clinton.

That sort of thing has been a consistent theme from Obama, both on the trail and while he's been in the White House, the message being that people should stop focusing on the small, silly things that characterize so much of politics, preventing actual substance from being part of the discussion.

In some ways, Obama and his team have tried to live up to that. In others, well, they're just as guilty as everyone else.

One of the sillier, more trivial stories from the presidential campaign, and perhaps the one that got people on the left most consistently riled, was what started out as a pretty short blog post by Politico's Ben Smith, who reported that John Edwards had been getting $400 haircuts. Though other scandals have since overshadowed memories of Edwards' 2008 campaign, it was a big deal at the time, and it stuck around for quite a while.

Read more: http://salon.com/news/john_edwards/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2009/11/10/edwards_haircut

[Dr Robert]

1. a haircut was the least of Edwards' problems. no doubt the Obama team knew a whole lot more

[Juche]

133. I wonder if that is why Kucinich hated Edwards so much

You could tell in the debates Kucinich didn't like Edwards. I wonder if his affair played a role. I assume part of it was he probably considered Edwards a phony progressive (ie an ex-member of the DLC who voted for corporate bills in the past who had a come to jesus moment on poverty around 2004ish).

[PurityOfEssence]

137. Possibly because he liked him so much before, and probably because Edwards tried to exclude him

When Kucinich was a guest on The Daily Show in '03, Stewart asked him who he liked out of the other candidates. Kucinich said he liked them all, but warmly singled out John Edwards.

In the '07 run-up, Edwards tried at one point to reduce one of the debates to just the three front-runners, which didn't sit well with Kucinich.

Amid all the furore and need to slag John Edwards of late, we should remember that his '03-'04 campaign was firmly grounded on a populist and economic platform. His stump speech of the time focused on how the Republican shift of the tax burden from wealth to wages was inherently wrong. Although I'm sure he didn't coin the phrase, his use of it was the first time I ever heard the term "economic populism".

It would be interesting to hear what Kucinich feels about Edwards at the moment, but once upon a time, he was the one he felt closest to.

Lest we forget, and despite claims to the contrary on this board, Edwards was the one who really latched on to the health care issue. I'm not the only one who thinks that the ascendancy of that issue was largely brought on by him.

[bluestateguy]

2. Anything that would sink his campaign is fine by be

Does anybody here understand how catastrophic it would have been to have Edwards as the nominee and then have the adultery story come out right in the summer before the election?

Vice President Palin would find it hilarious.

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. No joke.

If a haircut is what kicked it off to kill early momentum, then I am all the more grateful. Elizabeth was spared a HUGE amount of publicity that she didn't need. Not to mention the kids.

[saracat]

12. What BS. Look at all the stories that came out about Pres. Clinton.

while he was running for president. Almost ALL of our presidents had mistresses or affairs.And all of them ran on some version of family values.Things are as bad as well "allow" them to be.

[Joe the Revelator]

49. But this one seems to be validated

Would you have liked that to have come out in the middle of the campaign? Would you have enjoyed living under President McCain and Vice President Palin?

[Mithreal]

59. That diversion never gets old. You win a red herring. Congratulations.

[SammyWinstonJack]

113. +1.

:thumbsup:

[MissDeeds]

55. Clinton had his haircut issues too

He tied up a major airport for a couple hours while Air Force One sat on the runway so he could get a $200 haircut, and he had issues of infidelity during his presidency. Yet many here, myself included, would say he was a pretty good president. That doesn't make any of his moral failings right, but all things considered, I am still glad he was president.

[Luminous Animal]

68. And the lie lives on.

The story was that planes were kept circling as President Bill Clinton had his hair clipped on Air Force One at Los Angeles airport last month.

The runway haircut by Beverly Hills stylist Cristophe became such a metaphor for perceived White House arrogance that the president himself felt compelled to apologize for the reported flight delays.

But the reports were wrong.

