26. Why take anything out of the bill that was weaken enough
Go nuclear ...beat the S.O.B's at their own game. After all they pushed legislation down the throats of the democrats who didn't have the votes. And all the democrats so damn weak and sissified that they are going to let them get away with it.
HARRY REID as I found out from checking has the authority to remove Liberman...get his butt out..do you DU have the reserve to flood Reid with letters, and phone calls, email won't do, because they just put it in the pile and it is never read. So send letters, overwhelm him. We are supposed to have about 100,000 members maybe more and I am sure we can afford 48 cents for a stamp...send it to him. When he gets the pile he will know he better get with it or else. Remember all the letters that the sent about Santa Claus, this is just as or more important.
I think Joe is just doing the bidding of Obama and of a lot of the conservative Democrats, like Baucus, and Blanche et al, and what will happen it that they will "reluctantly" remove the already non-functional PO (to guarantee that it can't ever become functional at some later date) they will strip away the drug price negotiations, and probably they will do some other big concessions to their corporate overlords and both Joe and Snowe will vote for the bill after it's been properly formated.
This will give cover to Obama and to the other Dems so that they can continue to collect contributions from the industry without having to take direct personal responsibility for making the bill even more industry friendly than it already is.
Joe will play the bad cop, and all the Dems can point to him and blame him while they stash their loot and tell their constituents that it was the only way to get any reform at all.
Come election time, Obama will stump for Joe. Watch.
..it would be pretty damn intimidating, I would think. I would think he wouldn't want to lose his chairmanship over this, something that probably took many years to get? :dilemma: But then again, that's assuming he's still of a rational mind..
68. It may not get this bill passed but it will put all on Notice of the consequences
Of doing a historic thing by siding with the opposition on a precedural vote. He can vote his conscience on the bill itself but to stop even debate on a procedural vote is unprecedented. He would be making History in that regard. He should lose any privilege of the Majority.
39. He will work to weaken it more and make it even better for the Insurance Industry.
That is why he is crying foul.
'So Senator Lieberman, what do we have to do to get you to vote on it?'
Sen. L. - 'Well, I just think the government should restrict further expansion of the public option, because that would be unfair for the Insurance Companies to compete with.'
Cheer Leading Squad on DU: 'OMG! OMG! OMG! This is the best this country has ever done and it helps a few, so the rest of us should be happy, even though we will get screwed. We got a foot in the door! YES!'
To bad the door will be heavily chained and reinforced, rendering the foot in the door useless. Along with finalizing it, so anything in the future would have to undo this abomination to correct anything and actually GET Health Care Reform.
34. Come back next year, which will be perfect for upcoming elections.
And start over with the way it should have been done the first time, instead of conceding from the start, so we at LEAST end up with a Strong Public Option, without any Giveaways to the Insurance Industry. Like 65% - 70% of Americans want, and like we were promised.
If the Democrats were to do that, they would actually PICK UP seats in Congress in the 2010 Election, instead of facing the loss of seats in 2010 & even more losses in 2012.
After all, the White House and the Democratic Congress does want to get it right for the American People don't they?
The American People don't have to have Health Care resources taken from them and squandered, just so the Insurance Industry can forcibly extort excessive profits, through the Federal Government, from the American People, do they? Is this what the Democrats represent?
42. You could have provided a temporary pool before REAL reform passed...
At any time, but helping people is NOT what this is all about.
Insurance Industry BAILOUT is what this is all about.
Do you really believe doing it RIGHT next year, will cost YEARS? Please explain?
How many people are going to be put in unnecessary hardship due to failed Health Care Reform, which will harm their health and lives?
So the Middle Class gets stuck with permanently paying for the Insurance Industry's gouges for the last 10 years, and face mandated acceptable premium increases and forced seizure and imprisonment if they resist?
At age 13, I was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. That was 27 years ago, so I know all about the Insurance Industry / Death Merchants.*
At age 25, a wreck that crushed a leg and left me with a stretched and torn sciatic nerve in my pelvis, which still causes severe nerve pain in my leg.
Seen enough, or do you want more credentials?
Oh, and since I had to survive, I endured and suffered to go to work to support myself, which DISQUALIFIES me from your 'help' and actually threatens the coverage that I do have now. I accepted the only life choices available to me to get that, after I endured 10 years of doing without. By the way, your bill still would not have covered me at any point either, so don't tell me how great your bill is.
36. Then we need to "block" HIS health care, paid for
by we, the taxpayers, many of whom, like yours truly, are uninsured though we pay taxes to cover the cadillac health care of congress critters like Lieberasshole. Why the hell should he get cadillac health care paid for by the very people he's trying to deny care to????????????
54. And I heard that he's trying to foment more anti-Moslem hysteria
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 03:15 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
I heard a story on the early news about Lieberman forming a committee to study terrorists hiding in the military as a result of the Hasan case. Can't he at least wait until the military have concluded their own investigation? On Fox News this past Sunday, Lieberman point blank called Hasan a "home grown terrorist". He may be a murderer, but is he a terrorist? Even the top brass at Fort Hood haven't called him that yet.
60. Maybe now is the time to push for a bill ending the ability to be hired by campaign contributors...
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 07:55 PM by cascadiance
So that we stop the "revolving door". Then perhaps Senators like Baucus and Lieberman who are probably counting on that door being open soon for them, since their political future probably won't allow for any future elected office, might suddenly start to rethink their strategy. That way they can't "Tauzin" themselves a retirement job!
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