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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:49 PM
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YouTube: Rihanna breaks her silence about Chris Brown beating on 20/20
Dianne Sawyer: "At one point your mouth was completely filled with blood?"

Rihanna: "Yes."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBngs0GASns
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:52 PM
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1. why does she come out now? now that she needs to sell an album...
not very credible....she has a history of being violent herself that she is not talking about..

Not to mention all the S&M,naked, and breast hanging out clothes she likes to wear..

a mediocre artist seeking to promote her album, is what this smells like
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:53 PM
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2. Did you see the
pictures of her battered face? How much more credible to you need to be?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:59 PM
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10. Then you understand nothing about the psychological trauma
that battered women undergo. Going back to the abuser is a very common practice. Tragically self-defeating, but also common.


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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:56 PM
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5. I've worked in domestic shelters for battered women
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 06:11 PM by HipChick
trust me..I've seen a real battered woman, without resources that has no choice BUT to go back - not someone who goes back to their accuser, and then wants to play victim when she has an album to sell...she needs to discuss her own role in the situation too...a lot of other people in the know,and industry are talking about it..
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:58 PM
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8. if you really worked in a DV shelter, you would not be surprised
by a woman going back to her batterer. It happens a shockingly high percentage of the time.

I frankly don't believe anything you say about your background.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:00 PM
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13. like I'm going to lose sleep...snooze...
but I guess you've never been anywhere near a DV center...she could have done a lot for DV,she choose not to..
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:02 PM
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18. No, I have a much better idea than a poseur like yourself
who has likely never met a battered woman.


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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:04 PM
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27. She must be putting $$ in your pocket..
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:05 PM
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29. Wow, you really hate her.
Are you Chris Brown's new girlfriend by any chance? Or maybe Chris Brown himsself?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:09 PM
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36. so because people disagree with you..
you automatically have to attack ..
I'm just amazed people wrap themselves so blindly in something like this..
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:10 PM
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39. When you come in here pushing anti-woman talking points,
you get some appropriate feedback.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:14 PM
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49. so as long as it agrees with your viewpoint..
people don't even have their own lives together,but are all wrapped up in someone else
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:16 PM
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52. Whatever dude. nt
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:33 PM
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68. a prediction
this one won't last long.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:21 PM
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60. My life is togther
than you very much.

I find someone that does what you are doing pretty fucking pathetic.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:11 PM
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42. No... it wasn't a disagreement
it was your failure to be TRUTHFUL on this thread about working with DV women.

I am not sure what you are here for, but honey...you're ruse is up. You've been caught. We don't BELIEVE YOU. Get it toots?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:04 PM
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25. Do you have some sort of inside info
that the rest of us louses don't?

How do you know she she isn't doing anything for Domestic Violence?

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:06 PM
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32. Same place 'she' got her information that women
who wear skimpy clothes aren't real victims and that it's unheard of for DV victims to return to their batterers.

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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:09 PM
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Yeah... looks like Hip'chic's ruse is up.
They just can't stay away can they? Must be the new furniture DU put in! :rofl:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:20 PM
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59. Isn't she trying to help now?
What if her story helps one person?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:02 PM
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19. Yup.
We just said almost the same thing.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:01 PM
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17. Ummm...if you have worked with
battered Women, then you should know that MANY,MANY Women go back to their abusers..... you do know this...Right?

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:02 PM
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20. I'm calling misogynist troll whose correct name should be
HipDude.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:09 PM
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34. I'm sure there was a publicist involved with that decision.
I wouldn't put that on her. You don't know when it was recorded or what arrangements were made between the producers and the publicists.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:09 PM
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38. You are a liar. noone who's worked with abused women would say such ignorant horseshit!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:41 PM
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76. Umm, you seem to be saying she deserved to be beaten. That is not cool at all.
Are you somehow angry or jealous of Rhianna? Your reaction is a bit weird, the talk of her "role" and industry insiders. It doesn't matter what she did or what industry folks gossip about, nothing she has done could ever justify the battering she took. Nothing.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:59 PM
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12. I read a quote from her yesterday that was something like...
"...I woke up and found out that I'd become Britney Spears."

So the beating itself caused physical damage, but the aftermath (including her "under the media radar" hook-ups after the beating) have caused extreme damage to her career as well.

I thought it was sad that she has apologized for "taking him back," because I don;t know of anyone who stepped up and thought that was a GOOD idea, but it was her life.

Frank Zappa once said "Shut up & play yer guitar"...

...maybe Rihanna needs to shut up and promote her new album. I don't know. She deserves healing, but I doubt she'll find it under the media spotlight.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:02 PM
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22. Rhianna is unquestioningly a victim. It chills me to the bone that anyone
would align the clothes she wears as justification for her battering. NO woman deserves this. This is the same as justifying rape. This is violence against women. And is wrong.She is a victim.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:03 PM
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23. Omigod, are we agreeing? nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:04 PM
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26. Yes we are.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:13 PM
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45. Misogyny is perfectly OK on DU, as usual.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:35 PM
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70.  Yep. Goes along with all the anti choice BS in other threads,Unbelievable.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:45 PM
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77. I'm shocked (SHOCKED!!) to be agreeing with you on ANYTHING.
But on this we agree.

She is a victim.

Say it again for those who refuse to understand and get this through their idiotic little heads.