According to Federal Aviation Administration records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, the May 18 haircut caused no significant delays of regularly scheduled passenger flights - no circling planes, no traffic jams on the runways.

Commuter airlines that fly routes reportedly affected by the president's haircut confirmed they have no record of delays that day.

The FAA records, generated by the regional Air Route Traffic Control Center, show that an unscheduled air taxi flight had the only delay attributed to the closure of two runways for an hour in anticipation of Air Force One's departure. The air taxi took off 17 minutes after leaving the gate -- two minutes late, by FAA accounting.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200702090015#correction

[question everything]

105. Thank you for setting the record straight

now, if we can find something similar about the Clinton staff "vandalizing" White House keyboards by removing the letter W?

[Luminous Animal]

111. Sure...

Here you go.

http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/2001/05/23/vandals/index.html

[question everything]

128. Thank you. Unbelievable!

I was at the gym in January and decided to watch Fox. It was about 3:00 PM Eastern and I figured hey, they'll just give the news. But they chuckled about of whether the Bush staff would remove the letter O.

[redqueen]

123. Clinton have any kids with a mistress? Was his wife battling cancer?

Context.

[zbdent]

23. what gets me is that you don't hear about Ann Coulter's credibility ...

I mean, she's the one who called him a "faggot", right?

[saracat]

30. That is hilarious! Absolutely right! Ann should publicly apologize!

:rofl:

[malaise]

54. Apparently not

It would have been beyond catastrophic

[boppers]

4. Was it a haircut from a "videographer"?...

:evilgrin:

It wasn't just a haircut, which is why the story resonated. It was a symbol of Edward's mentality, and hypocrisy, as he clearly demonstrated which part of the "two americas" he thought he belonged to.

[Skip Intro]

5. "As guilty as everyone else" - Yep. Water under the bridge, sure. Still, an insight? Hypocritical?

Sleazily done?

Yep.

[saracat]

9. Yup.

[Cha]

11. Tough Shite? You BET.

[anonymous171]

48. Shows that Obama isn´t a total wimp after all.

Edwards needed to be destroyed.

[blm]

118. Why would anyone be surprised? Axelrod did the exact same thing in 2004 when he was Edwards' guy.

He pushed the image of Edwards as being unwilling to lower himself to engage in the primary battles all the while they were quietly doing exactly that.

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[Cha]

13. And, could be from the ones who defend Edwards' sleazy behavior

to their dying breath.

Talk about hypocricy..and Edwards was full of it.

[Skip Intro]

15. Pretty sure the OP didn't write the article.

Edwards sleaze doesn't excuse the behavior of others.

[Cha]

17. Edwards' Sleaze was on a level all it's own and I'm glad

he got exposed early on.

Turns out he couldn't hide anything..not $400.00 haircuts or his sleazy affair..which are his business until he started running for president on his santimonious platform.

[Skip Intro]

20. Doesn't excuse others' hypocrisy. nt

[Cha]

24. Pine away for Edwards until

you're red in face.

[Skip Intro]

25. I'm not pining for anyone. Maybe it is your perspective that is clouded by emotion?

[Cha]

26. Maybe your perspective is clouded by bitterness.

[Mithreal]

32. Cha, some respected Edwards, leave them the fuk alone

Who is the voice for the poor now?

No one.

[Bluebear]

38. .

[Cha]

41. Edwards blew his own chance to be a voice for the poor.

[Teramis]

43. We have to admit though. He had a great health care plan

Krugman liked his plan, and President Obama in fact recently adopted the mandate that Edwards had planned.

[Mithreal]

46. A mandate without competitive public option is a farce

but that's another topic entirely.

[Cha]

56. Yeah, so what the fuck was he thinking?

[Mithreal]

45. And WE lost a voice for the poor. It was a loss for all of us.

Now leave it at that.

