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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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Live presser from Ft. Hood right now on Rachel's show
:cry:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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1. the shooter is not dead!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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5. Can you believe it? good - I want to hear what his story is from him
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:16 PM
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9. How odd
They gave explicit details of how he was shot and killed, and suddenly he's alive?

Strange, very strange.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:17 PM
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11. Yea, it is but then again...
first moments pure chaos. Still, what a strange thing indeed.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:17 PM
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10. It shows how facts get misreported and rumor gets spread
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:18 PM
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13. but....
It was this same General who reported this afternoon that the shooter was shot and killed. That isn't misreporting the facts, that's changing them.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:20 PM
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17. Whoa. That's very strange. Some kind of deliberate misinformation campaign? but why? nt
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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2. Shooter not dead, did I hear that correctly? nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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3. The shooter is not dead!
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 PM
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4. The shooter is alive!
:wow:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:16 PM
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6. Crap the shooter still is alive
Waste of time and money on him.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:20 PM
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16. That's a really jeryy way to think of him being alive
wow
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:16 PM
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7. Wow, the shooter survived somehow. 12 dead now rather than 13 as was updated earlier.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:16 PM
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8. I'm watching.
Rachel is so good at getting stuff on the air.

Me too CW :cry:
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:17 PM
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12. Can you give us (me) a run down on what's being said?
No teevee and I'm on dialup so I can't get the show.

Thanks!

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:18 PM
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14. the female police officer who took him down is still alive
and is out of surgery.

Initial reports said she was dead.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:22 PM
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21. So 7 hours later, the story is changing. Dramatically.
Two of the major players in the story are alive, after the General (spokesman) told reporters they were dead.

That's just... very odd.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:25 PM
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25. Very, very bizarre. General just said Hasan is not speaking to law enforcement and that
his life is not in imminent danger from his wounds.

Weirdest change in story line I've heard in awhile. He's dead, now he has been in custody since the shooting and is alive and stable. A total head scratcher.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:39 PM
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29. I could NOT write this and have it published
There is quite a bit to the story... CID was with him at all time and CID did not let their chain know? That said. chaos may explain some of this, but it still has me going ... hmmm
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:20 PM
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18. shooting took place in 2 facilities
they are reviewing the timeline, and don't want to comment on that.

Shooter had 2 semi automatic weapons.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:22 PM
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22. no evidence that this is a terrorist act.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:19 PM
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15. Who died?
I know a few people at Ft Hood. It's a large base so it may not be them but I'm interested.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:21 PM
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19. No names until NOK are notified. Heard that earlier. nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:22 PM
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20. he's not giving out that info
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:23 PM
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23. I just tuned in seconds ago
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 09:24 PM by JonLP24
Of course NOK should be notified first, I just didn't know how long this has been news.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:24 PM
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24. shooter's death is not imminent
soldiers on the scene provided first aid and saved lives.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:25 PM
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26. people were in some sort of waiting room?
Did I hear that right?

Random notes as the news is reported:

Shooter used some form of semi automatic weapon

Woman who shot the shooter is alive

FBI is on base

Can't rule out terrorism, but evidence does not suggest that

Quick reaction from the people there...soldiers ripping off clothes to bandage the wounded, giving first aid etc

Shooter's condition is not revealed

Shooter is not currently talking to investigators

Soldiers do not carry weapons on base unless they're training

Military weapons not used

More details to come

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:28 PM
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27. How the fuck is that bastard still living?
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:35 PM
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28. Several reasons I'd guess.
1. The soldiers on base don't carry weapons around with them so most of them were unarmed when Hasan started shooting. They were literally, sitting ducks without any ability to take him down.

2. The female police officer who shot him is an extremely good shot and knew how to shoot to maim and take down rather than shoot to kill.

3. She's a terrible shot and missed enough times she didn't kill him and only wounded him.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:39 PM
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30. Well in this country we do not encourage people to attack a dangerous perpetrator
and empty their guns on him, or hack him to pieces with blades, or set him on fire, once he is subdued. Strange as it may seem. Being in the military does not automatically overwrite those cultural inhibitions.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:20 PM
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31. Rachel said that they're having a live update at 11...
:-(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:33 PM
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32. Thanks, R
:hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:36 PM
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33. You're welcome, my friend...
:hi:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:40 PM
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34. FWIW, I read on another unrelated board (sports oriented) that the shooter was being operated
on at the hospital but until someone saw his picture on TV, hospital staff DID NOT KNOW he was the shooter. The hospital staff apparentnly alerted law enforcement that this guy was in the hospital, and then FBI, Sheriff's Dept. etc piled in. It sounds like no one knew where this guy was for awhile. Also was told the shooter was paralyzed. Again, not sure of the source, but he claimed to be the BIL of one of the hosptial docs, and I live in the area so it is possible.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:50 PM
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35. paralyzed?
well, that's not surprising...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:50 PM
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36. paralyzed?
well, that's not surprising...
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:51 PM
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37. That's what I was told...we will see.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:54 PM
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38. I'm gonna go to the store for Reynolds Wrap -
see ya later!
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