She is a victim.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:15 PM
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51. Are you for real?
I don't believe for a second you're actually a chick. Are you actually saying that she's not credible because of the clothes she wears? She was beaten to a bloody pulp for christ's sakes and you're gonna pull this shit. Whatever you're peddling, it smells to high heaven.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:19 PM
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57. Who cares about what hangs out of her clothes? What does
that have to do with domestic violence?

And what if this story helps people?
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:25 PM
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65. Rihanna has a violent past? I didn't know this. Linky please.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 09:58 PM
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82. Link? kick.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:57 PM
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7. Me either..people need to interview her other ex-boyfriends..
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:14 PM
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48. Oh look, another ignorant misogynistic twit.
:puke:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:23 PM
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62. Then you have no empathy for most people who are abused by
their SO. Most do go back. What bullshit.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:57 PM
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6. A lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.
Misogyny is strong, and both men and women espouse it.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:58 PM
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9. No blaming...both are idiots...both need to come clean
not just when you need to sell an album
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:00 PM
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14. Sure thing, Hip 'Chick' nt
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:01 PM
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15. She's going back to what she does for a living, which
must mean she deserved to get the crap beaten out of her.

DU draws some real psychopaths.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:04 PM
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24. so if people don't agree with your point of view, you have to go to name-calling?
people like to bash when they can't debate
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:05 PM
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28. You cite her clothing as proof she's not a real DV victim, then spout
complete ignorance while lying about having worked in DV shelters, which anyone who had any exposure to DV victims would recognize as crap.

You're not exactly clever about the game you're playing.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:06 PM
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30. Why does stating my opinions equate to a game?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:07 PM
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33. When you misrepresent your background in order
to validate your misogyny, that's a game.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:15 PM
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50. If someone claimed to have worked with dogs and then acted
surprised that they barked, they would be a liar.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:19 PM
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58. If someone said they worked with dogs, and then said they liked Mike Vick
they would get called a liar..
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:16 PM
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54. Ummm...
She has misrepresented herself as someone who has worked in a battered womens shelter.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:06 PM
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31. I work with abused women where I volunteer at and the posts in this thread are PATHETIC!!!
You misogynistic jerks should be ashamed of yourselves.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:09 PM
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35. One of them is claiming to have worked in domestic violence shelters..
But then feigns shock that a battered woman would go back.

Which makes that person, well, a liar.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:11 PM
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40. If you actually read my post, instead of projecting your own ideas
I said most of the women I have dealt with, DO NOT have the resources, and they have no choice to go back...DUH!
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:12 PM
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43. Resources are not the only reason
why Women go back!

Hello!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:14 PM
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47. Anyone who had worked with them would know that there
are many reasons they go back.

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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:58 PM
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80. You are as transparent as Scotch tape, shame on you n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:11 PM
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41. Yep, definitely a liar.
Her ignorance indicates she has never worked with abused women.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:12 PM
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44. Is this Freeper site or DU?
I was not aware people were not allowed to have a different viewpoint
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:16 PM
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55. Lying about working at a women's shelter is fucking pathetic.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:22 PM
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61. accusing me of lying and attacking is pretty pathetic since no-one
bothered to really read what I said..
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:23 PM
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63. No... I read it alright.
So, hip' chic...pray tell, what shelter did you work at? What type of work did you do?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:24 PM
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64. What you said was factually incorrect.
Lack of resources is not the only reason abuse women go back to their abusers. Which just goes to show how ignorant you are, which proves you never worked at a women's shelter.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:43 PM
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81. They are allowed to have different viewpoints
but when those viewpoints are ignorant, they will be called out about that.

I've never worked with abused women, but I've dealt with a friend in an abusive relationship. She had resources, yet she stayed for way too long. It's not abnormal, and any human being who used their mind for something other than being a total judgmental twat would realize that women stay in abusive relationships for many reasons.

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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:14 PM
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46. weirdest trolls lately
huh?

Masquerading as a Woman who worked with Battered Women to boot! They are certainly getting *cough* colorful?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:16 PM
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53. yep...post a different pov and you get called a troll,liar and all kinds of stuff..
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:18 PM
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56. This was not a different POV
You have obviously never worked with battered women before, if you had you would have never posted such an insane load of crap!

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:30 PM
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66. You commented on how she dresses. What in the hell does that
have to do with any damn thing?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:36 PM
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71. This person is obvioulsy deluded
and knows nothing about Domestic Violence.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:38 PM
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73. you spouted some ignorant, misogynistic bs
take you POV to FR if you want to be accepted.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:33 PM
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67. **This must be a Rihanna Stan only thread**
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 06:49 PM by HipChick
If only democrats could get as riled up about voting, as they can about people they don't even know...
If only everyone was outraged enough to go volunteer some time at a battered women's home, DV center too..
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:35 PM
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69. Yeah because domestic violence doesn't matter.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. yeah... shove us wimmins
to the back of the bus and make me DINNER!

LOL!
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:39 PM
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74. Pretty gross and sad, huh?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:40 PM
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75. Not to mention WEIRD!
Geez!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:46 PM
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78. If only Democrats could get as riled up about women's rights and against violence against women
women might get more respect and victims like Rhianna wouldn't be victimized with the approval of those who claim to be liberals.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:16 PM
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79. About damn time.
Say, who is Rhiannon anyway?
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 10:40 PM
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83. Battered women don't recognize that they may raise their
children to become "Chris Browns". This week I was repeatedly hit and kicked by very young child who comes from such a background. I was standing in front of him to keep him from hurting other children in the class. He knowns no better way to get what he wants. My bruises will go away, but I fear for what this little guy will grow up to be. Violence is normal for him.
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