[Cha]

51. Tell that to fucking Edwards..I'll leave it at THAT.

[Teramis]

58. Obama supporters gave Edwards a standing ovation when Edwards endorsed Obama

"Edwards, who received a thunderous ovation when Obama introduced him to a crowd of several thousand, said, "brothers and sisters, we must come together as Democrats" to defeat McCain. "We are here tonight because the Democratic voters have made their choice, and so have I.""

He certainly wasn't viewed as a "sleazeball" back then, even though this event happened after the haircut story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/14/politics/main4097243.shtml

[Cha]

60. Yeah, we didn't know about the extra curricular Fucking back then.

[Mithreal]

62. Cha, has someone hurt you like Edwards hurt his family?

Your comments scream entirely too personal to be political.

[Cha]

120. Quit trying to be the board's psychiatrist and stick to facts.

[Mithreal]

129. A comment or two does not make me a psychiatrist

but if I could I would prescribe you for meds.

[cali]

75. codswallop. Littlle Johnny Hedgefund did jackshit for the poor

opportunistic fuckwad. And Bernie has been speaking out for the poor before the opportunistic little shit ever thought of exploiting them for his own ambition. So have others.

[Mithreal]

100. Crawl out of from under a hole for my comment, I am so honored, thank you

I was talking about a President.

So, you do not believe Edwards changed and that he was a snake oil salesman all along? All right, people can say the same about other Democratic leaders and they remain opinions and nothing more without evidence. The people here who kick Edwards and family while they are down, well, go the fuk ahead and carry on, ya bastards. I think it is especially amusing when they say how sad they are for the family while they kick him again and again. I will stand up for any human being being kicked around and I don't just do it in e-land. Cali, if you are an ally leave his family and him alone. You and your cohort got what you wanted, he is done. He has no more political career ever.

However, I agree about Bernie Sanders. The more his voice is heard, the more hopeful I am.

[cali]

112. Yep. I believe Edwards is a phony and never gave a flying fuck about anyone but himself

And who is my cohort, dear?

[Mithreal]

119. Kicking them when they are down takes real courage

deary ; )

[avaistheone1]

135. Yeah, he is no match for Prez Obama who has orchestrated the greatest wealth transfer from the

poor and middle class to the wealthy via the Wall Street banksters - thanks to Obama's buddies at Treasury and at the SEC.

You need to try harder to match this stuff cali.

[dionysus]

124. edwards' support for the poor was a total sham, and the opposite of his voting record.

"ahm at this here hedge fund studyin' pahvetty for mah campayne"
but smoove johnny doesn't matter any more.

[saracat]

28. it seems impossible for some to understand being motivated by issues and a platform

as opposed to slavish dedication to a politician.Nor do they understand that ALL candidates are politicians, including their own. Bill Maher said it best" its not as if he were your boyfriend". Some of us get that, others don't.:shrug:

[Skip Intro]

35. I know. Odd. WTF? nt

[Mithreal]

37. second that

[Autumn]

47. Very good,

I never thought Bill or John cheated on me. It wasn't my business. But then I have never seen a politician who was perfect.

[saracat]

27. Exactamento!

[CreekDog]

7. Sounds like he needed a haircut

Rather than the trim. :O

[FLyellowdog]

8. something else shoulda been cut, IMO. nt

[NYCGirl]

52. A great, but obscure, reference. Bravo! NT

[redqueen]

125. LOL

[Puzzler]

10. Isn't the Edwards haircut meme older than the 2008 primaries?

I heard pundits going on about Edwards haircuts in 2004... along with the "Breck Girl" bullshit too.

[chill_wind]

14. I thought so, too. n/t

[ecstatic]

86. Exactly. More lies by desperate Obama haters

Even if true, the Obama camp could have said much, much worse things.

[hileeopnyn8d]

117. I remember it from 2004

It absolutely did not start in 2008. Along with the haircut thing, there was a video of him preening before an event. I remember it like it was yesterday, because some asshole on another board I belonged to, posted it in every single thread that was supportive of Kerry/Edwards.

