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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:02 PM
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The American Family Association tries to kickstart the War On the War On Christmas
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 01:04 PM by marmar
an AFA "Action" Alert: :freak:



First Battle of the 2009 Christmas Culture War is here
Michigan's Macomb County Road Commission orders removal of privately maintained Nativity scene at crossroads of city

October 27, 2009


Ask the Macomb County Road Commission to rescind their order removing a privately maintained Nativity scene set at the crossroads of the city. The Christmas culture wars for 2009 have begun and ground zero is the Detroit suburb of Warren, which for 63 years has hosted a privately maintained Nativity scene set at the crossroads of the city.

The Nativity display had been maintained by Warren city resident John Satawa and his family for most of the municipality's history until the Macomb County Road Commission this year ordered the display removed because they say it "clearly displays a religious message" in violation of the "separation of church and state."

The Road Commission informed Satawa of its decision upon receiving a letter in December 2008 from the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which purported to act on behalf of a complainant in the city of 134,000 residents, saying the display violated the Constitution. (See letter here)

The Thomas Moore Law Center has filed a lawsuit on behalf of Stawa against the Road Commission. Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Law Center, said that militant atheists attempt to do through the courts what the Taliban by force had done to Afghanistan: remove all the symbols of the country's national heritage.

The Nativity dates from 1945, just five years after the incorporation of the Village of Warren, which then boasted 582 inhabitants.


http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147487535


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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:03 PM
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1. Bring it on!!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:04 PM
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2. Us liberals can relax on the war on Christmas this year
The Bush depression will do all the work we need to be done on the consumer holiday.

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:05 PM
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3. They are starting late this year
last year I think it was a Labor Day kickoff.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:07 PM
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4. My take as an Atheist is that there's really no issue here
Its privately maintained, thus, I have no problem with it. Why give the Talibabtists ammunition in their continued attempts to martyr themsevles?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:08 PM
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5. I think perhaps because this an AFA-originated story, some facts are missing....
nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:13 PM
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6. Good point
Thou shalt not spin a story was, after all, not one of the ten commandements.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:49 PM
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11. I believe it was on public land.
They can put the display on their own property, and no one would care.

They HAVE to use public land to make this an issue.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 02:12 PM
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12. Meh, still doesn't get me very riled up even if it used public land
I understand what you're saying though. This year its a nativity scene on public land, next year it's a 40 foot statue of Jesus. Give em an inch...

I do feel, though, that it's this sort of busy-body atheism that gives the whole thing a bad rap. The talibaptists and other whack-a-fundies can't wait to grab a box of nails and a hammer and bang themselves to the nearest cross and shout about how they're being persecuted (despite the fact that 80+% of the people in the US claim to be Christians of one flavor or another). I suspect that the AFA would have found something to rally a call to arms around though, no matter what.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:17 PM
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7. Bring 'em on...I've been practicing for weeks!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:23 PM
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8. Macomb county? No surprise there. n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:27 PM
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9. If it's not his land, it's not his call what is displayed there.
End of story.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:37 PM
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10. I oppose all those doves who want to leave Christmas and bring the troops home
If we don't fight Christmas now we'll have to fight it in July. I think we need to send 40,000 additional troops to Christmas right now. It's no time to dither, we need to show strength and turn Christmas into a parking lot.

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb christmas......"
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 03:11 PM
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13. Oh, who really wants to engage on a war on Xmas?
I mean, why even bother to target the Yule Holidays?

Just let the Winter Solstice Celebration occur in peace.

;-)
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