[redqueen]

127. Yep. (nt)

[mainer]

152. Absolutely. No one had heard of Obama then.

I remember "Breck Girl" from the 2004 campaign.

[patrice]

16. I'm shocked! Shocked! I tell you, that politickin' was goin' on in a campaign!!!

That sort of thing is acceptable only when it's a complete lie, such as what the Shit Bloaters did to John Kerry.

[Teramis]

18. I don't recall any price tag being assigned to his haircut pre-08. I do recall the "Breck girl" meme

Which is about his hairstyle.

[FrenchieCat]

19. You mean, Obama invited Edwards hairstylist to fly to Edwards and give him a cut?

The guy must be brilliant!

Did anyone know that his team was also responsible for that great commercial
with the 1984 theme against Hillary Clinton?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

Glad that we've got a genius running the show. Probably the reason we are closer
to HCR than at any other time before in decades!


But, can't give him all of the credit....
cause I don't think Obama was responsible for Edwards' "I feel Pretty" Video...was he?

[madrchsod]

21. and the point is......

[sellitman]

22. Yawn

Must be a slow news cycle.

[David Zephyr]

57. I'll double that yawn.

.

[Mithreal]

66. No doubt, the story is FAR LESS intriguing than the reaction

I have my doubts why someone would even post this story unless it was to divide over nothing and distract.

[ClarkUSA]

29. Was the Dave Matthews Band playing in the background during the haircut? nt

[tammywammy]

71. ....

:applause:


:rofl:

[AspenRose]

131. Bwah!

:spray:

[Toucano]

31. Must be a slow day at Salon.com

Cause who gives a fuck, really?

Really?

[Mithreal]

33. Mods, how is this deserving of LBN?

[Teramis]

34. 1) comes from a respectable source 2) Was posted only a few hours ago 3) reports something new

I would say those are the reasons why.

[Mithreal]

36. As I was saying, DU takes LBN more seriously. Thank you, mods.

I would argue the relevance of your counterpoints but I no longer need to do so.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

81. True...

But it's also pretty frivolous.

[blogslut]

39. It wasn't the haircut that de-railed John Edwards

He did that all by himself.

[Cha]

42. Brilliant! Thank you.

[Mithreal]

44. Really? That was brilliant? Now I can't take you seriously.

[Cha]

53. I don't care how you take anything..it's only obvious you

have a one track mind and that track is stuck way back when Edwards' infidelity hadn't been exposed yet.

[Mithreal]

64. Um, no, I moved on.

[tavalon]

65. And yours appears to be stuck after the infidelity

Pot, meet kettle.

[Cha]

70. I'm not stuck anywhere. I'm living in the present/

[tavalon]

107. I challenge that belief on your part

You've spent way too much time on this topic. Way too much.

[Cha]

122. Sez the net nanny who commands no respect.

[ProSense]

40. .

:rofl:

[Avalux]

50. The haircut story was true, lol. So what??

Edwards was egotistical enough to get $400 haircuts and reported them to the FEC. The information was out there so it's not as if any digging needed done. No lies were told.

What a weak-assed story.

[Raine]

61. Good for Obama

Thank God Edwards went down before he got very far.

[Peacetrain]

63. You have got to be kidding me.. how about the 2004 1200 Edwards hair cut on plane

that was all the talk radio hell hounds went on about.. I do not think the Obama campaign was running in 2004 :crazy:

[Teramis]

67. The $1200 and the $400 story are the same one (different money estimates)

There was no $1200 haircut story in the year 2004.

[Peacetrain]

69. Google can be your friend.. two different stories.. two different campaigns

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/05/edwards-400-haircut-actually-a-bargain/

[Teramis]

73. You falsely stated that in 2004, talk radio shows were talking about the $1200 haircut

The 2004 story was not known until Edwards' stylist told the Washington Post about it in 2007

WASHINGTON POST (July, 2007): "Torrenueva said one haircut during the 2004 presidential race cost $1,250 because he traveled to Atlanta and lost two days of work."

From the link you gave me.

Don't you find it intersting that you cannot find any link dated 2004 regarding a $1200 haircut?

[Peacetrain]

74. I was around asshat... I know what happened..

[Teramis]

76. Edwards' stylist broke the 2004 haircut news to the Washington Post in July, 2007

"I was around" is no evidence. We go by links here.

[Peacetrain]

77. ROFL....

[Teramis]

79. Still zero links from 2004. Only a 2007 news report n/t

[Mari333]

72. How Rovian of them. nt

[FrenchieCat]

80. Actually quite elementary!

now if you want to get into rovelike, just think scouring tapes of Rev. Wright's sermons till you get just the right one, and get people to know how to get folks to believe that whatever your pastor said, you said.

Now, that's some Booga Booga shit there.

A $400 haircut, not so much.

[Mari333]

83. oh well, the obama admin did it so its okay of course

no matter how low it sinks. even if its Rovian. we cannot criticize the tactics of the great and mighty Obama admin of course.

[Mithreal]

87. This is really trivial though, you have to admit, no?

[Peacetrain]

88. The OP is sh*t stirring..

:hi:..

[Mithreal]

95. Sure seems like it.

Hiya right back : )

[Mari333]

91. depends. lowclass tactics are lowclass integrity.

imo.

[Mithreal]

97. Yeah, I hear ya, but the problem is this wasn't that serious a charge

Now, if they played games with his infidelity, then maybe I would be more open to persuasion but even then, maybe not.

Look who the President picked for Chief of Staff, low class all the way.

Next time a candidate has the press in an uproar about hair, maybe he or she should consider a shave. If the press wants to only talk about your hair, take it all off.

[FrenchieCat]

92. If I don't respond in kind to this snarky post,

then you'll end up looking super silly without any further comments from me,
with this retort.

So, OK, I'm gonna be quiet.

[KittyWampus]

115. You must not understand who Karl Rove is and how he operates. Because "leaking"

a truthful piece of political info that puts ones opponent in an unfavorable light is politics 101 and the most basic strategy.

Karl Rove took an opponents strength and actual facts and then fabricated stories that said the exact opposite.

[CakeGrrl]

106. How's that?

Rove planted SUGGESTIONS of wrongdoing to warp perceptions in people's minds.

Edwards actually DID have these haircuts, and someone found it out.

Then leave it to Politico to have stirred the s%it, pretty much like the OP is doing.

[PopSixSquish]

78. If the Phrase "Whoopty-Fucking-Do" Didn't Already Exist, We Would Have to Invent it For This Story

I was an early Edwards supporter but $400.00 for a haircut?

This is exactly the rinky-dink bullshit stuff that every politician pulls on another candidate and every politician should know better than to give another candidate ammo...

[Midwestern Democrat]

82. I have always hated this kind of "trivial pursuit" type of politics - I

understand that it's a part of the game and it works (unfortunately) - but I've never liked it. We're certainly lucky that Edwards didn't get the nomination, but I will say that it takes a whole lot of nerve for someone whose campaign cost somewhere in the region of $750,000,000 to make a campaign issue out of a pricey haircut.

[FrenchieCat]

94. $750,000,000 to win the Presidency?

Hell, that was a bargain,
considering how fucked we were for 8 years,
and how totally fucked we would continue to be
with McCain running the ship.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

84. From a former Edwards supporter: Who cares?

I'm just glad he didn't win the nomination.

[H2O Man]

85. huge

thanks for keeping it real

[Blue_Tires]

89. um...i'm almost certain that dates back to the '04 race

if someone would bother to search the archives from 2004 i'm sure it would be found...

[Peacetrain]

90. It does.. or at least one of the stories do.. that is the souce of it

a 1200 haircut.. that sent the right wingers nutty and was the source of the Breck girl thingy with Limbaugh.. Can any of us forget that goofy video.

The right has this thing about hair.. they did it to Clinton and Kerry also.

[Teramis]

93. In 2004, nobody said that Edwards had paid $1200 for a haircut

The first news about this 2004 haircut was reported in 2007, a few months after the $400 haircut broke.
As journalists became interest in the $400 story, they interviewed Edwards' hair stylist, who then disclosed the 2004 amount.

[Blue_Tires]

104. even then, i fail to see the story here...

it's not like we'd be saluting president edwards right now if only the whole world didn't know the cost of his haircuts...that's like saying a loose rivet played a role in the sinking of the titanic...

[unc70]

138. You realize he was/is Kerry's stylist. I noticed something curious in all this

Lots of things suggest that the Obama campaign "researchers" knew about this payment well before it was on the FEC site, maybe within a few days of it happening.

The stylist or someone at his salon, and they had sent the bill to the campaign.

Someone in the Edwards campaign is another possibility.

Either answer would suggest that this was a setup.

BTW wasn't it convenient to already have the Obama barber story.

[blm]

143. AXELROD was Edwards' campaign manager in 2004. BASIC facts are so easily forgotten

around here.

[unc70]

151. Plouffe/OC behind early primary fiasco wrt Clinton FL delegates

Not only did the Obama campaign orchestrate keeping the FL primary non-compliant, they were able to use bloggers (several on this thread) and pundits to blame Clinton and thus justify denying delegates because "she is getting what she deserves". Plouffe confirms.

Now, here is why the haircut story is important: Ben Smith at Politico broke the story on April 16 (after the FEC filings were available). He said that the first campaign haircut payment was Feb 20. Smith then links to his blog about Obama's barber posted Feb 23. Smith had another entry on that day quoting Obama on the plane about getting a haircut when he got back home.

Like many stories during the campaign, these two stories remain confined to the blogs and not worthy enough to be news. Not much from the

[riderinthestorm]

96. Meh. Chicago style politics as usual. Whatever it takes to take down an opponent.

Sorry but Obama's advisors are classic Chi-town political apparatchiks. Ignore that at your peril. Rahm, David Axelrod etc. - nursed and grown at the Chicago teat. I know people don't want to think about Obama as having emerged from that machine but he is a true disciple and proven beneficiary.

[ecstatic]

99. You've joined the Palins/republicans in smearing northern cities

[riderinthestorm]

101. Yes and because I helped elect Obama, and I'm from the Chicago area, I'm smearing...?

who? exactly?

The Chicago Tribune is OVERFLOWING with stories about Chicago politicians and their wretched shittiness.

I think it's sad that DUers automatically assume anyone who offers critique or insight is some kind of Palin/Rethug troll.

I live here. I love this city. I've been a part of Dem campaigns for decades. You can call my observations "smear", I call it as it is.

[saracat]

108. Shhhh. Some don't believe Obama is a politician. They think he is different.

They don't want their illusion shattered.

[Azathoth]

103. So pointing to evidence that your opponent is a hypocritical fraud is now "Chicago-style politics"?

Most of us would call that "running a competent campaign."

Nice to see that you've got the Limbaugh talking points down. Next time Obama does anything, make a joke about him burying his opponents in concrete -- that should earn you your official Dittohead merit badge.

[ecstatic]

98. The house story sunk Edwards way more than the haircut story

[KittyWampus]

116. It was indeed a pattern. The McMansion-On-Steriods > Hedgefunds > Expensive Haircuts >

pregnant mistress flying around as part of the campaign getting paid for her services.

[Azathoth]

102. The haircut story stuck because it fit into a pattern

The house, the hedge fund, the haircuts, etc. Edwards' lifestyle practically screamed "I'm a fraud."

If I had been a campaign staffer for a candidate running against an unctuous, hypocritical huckster like him, I would have been mentioning the haircut story every time I talked to a reporter.

[Egnever]

109. Thats possible

According to ploufes book there was a point in the campaign where Obama found out people were going negative on his behalf and he clamped down on it pretty hard.

They werent saints ever to be sure but it wasnt and still isnt Obamas MO to run on negative attacks.

People here were screaming for him to fight back so much so that in the primaries the dem leadership and many here were worried he wasnt tough enough to run a general election campaign.

How quickly people forget.

Aside from that I am all for anything that brought that snake oil salesman Edwards down. After watching him campaign in 04 and then watching him reinvent himself in 08 i was amazed anyone at all fell for his charade.

[saracat]

110. But this is from David Ptouffle's new book. He is the one writing about it!

Not that it matters. It seems some think this is a slam. It is a campaign memoir.

[CakeGrrl]

134. I for one don't think it's a slam at all.

And you're right - it doesn't matter.

This isn't falsified information, you know, like making up a heroic sniper fire dodge. The guy got the haircuts, and in the scheme of things, did a lot more that everyone here knows damned well would have sunk him and the Dems had he gone further than he did.

So yeah. The Obama team knows how to find facts. And?

[itsrobert]

114. Obama is just another Politician

Anyone surprised? :shrug:

[Cha]

126. John Edwards didn't want his haircuts exposed? Then

he shouldn't have had them.

John Edwards didn't want his sleazeball affair exposed? Then he should have stayed true to his wife.

John Edwards shouldn't have put his country at risk but he did.

Good for the Obama campaign.

[WeDidIt]

121. THANK GOD THEY DID!!!

Could you imagine having Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency, because McCain would've trounced Edwards after his philandering on a wife who was dying of breast cancer hit the light of day.

[budkin]

130. Fuck Edwards.

It embarrasses me to have supported that douchebag.

[Forkboy]

132. You mean a campaign highlighted a bad story about another campaign?

No way!

[Beacool]

136. Par for the course.

Axelrod, Plouffe, et al. did the dirty work and Obama pretended to be above the fray. Hope and change indeed.

:eyes:

[alcibiades_mystery]

139. Succeeded in beating your ass, though

:rofl:

[Beacool]

141. My "ass" wasn't running for anyhting.

:shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

142. LOL

Oh, you want the Queen's English? I admire Obama's campaign team for having defeated *your* candidate, who began the primary season as the inevitable Democratic candidate, but was given poor advice by her nasty little set of advisors, and ended up losing the primary to the obviously more deft Obama team.

:rofl:

It's also a damn good thing that they sank the dishonest Edwards before he made a mess of the general election, don't you think?

[Beacool]

144. Obama's campaign was just as "nasty".

Only difference is that they did their dirty dealings under the table, Chicago style. Regardless, more registered Democrats still voted for Hillary than voted for Obama. Well, it's water under the bridge, he's what we got for now.

:eyes:

[alcibiades_mystery]

145. The only difference is that they won

And your candidate LOST.

:rofl:

[Beacool]

146. Sometimes you lose by winning.

Particularly given the state of the country.......

:shrug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

147. ROFL

Whatever makes you feel better...

:rofl:

[Beacool]

148. Honey, I'm fine.

I'm personally OK regardless of who is president. Unfortunately, other people are not so lucky.

:(

[alcibiades_mystery]

149. Sure you are

In any case, I'm glad the best person for the job won out.

:-)

[Beacool]

150. That's a matter of opinion...........

Bye, got too much work.

:D

[PVnRT]

140. What the fuck is the point of this?

1) It was a stupid fucking story to begin with.
2) Edwards is a non-entity now.
3) This serves no other purpose other than to allow the rabid anti-Edwards people to scream and shout, and the people who are determined to keep fighting the primaries to scream and shout right back.
4) Aren't there more important things to be worried about.

Proud unrec.